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Re: Quickie F 55 rebuild

Postby Burgerman » 12 Oct 2017, 21:41

My BM3 8.5 mph sunrise groove motors do 221 on 22V if that helps!

They also do 442rpm on 45V ans measured on my bench.
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Re: Quickie F 55 rebuild

Postby elryko1992 » 12 Oct 2017, 21:49

Nice motors, but i don't found anywhere 8.5mph, and i think is very expensive. My Typhoon 2 works very good and nice :thumbup: 12km/h 500W. Its a strong chair. I want to modified my wheels like your Storm 4 Burgerman. 110/80-8 , its good? you have a Typhoon? i see a photos with a wheel you modified?
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Re: Quickie F 55 rebuild

Postby Burgerman » 13 Oct 2017, 09:39

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=6151

You mean like this?
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Re: Quickie F 55 rebuild

Postby elryko1992 » 13 Oct 2017, 11:43

Yes John, like this. 110/80-8 i buy the tyre from Heidenau K75 because i don't found the Kitaco Duro, but is the same no? and i buy two tube with valve 90 grade, 3.50/4.00-8. And i make the spacer form steel 40mm to a factory, and i buy the bolt screws 65mm steel, but now i need to make the circle from wheels. Thats is hard for me because i can't do my self.
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Re: Quickie F 55 rebuild

Postby Burgerman » 13 Oct 2017, 13:13

You need to do some measuring. The mesurements I used were for the chair I had. I have 2 more sets of brushless here.

They vary. Some have the ridge on the motor bell closer to the inside, or outside. Some have the wheel outer wider than others.

So you may end up with the rim too wide. Try to aim for a 3 inch wide rim for the 110 tyres. And a 3.25 for the 120 tyres. Thats between the inside edges. Because Heidenau K75 is slightly narrower and doesent seem to like wider rims as much as the Duro tyres. Tyre sizes are nominal... You are trying to end up wuth the rim, 6mm narrower than the tyre once fitted and inflated. Or the wheel will hit things.
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Re: Quickie F 55 rebuild

Postby elryko1992 » 13 Oct 2017, 13:30

I understand but now i buy this tyre and i will try with this to see how works. I will make some photos when i do the wheels to see. Now i wait a friend to help me to make the circle like yours.
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Re: Quickie F 55 rebuild

Postby Burgerman » 13 Oct 2017, 13:35

Good, just trying to warn you not to make it too wide! Test with just spacers, and tube at low pressure.
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Re: Quickie F 55 rebuild

Postby elryko1992 » 13 Oct 2017, 13:48

ok thanks! :thumbup:
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Re: Quickie F 55 rebuild

Postby avonf55 » 14 Oct 2017, 20:14

Burgerman wrote:http://www.amt-schmid.com/en/products/right_angled_drives/srg_06/srg_06.php

You can find them where they are made. But they will not sell to end users in small numbers. They sell to the likes of sunrise, or whoever and manufacture mostly to order in batches to the spec required. So you will need to find a sunrise dealer.


Thank you Burgerman, I'll get my dealer to look in that direction. Also found a ring smart battery charger pro 824 yesterday, which may solve my charging problem.
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Re: Quickie F 55 rebuild

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Re: Quickie F 55 rebuild

Postby elryko1992 » 14 Oct 2017, 21:14

but this si slow no? is the same i have now on my Puma 40 0.25kw 6.0km no? 0.35kw i think is good? i have VR2 90ah.
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Re: Quickie F 55 rebuild

Postby Burgerman » 14 Oct 2017, 21:21

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ALEX-MOTORS-G ... 0009.m1982

Well theres these?

A new set will cost more than a full used chair. So your choice!
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Re: Quickie F 55 rebuild

Postby avonf55 » 16 Oct 2017, 12:58

Burgerman wrote:http://www.amt-schmid.com/en/products/right_angled_drives/srg_06/srg_06.php

You can find them where they are made. But they will not sell to end users in small numbers. They sell to the likes of sunrise, or whoever and manufacture mostly to order in batches to the spec required. So you will need to find a sunrise dealer.


Burgerman, please can I just check that the above was directed at me and not somebody else. Would these be a direct swap for the F55s mmotors? and, just out of interest, what motors have you used on the BM3?
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Re: Quickie F 55 rebuild

Postby Burgerman » 16 Oct 2017, 13:00

Totally different. But similar looking. May fit easily, but life never works that way so may need some modification.
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Re: Quickie F 55 rebuild

Postby avonf55 » 16 Oct 2017, 13:11

Okay, so is there an OEM version out there somewhere that would be a direct replacement for the F55s?
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Re: Quickie F 55 rebuild

Postby Burgerman » 16 Oct 2017, 14:11

Yes, possibly something very similar, previously linked. EMD motors were taken over by https://www.parvalux.com/

But that will cost as much as a newer better more modern chair on ebay.
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Re: Quickie F 55 rebuild

Postby ex-Gooserider » Yesterday, 02:29

On the 'technical scale' I would put the conversion to lithium as a moderate level task, and doing a Roboteq as much higher level knowledge requirement...

The lithium conversion requires a basic knowledge of electricity, and moderate skills in wiring and mechanical assembly, but is mostly a question of doing a straightforward, lengthy but fairly simple building sequence.

The major concern is that it has to be done RIGHT or there is a considerable potential for hazardous sparks and flame, since you are dealing with live components that don't give a lot of room for mistakes...

However if you read the relevant threads, it isn't that bad - if Expresso czy can figure it out, you should be able to as well...

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avonf55 wrote:That kind of answers the question, why not fit lithium? Because you need to be technical. As for knowing what I need in the way of motors, a straight replacement for the F55s factory fitted motors, will that not be enough?

On Burgermans' advice, I fitted the largest batteries to fit the chair, 73ah MK batteries, but for reasons I still can't fathom, 2 miles is about as much as I can get out of them and I'm not exactly obese, a little overweight, but not obese.
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