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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby gcebiker » 21 Oct 2015, 14:51

Ive just ordered one of the (10 pack), from KVN's link....fingers crossed they work ..

It will take a month for them to get to me before i can try them out.
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby gwnys » 21 Oct 2015, 19:10

gcebiker wrote:Ive just ordered one of the (10 pack), from KVN's link....fingers crossed they work ..

It will take a month for them to get to me before i can try them out.



Well if mine ever does come in, its been 4 hours away for 2 days and tomorrow will make 3, I intend to at least give it a try. Others have already failed on this same version as pointed out, so I don't hold much hope. But what knowledge I don't yet have I make up for with persistence. Besides, I don't have anything else to do and may as well just give it a try. Likely it'll just be a $22 hunk of uselessness. :( :geek:

When yours come in from the far east I would thankfully wish to buy one of yours once you can verify that they do work.
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby gcebiker » 22 Oct 2015, 10:40

Ebay seller did not have stock (despite listing being active), order has been canceled and refunded.
Its probally just the .dll file that's messing things up.

As Goloens dll was for the QM.

If you got a disk with the USB-CAN adapter it may have the required software on it.
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Re: Q LOGIC - Quantum 1650 programming

Postby gcebiker » 22 Oct 2015, 10:56

SouthmanGA wrote:I'm needing to get this chair sped up, and I've read up on Quantum chairs. I've tried using a dealer programmer, but when I got to the setting(s), the +/- wouldn't allow the # to move. It is my guess it is locked? I also saw the instructions on how to build the programming interface, buy that usb and build a cable, but it's a little above my current capabilities. I called Quantumrehab, but as folks have said, they're about as useful and forthcoming with any help as an worn-out wheelchair tire.

Am I just screwed in my hopes of speeding this thing up for use in power soccer? I know it's not an optimum chair to use, but it is twice the size of an average StrikeForce chair. lol


I found the bit in the manual that outlines why a setting cant be changed twice.
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Easy fix as it turns out.
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby pitboss » 02 Nov 2015, 15:13

There is an E-bay listing for 30 QM can usb adaptors for 1399.80 dollars.If you go to the sellers store they have individuals for 65.98 with free shipping.Sellers store is hotsale-eshop
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby kvn » 03 Nov 2015, 04:26

pitboss wrote:There is an E-bay listing for 30 QM can usb adaptors for 1399.80 dollars.If you go to the sellers store they have individuals for 65.98 with free shipping.Sellers store is hotsale-eshop


The $65.98 unit sold by hotsale-eshop is a USB-CAN B1 versus the A1+ model that is sought after. Not sure if it will work as I don't know the difference.

A few posts back gcebiker asked about the qhdlm.cn drivers. Link is http://115.28.16.44:81/file/CAN4421.rar

I tried the drivers from this rar but didn't have any luck. I might just be unlucky and am very interesting in seeing if gwnys has any success. Good luck!
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby gwnys » 03 Nov 2015, 05:32

spent hours with the one I bought, no luck.

Tried two computers, different drivers, different OS's. nothing. Many different errors or just hung during startup, slave, mater, auto detect. Tried different ports. Tried everything I could think of. Then tried again. Did this with a laptop and one of the main Pc's.

No luck. Oh well.
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby gwnys » 05 Nov 2015, 00:00

Had service call yesterday, and some expert skills from them worked out my programming problems. They were bad, the way they had set them at the issuing org were all messed up. Still, I'd like to be able to tweak it myself now that it works like it should. But I am much happier.
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby SK45 » 07 Nov 2015, 09:59

Got the qhdlm model to work. The dll for this unit is called LM_USB.dll . Change this name to QM_USB.dll and follow original instructions. Mine then finally connected to Q6 Edge wheelchair control and read all the paremeters ok.
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby woodygb » 07 Nov 2015, 10:22

Excellent work!.

Can you please upload that file to this thread.
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby SK45 » 08 Nov 2015, 03:41

The link I used for the qhdlm software package is http://115.28.16.44:81/file/CAN4421.rar

This package is about 17meg. However, only one dll is needed for things to work, LM_USB.dll. It is about 600KB. I have uploaded this file.

What you need to do is change the name of this file to QM_USB.dll, and use this one as in the original instructions.

Thankyou to you guys for having this thread. Hopefully we will end up with a usable and responsive wheelchair. Next week I will make up some reliable cables and connections thanks to suggestions from this thread. What I am using now was just to test things and had to be held in place by hand.
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby SK45 » 08 Nov 2015, 03:50

Sorry, tried to upload the dll but get message that extension dll is not allowed.
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby Burgerman » 08 Nov 2015, 10:25

Rename it to .zip
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby woodygb » 08 Nov 2015, 10:31

Unfortunately it's just a bit too big to upload @ 265kb.
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby woodygb » 08 Nov 2015, 10:47

QHDLM USB_Can specific LM_USB.dll

http://1drv.ms/1MEKONx

Download and rename QM_USB.dll
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby woodygb » 08 Nov 2015, 19:19

Got the qhdlm model to work. The dll for this unit is called LM_USB.dll . Change this name to QM_USB.dll and follow original instructions. Mine then finally connected to Q6 Edge wheelchair control and read all the paremeters ok.


If you have the qhdlm model A1 CAN_USB ...see pic.
qhdlm.jpg
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You require the following .

LM_USB.rar
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Download and rename it QM_USB.dll.
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby gwnys » 03 Dec 2015, 03:06

WHOOPEEE!

I Just got mine to work! Thanks for that last driver, that's what did it for me. Now my Rival is tweaked even better. And If I find something needs a bit more adjustment I can do it myself and at my own convenience.

Thanks to everyone who had a hand in working this out.

By the way, I did this on a Windows 10 64 bit computer. The desktop kept resetting and restarting the "finding new devices" part of load-up. I didn't get to far Into thinking that over and first tried the laptop and it worked beautifully. Laptop is my preferred computer anyways since its portable and can be wherever the wheelchair is.

Whoopee! Oh I said that already, oh well it was worth saying twice! :D
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby Burgerman » 03 Dec 2015, 10:34

Is this OEM and for a pride quantum chair? With Q-logic? (The one that Mark @ wheelchairjunkie claimed doesent exist?) You used the Curtis tool?

Or a UK one with PG Drives controller?
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby gwnys » 03 Dec 2015, 10:45

Quantum Rival, Q-Logic 2, OEM Curtis software, and the usb-can device I posted about on an earlier post in this topic.

Link to the one I bought:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/281575028208?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT

Had the Curtis software set for OEM, Slave Mode to the verified port for the usb can adapter. Windows 10 64 bit. Set it all up as per this topic, including the folder update into the "global" folder to fix all the question marks on the topics/folders that appeared first time around.
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby Burgerman » 03 Dec 2015, 11:00

So as I thought at the time - it was bull.

When Mark claimed that no OEM tools existed for q-logic or version 2, and that everything was manufacturered and developed by his own company in house, and that their engineers literally re-coded the firmware so that OEM level programming software wasnt needed and didnt exist, it was a lie. Which I did say must be the case at the time.

So even now then they must just be getting curtis to make their stuff for them, or their own curtis programming tools wouldnt work. With pride its always marketing and bullshit.
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby gwnys » 03 Dec 2015, 11:12

Well, I'm not sure on all that and certainly don't want to get between you and Mark. I will say that Mark has helped me immensely and continues to support me.

All I know is following your directions here in this topic I was able to modify my settings so the chair performs so much better! But a person could really mess up their chair if they weren't careful. And make a copy of the original programming and keep it safe in an isolated folder in case you ever need to go back to it. But I am so much happier now.

Thanks for your help!

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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby Burgerman » 03 Dec 2015, 11:32

No worries. Its not personal. I neither like or dislike him personally and I think he is genuine. Or was originally.
Its the misinformation that he keeps handing out on purpose that winds me up.

Its prides official line and their marketing and other bull. He claims to serve his community above all else, and then lies, and denies theres a way to get one of his pride chairs to steer properly! His site is really about marketing pride as good guys out to help. Hence the handing out of some free parts in public etc.

A pride chair can be made to steer properly like any other if you can get your hands on the "non existant" tools. You have the only one! Try posting what you have achieved over there, inc where the info came from, and see what happens! :lol: All you will get is either ignored, or negative posts from him or his community. They will tell you that their tech reprogrammed it and its all fine. They plainly dont get that things can be better.
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby Burgerman » 22 Jul 2016, 08:06

Do curtis actually make a controller joystick pod that looks the same as the pride Qlogic or qlogic2 one? Thought I saw an image of one about 6 month ago here. But cant find it.
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby woodygb » 22 Jul 2016, 12:16

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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby Burgerman » 22 Jul 2016, 14:59

Thanks.

http://www.curtisag.ch/en/unsere-fachgebiete/ Even more enlightening. Marks claims of in house quantum development where he/pride add stuff for us like Bluetooth etc to 'truly serve the end user' seems to be done by, err not them!
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby rover220 » 22 Jul 2016, 15:48

the handheld and 1314 pc programmer i have for ottobock (curtis) worked fine last time i tried on pride/quantum stuff.
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby Burgerman » 22 Jul 2016, 16:25

Well that would be expected too I suppose.
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby Burgerman » 25 Jul 2016, 11:48

http://www.wheelchairjunkie.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=72226 Regarding battery gauges, we remain dedicated to providing the most accurate possible in relation to battery state.


By which he means Curtis Instruments remain 'dedicated'...

Our current battery icon isn't the most descriptive, but it does drop in 1% increments. By contrast, the current PG R-Net drops in 10% increments, meaning it shows a totally full charge till you're 10% down, then it doesn't drop again till 20% down, and so on. This does give the perception of security, but not true accuracy in real time.


By 'our' he means Curtis Instruments. And non of them are remotely accurate and never can be.

By contrast, we run in 1% increments and are moving from our current icon back to our industry-first numerical gauge.


He means Curtis Instruments have an option.

When you drive from your bedroom to your kitchen in the morning, will you see it drop promptly from 100% to 99%? Absolutely -- that's how battery voltage works. However, over the entire range, you'll know a far more precise gauge of charge. (Remember, though, that based on ever-changing battery chemistry, no gauge is absolutely accurate in real time.)


All incorrect! Apart from the not accurate part! They are nowhere close to accurate and at best a very rough guide.

So, yest we are coming out with a new numerical gauge version. Thank you.


He means CURTIS are! If in fact its not already an option on the OEM programmer and just needs to be enabled. Could be, I have not looked.
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Re: Q LOGIC PROGRAMMING INTERFACE

Postby enlight22 » 01 Aug 2016, 00:39

ive been searching for 2 days and have found no less than 7 versions of software none of which work. i think six of them are 2 new, and the setup.exe posted at the beginning of the cable thread is too old? says it cant run on 64 bit? can someone send me plz the good version that works. pg vsi i think? thanks
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