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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby LROBBINS » 18 Feb 2016, 19:27

Note that this is just the adapter that goes between the "programming plug" of a DX programming cable (i.e. RS232) and those controllers/modules that use the charging port for programming. You still need a dongle and USB to serial adapter if your computer doesn't have an RS232 port. Ciao, Lenny
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby anubis801 » 18 Feb 2016, 20:55

This is correct! You must have the Security dongle to program your controller.
Without the security dongle to unlock/license the "original" Wizard software program, you can only read the status report from your controller with this circuit.
In theory the dongle is just a license key which the software looks for through a software hardware driver.

Well, that is if you want to keep it legal :roll:
Not really a problem for Russia and China :twisted:
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby anubis801 » 09 Mar 2016, 16:17

Finished!
I got 10 PCB's left over, if anyone is interested in a bare PCB send me a PM.
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby woodygb » 22 Mar 2016, 12:58

Communication success with RHINO controller. ....NO dongle ..NO DWIZ-ADAPT ...NO board ...comms via cheap CH340 chip USB -SERIAL Adapter

e.g. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-USB2-0-TO ... SwuAVWx9ih

This adapter MUST use a win chip head CH340/341 or HL340 NOT a Prolific chip.

You will see 340 embossed on the RS232 end of the cable.
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby terry2 » 22 Mar 2016, 15:17

Fantastic news :)
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby woodygb » 22 Mar 2016, 15:34

NOTE:- The Rhino scooter controller.... unlike wheelchair controllers/joysticks ....doesn't need the DWIZ-ADAPT as it has one built in to it.

I'll probably ask you to test two options on the wheelchair version...one will be using your DWIZ-ADAPT and the above Rhino solution...the other a guess at what the signal mode is that is coming via the charging port and without the DWIZ-ADAPT.
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby terry2 » 22 Mar 2016, 15:36

woodygb wrote:NOTE:- The Rhino scooter controller.... unlike wheelchair controllers/joysticks ....doesn't need the DWIZ-ADAPT as it has one built in to it.

I'll probably ask you to test two options on the wheelchair version.



I'm all for testing :D

Was your OS win 98 or win 7?
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby woodygb » 22 Mar 2016, 15:40

WIN 10 64 bit.
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby terry2 » 22 Mar 2016, 15:41

Thanks Woody :)
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby LROBBINS » 22 Mar 2016, 17:04

Note that some Dynamic systems do need the DWIZ-ADAPT and some do not. The one Rachi used to have on her chair - the DX-SCR = SpecialtyControlsRemote had a separate mini-DIN style programming port connected by a straight through cable to a DB9 (RS232) plug. Of course, one still needs a USB to serial adapter if your computer doesn't have an old-fashioned COM port, so I'm glad you've found one that works well. I kept a clunky old Toshiba laptop just to use for the Wizard. Wonder if the FTDI USB to RS232 adapter I use with the Roboteq would also work?
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby woodygb » 22 Mar 2016, 17:14

Give it whirl Lenny it can't harm.
dynamic hirose interface rhino.jpg


BTW ..Terry has a DWIZ-ADAPT ....which he has currently lent me ...perhaps in a week or 2 we can find a simple solution to the DWIZ-ADAPT.

P.S. Does anyone know the EXACT designation of the Hirose plug/socket?
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby LROBBINS » 22 Mar 2016, 17:18

Can't. No longer have a DX system installed, and I've lent my (parallel) OEM Dongle and (RS232) programming cable to Irving. I don't know if he's intending to use a computer with a com port, or has to use a USB-RS232 adapter. Ciao, Lenny
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby terry2 » 31 Mar 2016, 15:51

The cable with the dwiz is working on my Puma 40 :D
Nice one woody.

I see my speed is set too 90%! will I have more SPEED if I crank it to 100% :D
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby Burgerman » 31 Mar 2016, 16:15

Why bother with 90?
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby rover220 » 31 Mar 2016, 17:07

terry2 wrote:The cable with the dwiz is working on my Puma 40 :D
Nice one woody.

I see my speed is set too 90%! will I have more SPEED if I crank it to 100% :D


Do you have a hasp key to enable you to make any changes?
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby terry2 » 31 Mar 2016, 17:08

Burgerman wrote:Why bother with 90?



That was my thinking. I don't think 10% will make much difference. My batteries will be install tomoz.
So I will see after charging.

I also noticed there are 5 profiles to play with. My chair only shows 4?
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby rover220 » 31 Mar 2016, 17:15

terry2 wrote:
Burgerman wrote:Why bother with 90?



That was my thinking. I don't think 10% will make much difference. My batteries will be install tomoz.
So I will see after charging.

I also noticed there are 5 profiles to play with. My chair only shows 4?


Look in the joystick options and you'll see the max number of drive profiles. Change that to 5 and you'll have 5 available.
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby terry2 » 31 Mar 2016, 17:16

rover220 wrote:
terry2 wrote:
Burgerman wrote:Why bother with 90?



That was my thinking. I don't think 10% will make much difference. My batteries will be install tomoz.
So I will see after charging.

I also noticed there are 5 profiles to play with. My chair only shows 4?


Look in the joystick options and you'll see the max number of drive profiles. Change that to 5 and you'll have 5 available.



Nice bit of info there. Thank you so much ;)

I'll try and find a manual on it be for messing
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby rover220 » 31 Mar 2016, 17:20

Do you have the hasp key/dongle?
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby terry2 » 31 Mar 2016, 17:27

rover220 wrote:Do you have the hasp key/dongle?


No woody done his wizardry on my dwiz and a serial cable.
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby Burgerman » 31 Mar 2016, 17:42

Software is a "special" version... No dongle required.
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby woodygb » 31 Mar 2016, 21:11

rover220 wrote:Do you have the hasp key/dongle?

Dongle less program.
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby DAIWTHOMAS » 10 Apr 2016, 08:15

I Currently own the Wizard software and a Hasp Dongle which gives me 2 options in the software being Standard and Lite. Has anyone got any ideas as to how much the OEM Hasp is and where could I get it from. The software is very limited otherwise as I am currently trying to alter motor compensation on a 110amp rhino. Many thanks
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby gcebiker » 19 Apr 2016, 12:51

anubis801 wrote:Finished!
I got 10 PCB's left over, if anyone is interested in a bare PCB send me a PM.

Anubis PMing you, tho i have the factory dongle its always good to have a spare.
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby woodygb » 19 Apr 2016, 12:56

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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby gcebiker » 19 Apr 2016, 13:26

I've now ordered 10, every week i meet wheelies like myself frustrated as hell with the mentality of 'Able Bodied'...yet mentally locked in social welfare people.

It will be good to offer them an alternative, i am limited in my ability to travel to their home and them to travel to mine with the big power chair.

This device is a god send.
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby woodygb » 19 Apr 2016, 13:42

The voltage output at the signal pin is 9.8v according to my meter ... this is a Serial level voltage not TTL.

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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby woodygb » 19 Apr 2016, 14:00

I've previously been unable to take any measurements of voltages or trial the board until a board member kindly lent me a R-series Dynamic controller ...which arrived on the 15th of this month.

The voltage output at the signal pin is 9.8v according to my meter ... this is a Serial level voltage not TTL.
...Meaning the data pin of the controller.
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby anubis801 » 19 Apr 2016, 15:11

woodygb wrote:The voltage output at the signal pin is 9.8v according to my meter ... this is a Serial level voltage not TTL.

wiz rs232 ttl.jpg



It may look like a RS-232 serial but it's not RS-232 standard.
It is Serial comunication alright but neither RS-232 nor TTL logic levels!
It's more like TTL-serial with CMOS voltage levels.

Logic level 0 = 1-2V / logic 1 level = 10V while the RS-232 levels are Logic 0 = 9 to 12V and Logic 1 = -9 to -12V (negative voltage)
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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

Postby gcebiker » 20 Apr 2016, 08:48

I was also able to get the Shark Power Module to respond to an Arduino serial stream.
Arduino TX to the Middle pin, Ground to Ground on the Arduino.

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void setup() {
  Serial.begin(9600);
  delay(300);
}

void loop() {
  {
    Serial.write(248);
    Serial.write(134);
 
  delay(11);

 
    Serial.write(254);
    Serial.write(248);
    Serial.write(230);
    Serial.write(128);
    Serial.write(152);
    Serial.write(128);
  }
delay(229);
}


Writing that code to the middle pin
- Base was responding that a Hand Held Programmer was connected (Saleae Logic Analyzer data capture on RS485 data lines).
- Led strobe was on also indicating Programmer connected

Excerpt from the manual - note that here they are talking specifically about the Data line between the Joystick and power base but it also is seen to hold true for the Pin 3 which it would seem is not very fussy about how high the signal goes.
The SBL wire is pulled up to 5V with a 270 ohm resistor, through a diode. This is the recessive state and it represents a 1. In the
dominant state, the SBL wire is pulled down to 0V, and this represents a 0. Note that the transmitting circuit will not achieve 0V;
1V is more likely.
Of course, the recessive and dominant states are simultaneous on both wires.
To summarise:
The recessive state is typically represented by SBH = 0V, SBL = 5V. The recessive noise margin is 5V, and impedance
(oversimplified) is 135 ohms.
The dominant state is typically represented by SBH = 4V, SBL = 1V. The dominant noise margin is 3V, and impedance
(oversimplified) is 15 ohms.
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