PINNED - Info on PROGRAMMING PGDT and others

[farmer]

I have a Jazzy 1120 that I am using while I work on my Permobil m300 I made a cable for the Jazzy which has a Pride plus joystick control combined and I need the software to program it can someone point me to were I can find it.

[farmer]

Thanks

[JohnFletcher]

Can you post some pics of the controller ?

...could it be the wrong cable ?

Unfortunately It's behind the batteries, so that may take some time.
Reading the manual, it looks likely that my chair is R-net so I need a dongle.
Hi ho...

[DaveTheRave]

Hi guys, I’m new to the world of power chairs. Very grateful to this forum, it has helped me get this far quickly. Please forgive me for a long first post, in which I tried to put pctures but failed.
A work colleague has a Quickie powered chair with a VR2 JSM controller (D51269.01). All is fine, but we are located some way from the nearest repair centre and having him out of action due to a fault on the chair is not acceptable. A second chair was bought second hand as a spare, the chairs match but the second has a VR2 JSM-A-L controller (D51269.02). This has been ‘adjusted’ and the driving control is not right. Somewhere the settings are off and cause some unexpected reversals of direction.
Your forum was found and an attempt at building a usb to serial lead made, but this failed. At this point I was called upon to get things working.
I took the lead we had, read up many pages from this site, and tried connecting. Comms inactive. Then got out some test kit. An oscilloscope showed up a problem
(Scope36b)
This trace shows the signal going to the chair, followed by the chair’s response. Sadly the reply is too small for the RX circuit to consider it a proper signal, so it is ignored. I tried quite a few options to fix this, but nothing worked. So as it was 5 o’clock I went home to think about it.
Next morning I arrived with great plans to throw some serious electronics at the communication problem, but over the first coffee of the day I read some more pages from the forum. I found this picture posted by DSmidget
(Programmer cable)
This is my kind of information, it tells me stories and makes life so much simpler. So I got building and in a couple of hours and a couple of tries had this,
(interface)
It uses the biasing/matching circuit from the interface pictured above, and amplifies the return signal to give the RX circuit a chance. The joy when the programming software went over to comms active and then read the settings from the chair; this caused an outbreak of happy dance. The circuit may be robust enough to work with almost any USB to serial convertor that has a 5v line. However I have only tested with 2 types here and they both work, one is a FDTI and the other a cheap 3 wire device which I had to break open to get at the 5v. Neither worked with just a diode, or with the addition of a pull up resistor.
I copied the settings file from the chair that works well and, after saving a copy of the poor settings, loaded it into the second chair. Brilliant, the second chair now drives just like the first. But we have lost the use of the actuators that control the seat tilt. Humphf.
So as we only have the service version of software, we cannot adjust parameters on the chairs to get the second controller to drive nicely and control the seat tilt. I have printed out the settings from both chairs and can see where the setups differ, it would be great to be able to get full function of the second controller.
Anyone care to drop me the full software?

[woodygb]

I currently recommend this specific FTDI lead that supports +3.3V UART signals AND has a 5v power output.

TTL-232R-3V3-WE Version 1 cable. Supports +3.3V UART signalling and +5V/75mA power output

The simple addition of a diode and resistor is all that is required with this lead.

[gcebiker]

enlight22 this is the thread with the information for PG Drives Technology - PGDT

Forum members are very helpful here but we need some small but important details - pictures or model number of the actual Power Module.
I upload my pictures to my facebook account and then link the picture here, that is one way to stick a picture inside one of these threads.


With specific information, we can give you more accurate answers. I have to go to work soon but will check back soon, seems like we may be in the same time zone (or you are still awake trying to nut out the trouble with your chair).

[peterik]

what program be used for the power module

[peterik]

cable may be? electric wheelchair to RS232 male

[woodygb]

what program be used for the power module

No idea what the power module is ...need a BIGGER picture .

Any name or numbers on module?

[Burgerman]

Looks like an ancient Penny and Giles one that used to be used on an arm with integral joystick relocated with external joystick. I doubt it can be reprogrammed. All old analog design. Could be wrong...

One of these with external joystick... https://cdnqs4p.quicksearch4.com/i/aDov ... 8800005007

??

[woodygb]

This perhaps PG8 ?.
http://i.ebayimg.com/images/a/T2eC16Z,!)cE9s4PudhcBQuR+VVjVg~~/s-l1600.jpg

[gcebiker]

Or the EJ MX, i think we are on the right track, the casing looks to be a match.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Everest-Jenning ... 0674657590

Is this Dynamic software they are using ?

[gcebiker]

EJ Programmer ?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Everest-Jenning ... 0635212125

[peterik]

Where do I buy cable?

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joystick

[peterik]

Where do I buy cable?

[woodygb]

No idea...sorry

[peterik]

cable may be? electric wheelchair to RS232 male

To connect a programming RS232 module to power the joystick flashes and not a Wheelchair

[gcebiker]

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Everest-Jenning ... 0635212125

That is as close as i could find....and i DONT know what i am talking about, i have no idea about your chair, sorry.

[peterik]

eletrického my chair, I would need about one programmer kale where we find him:
http://kisss-by-meyra.de/myoIS/dokuweb/ ... 476181.pdf

[Burgerman]

Just found an old parallel port dongle for Dynamic. Will this still work with the latest stuff today?

I realise I will need some way of connecting it to a machine with no parallel port... Is there one? Is it this easy? What about connecting to the chair (DX2 for eg).

[woodygb]

Could you please post a pic .

[Burgerman]

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[Burgerman]

Needs a clean!

Found in a box of old stuff. But from what I remember its an old OEM dongle.

[Burgerman]

http://dongleduplicate.nsys.by/

[LROBBINS]

Even an old dongle will still work. You also will need the appropriate programming cable to either mate to the separate programming port on some controllers, or with an adapter, to the charger port on some others. It can be RS232 or, with another adapter, USB. Probably the easiest way to go is to find an old laptop with RS232 and Centronics ports. Used just for Dynamic software, even old, and crappy, Windows OS will be fine.

[Burgerman]

Maybe. But old laptops offend my sensibilities! I want to make it work from my current laptop or PC. If need be I can add a card with parallel port.

[gcebiker]

This will give you the output, USB to parallel https://www.jaycar.com.au/usb-to-parall ... e/p/XC4847

[gcebiker]

Oh...its just the key, you dont even need that any more

[Burgerman]

Tell me what I need for the latest brushless Dynamic powerchair to get OEM level!
And or what is the latest Wizard version. And why don't I need a key?

Here: https://dynamiccontrols.com/en/download ... -downloads

What else do I need, and what connectors? To program this? http://www.invacare.co.uk/sites/uk/file ... 8b45b3.pdf

[woodygb]

The joystick appears to be a ACS2 ...
This pdf suggests you that need a DWIZ-ADAPT.

The XLR programming / charger socket is located at the front of the ACS2. To use this
socket with the HHP or the PC-Wizard programming cable, a DWIZ-ADAPT adapter
plug is needed.

I'll be happy to lend you one should you require it.

https://dynamiccontrols.com/en/download ... anual/file