Quickie Q500H

[Burgerman]

You mean discontinued? Not as far as I know.

Sunrise UK have not anounced any cancelation of any of the Q chairs. Only the discontinuaton of a ERGO seating option.
The 500R 500H 500M 500F are all relatively new chairs. Within the last few years.
They are still adding to this.
Theres also a 50R folding portable lthium "toy" chair.
A small footprint 100R.
A 200R with fatter wheels and tyres.
Theres a Q300 Q400 and also the Q700 (F M R drives) that I have too. The only one that is changed is the 700 R F and M which is no longer available as "ergo" seating version since since they can do the same thing using the normal sedeo pro seating options and the CXSM R-net module.

[Burgerman]

Most of the Q chairs: https://www.sunrisemedical.eu/powered-w ... heelchairs
And the hybrid: https://www.sunrisemedical.eu/powered-w ... -sedeo-pro

And there are 10A charger, 80Ah and 8mph options, centre power footrest, lift, tilt, recline, and 120A R-Net with CJSM2 options and anything with 6mph or faster has lights indicators and hazards regardless if you want it or not! The law...
https://www.sunrisedice.com/asset-bank/ ... /47893.pdf retail prices, and options but its in euros. Same as dollars pretty much.

[nld3]

"Q500 H Power Wheelchair
A new generation of power wheelchair

The QUICKIE Q500 H brings you a unique blend of rear-wheel drive and mid-wheel drive technology, delivering impressive outdoor performance coupled with indoor maneuverability. Bringing you the best of both worlds and exceptional comfort.

This product has been discontinued and is no longer available to order."

https://www.sunrisemedical.com/power-wheelchairs/quickie/rear-wheel-drive/q500-h

[Burgerman]

Only in the US. Its not "discontinued" its just not being marketed in the US.

Again they are screwing with you guys. No Rear OR Hybrid there?
Why? Beats me. I would get the front drive and swap the seat around.

H https://www.sunrisemedical.eu/powered-w ... -sedeo-pro
R https://www.sunrisemedical.eu/powered-w ... -sedeo-pro
F https://www.sunrisemedical.eu/powered-w ... -sedeo-pro
M https://www.sunrisemedical.eu/powered-w ... -sedeo-pro

And the 700 ones too.

[daveonwheels]

unless you pay out of pocket,rear drive chairs are mostly not available thru insurance in the usa.there are some exceptions, but mostly no

[Burgerman]

That much seems ovbious. But the real question is why? The H isnt even rear drive though.

[daveonwheels]

cvorporate greed and lack of sense in the disability [aka medicaid/medicare] establishment.they are not wheelchair users

[Burgerman]

Corporate greed? That woud ensure you had every possible variation, and option available so that you sell more chairs than your opposition.

As happens here where we BUY chairs from a dealer with £££. Thats free market capitalist "greed" ensuring that we get the best choices and the best prices as well as the best service.

That happens because many peope here that want a decent chair cannot get one from the NHS directly. So its a case of you choosing what you want £££.

In the US you have free markets in regards most things, sofa, car, air conditioner, holidays, food. So great choice, full shelves, good service, and competitive prices. But no free market on over regulated medical stuff. Your medical care system is as rediculously over regulated and over controlled as ours is but in a dfferent way.

[daveonwheels]

from my dme supplier only pride-quantum chairs can be had in rear drive. no quickies or bounders. so i was forced to accept a F3 that i did not really want. i do not use it as my main chair,i use a titanium manual chair

[Burgerman]

from my dme supplier only pride-quantum chairs can be had in rear drive.

But those fail my short list of essentials.
No. 1 on the list in fact. Its impossible for me as an end user to make the damned things steer properly as no access to OEM programming tools. So thats out of the window at stage 1. Because of that alone its already useless to me. And to anyone else that wants any control.

As for the F3 or F5 then the same nonsense applies because they dont steer properly by design, and once you throw in perm own gyro then it only gets worse. Then theres their ICS nonsense to deal with and you cant.

In the US I would get the invacare rear drive chair and fit R-Net, or do the same with a pride chair. Or et the Q500F and swap the seat around the right way.
Those would be my options. Or the V4 rear drive magic chair. I wouldnt want a prehistoric bounder with its battery hanging out the rear and massive oversized low power motors. Even with R-Net.

Its a problem in the US/CAN if like me you want rear drive and some control. And since these companies DO make rear drive options its bonkers to me.

[daveonwheels]

my supplier refuses to pRovide those chairs

[Burgerman]

I believe you. So what can you do? Other than as I said above.

Lobby your government or the insurance companies or whowever is responsible for forcing you all into mid drives etc.

[Jay_x]

my supplier refuses to pRovide those chairs

who is your provider?

[daveonwheels]

NuMotion

[Jay_x]

You don't have the option of choosing a different supplier?

[Burgerman]

It would seem that if I lived in the US my only sane option would be https://www.sunrisemedical.com/power-wh ... rontier-v4 with lithium.

[daveonwheels]

You don't have the option of choosing a different supplier?

no.they have an ironclad contract with my insurance

[daveonwheels]

It would seem that if I lived in the US my only sane option would be https://www.sunrisemedical.com/power-wh ... rontier-v4 with lithium.

very nice. but my provider does not have any interest in allowing its clients to order these chairs

[Burgerman]

I have 5 chairs. I dont have a "provider" that doeesent provide. Your system is treating you like a nanny does. Its turned you all into its children. As long as you let it then theres no answer.

[LROBBINS]

In the U.S. you are not the customer: the insurance co, private or government, is. Free enterprise works when there is give and take between supplier and customer, and in that sense it does work in the U.S., but the WC user is neither supplier nor customer.

[Burgerman]

So you have a choice. Remain trapped and told what to do. Or do something about it.

Tell them you will sue them for refusing the rear drive hoice you need. And do so. Meanwhile buy used or new rear drive suitable chair like the V4 magic, or import a rear drive chair. Or let them supply a front drive q500 and turn it around, or fit R-Net to a rear drive pride/invacare chair or do whatever it takes.

I know what I would do. Life is too short. You cant make an omlette without breaking a few eggs. I am stubbourn. I dont suffer fools well. And would be rolling in a suitable chair one way or another.

Take the front drive Q500 chair. Like every chair it will need at least 2 or 3 hours of configuration anyway Add 2 more and now its a rear drive... Its really not impossible to deal with things. There are ways. If enough people object and take these insurers/providors to court they will get it.

[700R]

USA chair users appear to be treated like idiots but allow it at the same time. If any chair users have an ounce of capability they'd get hold of a rear-wheel- drive chair somehow and set it up correctly and never look back. The more that did this the more it'd be noticed and possibly change. If nothing changes at least an individual's chair would be suitable so they have no need to care. Of course you'd have to maintain it yourself which I suspect is the main reason most accept being told what they have because it's 'free' at the point of ordering.

[Burgerman]

AT LEAST nine out of ten users, likely many more, just take the easy route. The path of least resistance. Thats just how most people are. As long as they do, as you say nothing will change.

I on the other hand never give in. I am the path of high resistance. The source of all their problems... And today I am doing it again.

I am just in the process of calling to get a replacement patient hoist. I want to add a scale. The stock everyday lift the Oxford Midi 180 (KG) one that they send almost everyone doesent lift high enough. It wont allow me to lift adequately WITH my added scale...

So I did some research and found that the Oxford MAXI lift goes some 9 inches (225mm) higher... So I am calling the NHS right now! One way or another I will do this.

[Burgerman]

And we have a winner. Taller MAXI lift being delivered soon.

[700R]

And we have a winner. Taller MAXI lift being delivered soon.

You watch, it will hit the top of your door frames.

[Burgerman]

Looks right and sees a low rsj that divided these two rooms long ago...

[nld3]

My insurance company will pay for this Quickie 500h

[Burgerman]

It wont if its no longer available in the continental US.

[nld3]

I just got this reply from the wheelchair rehab clinic.

I'm seeing the Q500H as still available for ordering? There is an order form on their website.

[Burgerman]

But you posted this:

"Q500 H Power Wheelchair
A new generation of power wheelchair

The QUICKIE Q500 H brings you a unique blend of rear-wheel drive and mid-wheel drive technology, delivering impressive outdoor performance coupled with indoor maneuverability. Bringing you the best of both worlds and exceptional comfort.

This product has been discontinued and is no longer available to order."

https://www.sunrisemedical.com/power-wh ... ive/q500-h

And no order form now exist on the manufacturers US pages.
https://www.sunrisemedical.com/power-wh ... ive/q500-h