PINNED - Info on PROGRAMMING PGDT and others

[expresso]

PM!

got it thanks

[Burgerman]

Just been running through the defalt settings for my new chair in programming. Motor compensation 45 mOhms. Same as my BM3 motors. And same as my BM2 4 pole motors too. 3 different sets of 4 pole motors, all set to 45. So it beats me how expresso is managing with his set to a really low figure. Maybe in summer you should test it at 30, 35, and up to 45. See if it becomes more controllable.

[expresso]

my chair came stock at 30 for motor comp. on the Rnet 646se chair - maybe because its a faster motor 8.5 vs 6 ?

my other chair was set much higher at 65 - which was way too jerky - but i didnt know back then and since talking about that - its at 40 now and much better smoother

once i start using it again in the warmer days - i can set it higher and test it - i didnt touch it because it feels fine - but maybe i am missing out on something and will never know unless i try it at 35 , 40 etc

they are different motors - mines from yours - ? besides the speed - are they the same motors you think ?

[Burgerman]

If yours are 4 pole linix motors or AMT motors, or EMD, Electrocraft etc in fact every modern 4 pole they are the about the same 40 to 45 mOhm. 6 or 8 mph are the same. Only the gearing changes.

This is the older linix motors. These are about 40. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/ ... 1485439638

4 pole linix https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUICKIE-JIVE ... Sw2gxYpyMi

More https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUICKIE-JIVE ... SwIWVY-MsD

This is the newer smaller ones, about 40 to 45. 4 pole looks the same but 2 extra brush holders. http://www.sunrisemedical.co.uk/Sunrise ... 48ac74.jpg

AMT are german, also 45. http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images- ... r-side.jpg

[expresso]

mines are the linix motors - smaller than my previous chairs 4 pole which is the first link - thats my 222 se larger electrocraft motors - those work good at 40

but where stock at 65 -- once it was set to 40 was smoother to move around for others also -

now the sunrise linix are the smaller ones - stock settings for motor comp. was 30 -- i will try 40 and see what the difference is -

[shirley_hkg]

Does it turn better than Xplore ?

[Burgerman]

Dunno yet. I expect it will be massively better. Brushless hub motors just draw way too many amps for a very limited amount of torque. Great when rolling. Terrible under a load. And vague and innacurate at slow speeds. I still have a Storm 3 here to play and test.

[Burgerman]

Dunno yet. I expect it will be massively better. Brushless hub motors just draw way too many amps for a very limited amount of torque. Great when rolling. Terrible under a load. And vague and innacurate at slow speeds. I still have a Storm 3 here to play and test.

[rom88ve]

Hi guys, could someone make the software work with the ftdi 232 chip?

I do not know what to do anymore, where I live it is very difficult and expensive to get the cable that you have used

My converter is like this

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Please I NEED your help

[woodygb]

Modify the USB adapter like this.... 5v should be selected NOT 3.3V.

NOTE:- The PGDT Programming software requires YOU to select the Comms Port number assigned by Windows to the FTDI USB ....and this number MUST be in the range 1-8.


download/file.php?id=7152&mode=view

[rom88ve]

Thank you very much for your prompt response and help, I can see that you have helped a large number of people in this forum.

As for my case, I could not make my OEM switch to ACTIVE, I made the connections as you indicated.

I attached photos of my VSI to see if you can still help me with the problem.

Additionally, I would like to know if the software has to be specific or it can be any of the ones mentioned in this forum.

[woodygb]

Your software is fine and will program the VSi .

Please post pics of the FTDI USB to XLR build.

Post screenshots of the COM Port number assigned to the FTDI in Windows Device Manager.

Post screenshots of any error messages.

[gcebiker]

I attached photos of my VSI to see if you can still help me with the problem.

Rom, just wondering what the issue is that you are trying to repair with the program ?

I have a few of these lately and it was a blown Capacitor (under the board, the large ones) that needed replacing.
These caps, or the same spec http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/680uF-35V-Ra ... 0zxSxoQsCg

Cheers
Tony

[rom88ve]

Dear, again thank you for your answers, I attached a link where is the video of how I am doing the procedure, I hope it can be used to diagnose the problem of connection with the OEM.

The problem that my VSI presents is seen in the video, mobility does not work, it turns on and off LED 1 of the speed level.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67cI45s ... e=youtu.be

[greybeard]

Sorry guys but Windows10-illiterate old bloke needs help again.

Have Rnet dongle connected and for the past six hours have been trying to get Comms Active with no success. Been through many references I can find here using search but without success. Most of it seems to be about problems with wiring and components rather than this dongle.

Dongle is recognised by my Windows 10 laptop and icon appears in Control panel - 'devices and printers' but no comms port assigned.

Opening software shows 'Unable to open serial port'. Tools - Comms - all options show 'Unable to open comms port'

In device manager - 'universal serial bus controllers' Rnet dongle is listed. In properties it's reported to be working correctly and gives 'location' as Port_#0001.Hub_#0005. (Not sure what that means but it certainly doesn't work on comms port 1 - or 5 for that matter.

HELP. I would be very grateful if someone could post a simple step by step guide to get the dongle to show 'comms active'. Thanks.

[woodygb]

Looks ok.

There is NO need to play with any of the Com port settings.

One flashing led suggests a low battery charge.

I'm not sure what is wrong or if the Adafruit board will actually work.

[rom88ve]

Looks ok.

There is NO need to play with any of the Com port settings.

One flashing led suggests a low battery charge.

I'm not sure what is wrong or if the Adafruit board will actually work.

The batteries are 100% charged, it is due to a problem with the joystick since if I make some movements in it and switch to led 5 of the speed level.

I do not think they are batteries because they are new and just charged.

I wanted to connect to the OEM because that way I would observe particular faults, but I still do not achieve it.

Any way to communicate with CAN BUS?

[Burgerman]

Just for my information only. Put a volt meter on your batteries and tell me the exact voltage.

[Burgerman]

Opening software shows 'Unable to open serial port'. Tools - Comms - all options show 'Unable to open comms port'

R-net doesent ask for a serial port. So I suspect you are using the wrong software?

[greybeard]

Opening software shows 'Unable to open serial port'. Tools - Comms - all options show 'Unable to open comms port'

R-net doesent ask for a serial port. So I suspect you are using the wrong software?

I'm using the software and dongle borrowed from ICEUK. You are correct that it doesn't ask for a serial port, but a dialogue box opens if the USB light on the dongle does not stay on when the cable is plugged in and the programming software is opened.

[expresso]

the picture above of the JS is not R net -


i could be wrong if its an older version of R net - its not the same R net i have which is a few years old -

[Burgerman]

Sorry guys but Windows10-illiterate old bloke needs help again.

Have Rnet dongle connected and for the past six hours have been trying to get Comms Active with no success.

Was in reference to this! You cannot connect R-net dongle to anything BUT r net. Therefor greybeard has the wrong software!

[rom88ve]

Just for my information only. Put a volt meter on your batteries and tell me the exact voltage.

The voltage is at 25.2v

[greybeard]

Sorry guys but Windows10-illiterate old bloke needs help again.

Have Rnet dongle connected and for the past six hours have been trying to get Comms Active with no success.

Was in reference to this! You cannot connect R-net dongle to anything BUT r net. Therefor greybeard has the wrong software!

Don't think so, BM. See my last post.

[Burgerman]

Are you using R-Net software?
And on a chair with R-net controller?

[Burgerman]

Thats not a full charge.
If an AGM battery is actually fully charged its around 12.95V TO 13.05V after 48 hours unused.
If a gel battery is fully charged after 48 hours sitting it is 13.10 to 13.20V.
At 12V its effectively as discharged as you will ever want to go in a powerchair.

At 25.5V its around 12.75 per battery or around 85 percent charged. Even if your charger SAYS its 100%... They all overvolt and undercharge.

A full charge takes 16 hours.

For MK.

[greybeard]

Yes.

[woodygb]

Looks ok.

There is NO need to play with any of the Com port settings.

One flashing led suggests a low battery charge.

I'm not sure what is wrong or if the Adafruit board will actually work.

The batteries are 100% charged, it is due to a problem with the joystick since if I make some movements in it and switch to led 5 of the speed level.

I do not think they are batteries because they are new and just charged.

I wanted to connect to the OEM because that way I would observe particular faults, but I still do not achieve it.

Any way to communicate with CAN BUS?

You CANNOT use CAN-BUS or anyone else's software.

Try this just in case your FTDI Chip is counterfeit.


viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5488&start=60#p103486

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXz51jeSLSI

[greybeard]

Are you using R-Net software?
And on a chair with R-net controller?

Yes, I am. These are screenshots which hopefully will convince you I am using the correct Rnet software.

All I wish to do is follow the advice you gave me a few weeks ago to increase amps to try and cure my feeble Puma 40 tilt actuator. ICEUK was kind enough to lend me his dongle. I already had the software from his OEM DVD some time ago.

I need advice on how to assign a comms port to this dongle. I have tried everything I know (which is very little about Windows 10) and failed miserably. I'm hoping someone can guide me through exactly what I need to do. I apologise if this has been asked a hundred times before but I've spent hours looking through the forum and haven't found anything that helps.

[expresso]

I think your a bit confused about this Rnet dongle and software -

Your chair - does it use a Rnet system ? You Joystick dosnt look to be an Rnet model - most likely its not Rnet and your chairs electronics is NOT Rnet -

you cant use Rnet software or dongle with anything other than Rnet Electronics on your wheelchair -


i think thats the problem your having - you dont have Rnet Electronics on your chair - i could be wrong - can you take a good picture of your wheelchairs Controller ? maybe someone can help you with that picture -