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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Techguy » 16 Jan 2017, 01:01

Thanks,

I don't really want to re-invent the wheel with this. Would you be willing to share your schematic and sketch?
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby thecleancompany » 17 Apr 2017, 17:41

Hey BM

I took the brakes off of a pair of Fracmo power chair motors to allow me to use my Roboteq motor controller with my DX6 long ago and lost the brakes. Now I want to use a PG Pilot controller with the same motors to test another platform but only have the black and red wires from the motors. Can I set up the PG Pilot controller with only the black and red wires or does it have to have the brakes as part of the configuration to function?

Im still working on my beach power chairs too. Its a labor or love.
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Burgerman » 17 Apr 2017, 18:04

Add a resistor in place of a brake. Anything around say 100 ohm or whatever works. Its expecting to see a 100 to 15 ohm brake. Maybe even a 200 or 470 ohm will fool it. And get less hot and wast less power.
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby thecleancompany » 17 Apr 2017, 18:07

Thank you!
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby ex-Gooserider » 17 Apr 2017, 23:59

Note that you need to be using a reasonably sized power resistor, not a small one like used on most circuit boards... As a quick replacement, I believe the 'dropping resistors' one uses in a car when switching the turn signals from incandescent bulbs to LED's is a good choice... I prefer the ones with metal shells to the ceramic ones because I think they are more durable, but it doesn't make much difference electrically. It is also a good idea to attach the resistors to some metal part that can act as a heat sink...

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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Rye » 01 Jun 2017, 19:38

Has anyone connected the Woodygb RC interface to an Rnet joystick? I'm trying to locate the solder points on the circuit board. If you have any pictures I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby woodygb » 01 Jun 2017, 19:55

I'd suggest that you use the connections on the back of the charge port for power .
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Glitch » 22 Jul 2017, 23:26

Hi guys,
I've been reading this thread but my knowledge on the subject is weak so I'm gonna upgrade my brain. I'd like to know from the masters, where should I start? Ultimately, my goal is to use mostly spare/old parts to build myself a remote controlled snow plow chair.
I have been a para for 30 years so I have a good collection of parts.
I'd be starting with an x5 frame and guts.
Anyway I guess my question would be can you guys give me a few subjects that you'd consider must have knowledge in order to complete my project?

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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby gcebiker » 23 Jul 2017, 12:19

Glitch wrote:Hi guys,
I've been reading this thread but my knowledge on the subject is weak so I'm gonna upgrade my brain. I'd like to know from the masters, where should I start? Ultimately, my goal is to use mostly spare/old parts to build myself a remote controlled snow plow chair.
I have been a para for 30 years so I have a good collection of parts.
I'd be starting with an x5 frame and guts.
Anyway I guess my question would be can you guys give me a few subjects that you'd consider must have knowledge in order to complete my project?

Thanks,
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First step if you are going to use the X5, if you are able , can you post a picture of the controller ?
...tho others may know what it is, I've no idea.

There is a tab at the bottom of the page that lets you upload an attachment or alternatively you could email it to me if you like and i will post it for you.

Once we know what controller you have, we can better guide you on the shortest/cheapest route to take.

Woody's remote plugs into a lot of controllers that are VSI 'like' with the JC2000 joystick module in them.
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby ex-Gooserider » 25 Jul 2017, 00:52

Welcome... This is an international board, so it is helpful if you can go up to the "User Control Panel" near the top of the board and put in your location (at least country). This helps us give pointers to more useful (local) sources and so on...

In terms of the 'brain upgrade' I'd say that some depends on what you already know, but if you've been working on your chairs for a few years, you probably know the mechanical stuff fairly well... Therefore I'd say that the best starting place is to work on learning basic electricity and electronics... Get to know Ohm's Law forwards, backwards and in all it's combinations... Understand Volts, Amps, Ohms, and how they all inter-relate. Learn to solder if you don't already know. Get to know the basic components and at least generally what they do and how to recognize them... If you want to get more advanced, learn a bit about micro-controllers (the Arduino is a good starting point)... A couple of good sources for intro electronics stuff are Sparkfun and AdaFruit - they sell a lot of nice kits and have a lot of good intro information on their websites....

On the mechanical side, another factor is how much access you have to the equipment, but learning welding and machining is good to know - always handy to be able to make your own parts....

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Glitch wrote:Hi guys,
I've been reading this thread but my knowledge on the subject is weak so I'm gonna upgrade my brain. I'd like to know from the masters, where should I start? Ultimately, my goal is to use mostly spare/old parts to build myself a remote controlled snow plow chair.
I have been a para for 30 years so I have a good collection of parts.
I'd be starting with an x5 frame and guts.
Anyway I guess my question would be can you guys give me a few subjects that you'd consider must have knowledge in order to complete my project?

Thanks,
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby AndersN » 01 Dec 2017, 18:55

Hi guys!

Why haven't I found this forum before?! :? :P

I've been thinking about making r/c plow for plowing some snow here in Sweden during the winter, and now the snow is here again, and I still have no r/c plow.. :|

I've got quite a bit of experience when it comes to r/c, i've been flying some helicopters and drones.
And, I work with electric wheelchairs every day so I've got some experience there also.

So, I've been reading in this thread for a while now and I can't figure out if there is a "plug and play" kit to buy?
Maybe there is a language problem, or I might be half blind, or maybe just lazy.

What do I need? What is the cheapest way to get it working, I think I will go for a C500 R-Net.

Big thanks!
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby woodygb » 02 Dec 2017, 02:18

I can supply a R/C kit ...not plug and play but close.

P.M. me your email address and I'll send some info.
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Rye » 30 May 2018, 19:12

Got my OMNI R/C interface, but I'm having trouble getting the transmitter to operate the chair. Went through all the procedures. The interface is receiving signal from the transmitter, the interface is communicating with the OMNI, interface calibration is working, and OMNI JS calibration is working. I was able to move through the menu briefly, but could never drive the chair or turn it ON/OFF. I attached my PM parameters. Let me know if anything looks out of place please.
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Burgerman » 30 May 2018, 19:19

Similar here on the IOM module but currently cant look into it as trapped on bed :thumbdown:
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby gcebiker » 31 May 2018, 09:28

It's not in 'Training Mode' ?

A training facility that allows each direction of drive to be disabled is
also included in the Omni.This is particularly useful when teaching very
specialist users who may be unfamiliar with powerchair control.


....oh its not according to the PDF you uploaded.
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Rye » 01 Jun 2018, 02:28

gcebiker wrote:It's not in 'Training Mode' ?

A training facility that allows each direction of drive to be disabled is
also included in the Omni.This is particularly useful when teaching very
specialist users who may be unfamiliar with powerchair control.


....oh its not according to the PDF you uploaded.


Is it supposed to be in Training Mode?
Should all of these read "yes"? I didn't see anything about that in the Interface directions.

Training Mode
Forward Inhibit No
Reverse Inhibit No
Right Inhibit No
Left Inhibit No
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Rye » 01 Jun 2018, 03:05

Okay I got the transmitter to drive the chair by going to OMNI>Switches>User Switch and changing it to Normally Open. The R/C On/Off won't function. Also if I have the On/Off cable connecting before turning On the OMNI, the Omni won't switch On with the transmitter or Omni buttons. Getting closer.
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby woodygb » 01 Jun 2018, 11:21

Which channel or switch have you used on the transmitter for the ON/OFF?
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Rye » 01 Jun 2018, 13:36

I'm using the white cable connected to the pin labeled Rudder and inserting the other end into my receiver pin labeled Rudd. Is there something special I need to do when calibrating the interface and transmitter? I haven't found any setting in the Rnet programming to enable the On/Off port.
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby woodygb » 01 Jun 2018, 13:56

The connection process that you have described is correct and there is... as far as I am aware ... no ON/OFF parameter to alter.

I have sent you an email about how the signal / pulse should work.


TEST PROCEDURE TO HELP ME DIAGNOSE THE PROBLEM.


Try connecting to the THROTTLE Channel instead of the Rudder.

Then place the Throttle stick at one extreme .... Try the OMNI's ON/OFF button.
... do the same at the other Throttle stick extreme.

Any joy in MANUALLY turning the OMNI ON/OFF with either position ?
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Rye » 02 Jun 2018, 05:49

I switched the wires and it didn't seem to change anything. Any other tests or physical things I can check on the interface?
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby woodygb » 02 Jun 2018, 13:33

I can only think that the Mono plug is permanently ON ...thus creating a continuous button push effect.

Re calibration of the 3 channels would be my next suggestion.... put the Rudder lead back first.
However ...I recall that you mentioned in one of your emails that the calibration no longer works ... is that correct?

If you have no joy you should try un-soldering the yellow wire of the Mono plug ...then insert the plug back into the OMNI and then see if it's possible to manually turn it ON.
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Rye » 04 Jun 2018, 12:51

woodygb wrote:However ...I recall that you mentioned in one of your emails that the calibration no longer works ... is that correct?


I was referring to the OMNI JS calibration, but I have since got that to work and I can drive my chair with the transmitter. I've done the interface calibration several times and it doesn't change anything with the rudder/throttle stick. Should I calibrate the sticks one at a time or together? Should I calibrate with the MONO plug in the OMNI jack?
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby woodygb » 04 Jun 2018, 13:24

ALL sticks must be calibrated ... during the same 20 sec time period.

Try with the Mono Plug disconnected from the OMNI.
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Rye » 06 Jun 2018, 04:12

So far no luck getting it to work through calibration. I did find, however, a setting under Controls>Global>External On/Off Jack Detect. It was set to On so I turned it off to see what would happen, but nothing. There is also a Limp setting. Also, under Controls>Global>External Profile Jack Function>Profile/Mode Jack it gives the option to choose between a MONO or STEREO plug. It was set on MONO so I tried STEREO and nothing happened. I haven't tried de-soldering the yellow wire yet.
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby woodygb » 06 Jun 2018, 22:41

If all else fails I will send you a separate R/C ON/OFF box F.O.C.
I have in anticipation of it being a failure of my interface already bought in a Turnigy receiver controlled ON/OFF switch which will be combined with a 5v relay and Mono jack plug/lead.

IF disconnecting the yellow lead allows the OMNI to be turned ON/OFF with the Jack plug inserted then it is a problem with my interface.
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Burgerman » 07 Jun 2018, 00:23

I think I have a similar issue.
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby woodygb » 07 Jun 2018, 00:33

I have a NEW build started for you to try with 2 relays and ... as you requested.... hopefully a 4th channel for the 2nd relay .
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby tommyboyc » 21 Jun 2018, 06:59

I am slowly reading through this thread, so please forgive me if these were answered already. I would like to turn either my Jet 3 Ultra or Jazzy 1170 XL into a RC Lawnmower for the summer and RC Plow for the winter. Temporarily, if possible. The mower would most likely be something that is pull behind and I would figure out some sort of attachment for a small plow on the front. Both are in working order right now. I need to be able to do this in the cheapest possible way since medical bills seem to outweigh any "fun toy" stuff. How many channels are needed for the remote control? I currently have a Revo 3.3 with a 3 channel remote if that would work (would still need a receiver). If not, I could probably sneak a Turnigy TGY-i6 past the SPC (spouse purchasing committee). I have some RC knowledge, slowly learning electronics, and a little bit of mechanical know how. I have Lupus, Stiff Person Syndrome, Gastroparesis, Small Fiber Neuropathy, and diabetes to name a few so I am not able to do the above tasks on my own.

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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby woodygb » 21 Jun 2018, 08:02

3 Channels is fine and you might be able to strip the receiver out from your Revo.

If not ...one of these might fit the bill.

https://traxxas.com/products/parts/6519

Either of those 2 chairs is fine for conversion.
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