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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby jwSubMOA » 13 Apr 2016, 07:01

Hello all. It has been sime time since I checked in here. Does this interface work with the various versions of the Rnet 120? In the US I have one company that uses the AMT 4poles and Rnet system that will deal with my medical fund. I had to buy an Amy Systems Alltrack R so they would sell me parts. I have plenty of spares motors now and am trying Rnet for the first time. If this is not directly adaptable to the joysticks, could it be interfaced with the Omni module if necessary?
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby woodygb » 13 Apr 2016, 09:00

The interface can be made to suit either the Rnet joystick or an Omni.

However the joystick version requires some modification by the end user of the joystick housing ( a small nick in the casing to allow a 1/4" diameter wire to pass thru..) and the connection ( soldering ) of 3 wires inside the pod.

The Omni version simply requires some parameters to be set via the Omni's menu.

Note that Android bluetooth control version is available instead of the R/C.
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby gcebiker » 13 Apr 2016, 09:46

Oh that is a much better video than mine - good to know what to try and video.
I will do another one sometime if its necessary for a VSI style controller.
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby woodygb » 13 Apr 2016, 10:25

There is no difference in the actual interface box for any of the Penny & Giles range ...it's just the possible position of the internal connection points inside the pod ...for power and ON/OFF... that vary.
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby jwSubMOA » 13 Apr 2016, 19:50

Excellent! I will send you a PM reqarding ordering.
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby ivorprob » 20 Oct 2016, 13:26

Hello all
Now this will let everyone know my tech knowledge and after reading lots of post on this forum the silly questions start. How do I get a Bluetooth thingy to control my lightweight chair with VR2 control on my smart phone

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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby woodygb » 20 Oct 2016, 13:29

I could sell you one ... NOTE:- YOU will need to solder 3 connections inside the pod and put a small nick in the join.
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby ivorprob » 20 Oct 2016, 14:21

Thanks Woody

sent you a message. wish I had found this site long ago
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Techguy » 15 Jan 2017, 20:53

Hey woody, great work you've done here. I'm interested in being able to use some scrapped rnet parts to build a r/c snow pusher.

From what I understand the joystick is looking for a voltage signal. What are you using to control the joystick from the gimbal?

I'm new to modifying these electronics, however as a fairly new mobility tech I have good understand of the principles at work.

I have a few arduino micros kicking around I'd like to use for something like this. I just don't know where to start.
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby woodygb » 15 Jan 2017, 23:33

I use an Arduino and digipot to replicate the joysticks voltage swing.
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Techguy » 16 Jan 2017, 01:01

Thanks,

I don't really want to re-invent the wheel with this. Would you be willing to share your schematic and sketch?
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby thecleancompany » 17 Apr 2017, 17:41

Hey BM

I took the brakes off of a pair of Fracmo power chair motors to allow me to use my Roboteq motor controller with my DX6 long ago and lost the brakes. Now I want to use a PG Pilot controller with the same motors to test another platform but only have the black and red wires from the motors. Can I set up the PG Pilot controller with only the black and red wires or does it have to have the brakes as part of the configuration to function?

Im still working on my beach power chairs too. Its a labor or love.
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Burgerman » 17 Apr 2017, 18:04

Add a resistor in place of a brake. Anything around say 100 ohm or whatever works. Its expecting to see a 100 to 15 ohm brake. Maybe even a 200 or 470 ohm will fool it. And get less hot and wast less power.
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby thecleancompany » 17 Apr 2017, 18:07

Thank you!
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby ex-Gooserider » 17 Apr 2017, 23:59

Note that you need to be using a reasonably sized power resistor, not a small one like used on most circuit boards... As a quick replacement, I believe the 'dropping resistors' one uses in a car when switching the turn signals from incandescent bulbs to LED's is a good choice... I prefer the ones with metal shells to the ceramic ones because I think they are more durable, but it doesn't make much difference electrically. It is also a good idea to attach the resistors to some metal part that can act as a heat sink...

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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Rye » 01 Jun 2017, 19:38

Has anyone connected the Woodygb RC interface to an Rnet joystick? I'm trying to locate the solder points on the circuit board. If you have any pictures I'd appreciate it. Thanks.
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby woodygb » 01 Jun 2017, 19:55

I'd suggest that you use the connections on the back of the charge port for power .
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Glitch » 22 Jul 2017, 23:26

Hi guys,
I've been reading this thread but my knowledge on the subject is weak so I'm gonna upgrade my brain. I'd like to know from the masters, where should I start? Ultimately, my goal is to use mostly spare/old parts to build myself a remote controlled snow plow chair.
I have been a para for 30 years so I have a good collection of parts.
I'd be starting with an x5 frame and guts.
Anyway I guess my question would be can you guys give me a few subjects that you'd consider must have knowledge in order to complete my project?

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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby gcebiker » 23 Jul 2017, 12:19

Glitch wrote:Hi guys,
I've been reading this thread but my knowledge on the subject is weak so I'm gonna upgrade my brain. I'd like to know from the masters, where should I start? Ultimately, my goal is to use mostly spare/old parts to build myself a remote controlled snow plow chair.
I have been a para for 30 years so I have a good collection of parts.
I'd be starting with an x5 frame and guts.
Anyway I guess my question would be can you guys give me a few subjects that you'd consider must have knowledge in order to complete my project?

Thanks,
Brian


First step if you are going to use the X5, if you are able , can you post a picture of the controller ?
...tho others may know what it is, I've no idea.

There is a tab at the bottom of the page that lets you upload an attachment or alternatively you could email it to me if you like and i will post it for you.

Once we know what controller you have, we can better guide you on the shortest/cheapest route to take.

Woody's remote plugs into a lot of controllers that are VSI 'like' with the JC2000 joystick module in them.
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Re: Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby ex-Gooserider » 25 Jul 2017, 00:52

Welcome... This is an international board, so it is helpful if you can go up to the "User Control Panel" near the top of the board and put in your location (at least country). This helps us give pointers to more useful (local) sources and so on...

In terms of the 'brain upgrade' I'd say that some depends on what you already know, but if you've been working on your chairs for a few years, you probably know the mechanical stuff fairly well... Therefore I'd say that the best starting place is to work on learning basic electricity and electronics... Get to know Ohm's Law forwards, backwards and in all it's combinations... Understand Volts, Amps, Ohms, and how they all inter-relate. Learn to solder if you don't already know. Get to know the basic components and at least generally what they do and how to recognize them... If you want to get more advanced, learn a bit about micro-controllers (the Arduino is a good starting point)... A couple of good sources for intro electronics stuff are Sparkfun and AdaFruit - they sell a lot of nice kits and have a lot of good intro information on their websites....

On the mechanical side, another factor is how much access you have to the equipment, but learning welding and machining is good to know - always handy to be able to make your own parts....

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Glitch wrote:Hi guys,
I've been reading this thread but my knowledge on the subject is weak so I'm gonna upgrade my brain. I'd like to know from the masters, where should I start? Ultimately, my goal is to use mostly spare/old parts to build myself a remote controlled snow plow chair.
I have been a para for 30 years so I have a good collection of parts.
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby AndersN » 01 Dec 2017, 18:55

Hi guys!

Why haven't I found this forum before?! :? :P

I've been thinking about making r/c plow for plowing some snow here in Sweden during the winter, and now the snow is here again, and I still have no r/c plow.. :|

I've got quite a bit of experience when it comes to r/c, i've been flying some helicopters and drones.
And, I work with electric wheelchairs every day so I've got some experience there also.

So, I've been reading in this thread for a while now and I can't figure out if there is a "plug and play" kit to buy?
Maybe there is a language problem, or I might be half blind, or maybe just lazy.

What do I need? What is the cheapest way to get it working, I think I will go for a C500 R-Net.

Big thanks!
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby woodygb » 02 Dec 2017, 02:18

I can supply a R/C kit ...not plug and play but close.

P.M. me your email address and I'll send some info.
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Rye » 30 May 2018, 19:12

Got my OMNI R/C interface, but I'm having trouble getting the transmitter to operate the chair. Went through all the procedures. The interface is receiving signal from the transmitter, the interface is communicating with the OMNI, interface calibration is working, and OMNI JS calibration is working. I was able to move through the menu briefly, but could never drive the chair or turn it ON/OFF. I attached my PM parameters. Let me know if anything looks out of place please.
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Burgerman » 30 May 2018, 19:19

Similar here on the IOM module but currently cant look into it as trapped on bed :thumbdown:
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby gcebiker » 31 May 2018, 09:28

It's not in 'Training Mode' ?

A training facility that allows each direction of drive to be disabled is
also included in the Omni.This is particularly useful when teaching very
specialist users who may be unfamiliar with powerchair control.


....oh its not according to the PDF you uploaded.
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Rye » 01 Jun 2018, 02:28

gcebiker wrote:It's not in 'Training Mode' ?

A training facility that allows each direction of drive to be disabled is
also included in the Omni.This is particularly useful when teaching very
specialist users who may be unfamiliar with powerchair control.


....oh its not according to the PDF you uploaded.


Is it supposed to be in Training Mode?
Should all of these read "yes"? I didn't see anything about that in the Interface directions.

Training Mode
Forward Inhibit No
Reverse Inhibit No
Right Inhibit No
Left Inhibit No
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Rye » 01 Jun 2018, 03:05

Okay I got the transmitter to drive the chair by going to OMNI>Switches>User Switch and changing it to Normally Open. The R/C On/Off won't function. Also if I have the On/Off cable connecting before turning On the OMNI, the Omni won't switch On with the transmitter or Omni buttons. Getting closer.
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby woodygb » 01 Jun 2018, 11:21

Which channel or switch have you used on the transmitter for the ON/OFF?
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby Rye » 01 Jun 2018, 13:36

I'm using the white cable connected to the pin labeled Rudder and inserting the other end into my receiver pin labeled Rudd. Is there something special I need to do when calibrating the interface and transmitter? I haven't found any setting in the Rnet programming to enable the On/Off port.
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Re: PINNED - Plug & Play PGDT for Radio Control

Postby woodygb » 01 Jun 2018, 13:56

The connection process that you have described is correct and there is... as far as I am aware ... no ON/OFF parameter to alter.

I have sent you an email about how the signal / pulse should work.


TEST PROCEDURE TO HELP ME DIAGNOSE THE PROBLEM.


Try connecting to the THROTTLE Channel instead of the Rudder.

Then place the Throttle stick at one extreme .... Try the OMNI's ON/OFF button.
... do the same at the other Throttle stick extreme.

Any joy in MANUALLY turning the OMNI ON/OFF with either position ?
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