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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
04 May 2015, 15:13
by Vitolds
I told Woody that his scheme is not suitable.
that is not so simple, he did not believe me.
Woody can begin to trust Russian guy
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
04 May 2015, 15:48
by woodygb
IF the controller uses TTL logic and the Dynamic software and hardware is using Serial logic ..then it
could be a TTL signal logic to Serial signal logic convertor.
Signal differences.
https://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/215
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
04 May 2015, 18:05
by anubis801
I doubt it's TTl logic. The voltage on the programming pin on the XLR connector is around 9V. The inputs/outputs of the DWIZ-ADAPT on the Hyrose connector are RS232 levels. I hooked up a logic analyzer on the serial port to sniff some data and the wizard software does send some signal to the RTS prior to sending a packet to the TX line. Also the data coming out of tx does not match the HEX code on the wizard software and sometimes does not make any sense but I am not a software wizard myself so it may be just me. I must admit I don't know much of data sniffing techniques and this was one of my early attempts.
I will try a straight voltage level shifter to interface the controller with a FTDI FT-232 serial adapter.
I've not given up yet!
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
04 May 2015, 18:22
by Vitolds
you have large photo
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
04 May 2015, 19:07
by anubis801
You've got PM!
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
08 Feb 2016, 02:42
by anubis801
I finally solved my problem.
I had to re-invent the whole programming interface (the orange adapter).
Forget the easy circuit with the diode and a resistor. The wizard software doesn't like local ECHO on the serial RX and it puts inverted RS-232 signals (NOT regular RS-232 comunication) while the controller doesn't.
After a few days of analysing signals from the serial port to the controller and some serious experimenting with electronics (with the occasional magic smoke), I finally figured it out. I have designed my own programming interface for the Rhyno 2 controller.
Success at last!
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
12 Feb 2016, 05:32
by ex-Gooserider
GREAT to hear! please tell us details!
ex-Gooserider
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
18 Feb 2016, 04:41
by anubis801
Well since it is my own design and not a copy or imitation of the original I guess It is OK to share it with you.
Tested on a Rhyno2 controller.
You can order the PCB here.
http://dirtypcbs.com/view.php?share=16657&accesskey=Just a word of caution!
NOT for medical use!
This board is
EXPERIMENTAL and I designed it for the love of electronics and robots building hobby.
This is NOT a Dynamics product, nor am I in any way related with the company.
Use at your own risk!
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
18 Feb 2016, 17:52
by Irving
anubis801 wrote:Well since it is my own design and not a copy or imitation of the original I guess It is OK to share it with you.
Tested on a Rhyno2 controller.
You can order the PCB here.
http://dirtypcbs.com/view.php?share=16657&accesskey=Just a word of caution!
NOT for medical use!
This board is
EXPERIMENTAL and I designed it for the love of electronics and robots building hobby.
This is NOT a Dynamics product, nor am I in any way related with the company.
Use at your own risk!
How about a circuit diagram?
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
18 Feb 2016, 19:16
by anubis801
Schematic
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
18 Feb 2016, 19:27
by LROBBINS
Note that this is just the adapter that goes between the "programming plug" of a DX programming cable (i.e. RS232) and those controllers/modules that use the charging port for programming. You still need a dongle and USB to serial adapter if your computer doesn't have an RS232 port. Ciao, Lenny
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
18 Feb 2016, 20:55
by anubis801
This is correct! You must have the Security dongle to program your controller.
Without the security dongle to unlock/license the
"original" Wizard software program, you can only read the status report from your controller with this circuit.
In theory the dongle is just a license key which the software looks for through a software hardware driver.
Well, that is if you want to keep it legal
Not really a problem for Russia and China
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
09 Mar 2016, 16:17
by anubis801
Finished!
I got 10 PCB's left over, if anyone is interested in a bare PCB send me a PM.
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
22 Mar 2016, 12:58
by woodygb
Communication success with RHINO controller. ....NO dongle ..NO DWIZ-ADAPT ...NO board ...comms via cheap CH340 chip USB -SERIAL Adapter
e.g.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-USB2-0-TO ... SwuAVWx9ihThis adapter
MUST use a
win chip head CH340/341 or HL340 NOT a Prolific chip.
You will see 340 embossed on the RS232 end of the cable.
Wizard snapshot.
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
22 Mar 2016, 15:17
by terry2
Fantastic news
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
22 Mar 2016, 15:34
by woodygb
NOTE:- The Rhino scooter controller.... unlike wheelchair controllers/joysticks ....doesn't need the DWIZ-ADAPT as it has one built in to it.
I'll probably ask you to test two options on the wheelchair version...one will be using your DWIZ-ADAPT and the above Rhino solution...the other a guess at what the signal mode is that is coming via the charging port and without the DWIZ-ADAPT.
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
22 Mar 2016, 15:36
by terry2
woodygb wrote:NOTE:- The Rhino scooter controller.... unlike wheelchair controllers/joysticks ....doesn't need the DWIZ-ADAPT as it has one built in to it.
I'll probably ask you to test two options on the wheelchair version.
I'm all for testing
Was your OS win 98 or win 7?
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
22 Mar 2016, 15:40
by woodygb
WIN 10 64 bit.
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
22 Mar 2016, 15:41
by terry2
Thanks Woody
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
22 Mar 2016, 17:04
by LROBBINS
Note that some Dynamic systems do need the DWIZ-ADAPT and some do not. The one Rachi used to have on her chair - the DX-SCR = SpecialtyControlsRemote had a separate mini-DIN style programming port connected by a straight through cable to a DB9 (RS232) plug. Of course, one still needs a USB to serial adapter if your computer doesn't have an old-fashioned COM port, so I'm glad you've found one that works well. I kept a clunky old Toshiba laptop just to use for the Wizard. Wonder if the FTDI USB to RS232 adapter I use with the Roboteq would also work?
Ciao,
Lenny
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
22 Mar 2016, 17:14
by woodygb
Give it whirl Lenny it can't harm.
BTW ..Terry has a DWIZ-ADAPT ....which he has currently lent me ...perhaps in a week or 2 we can find a simple solution to the DWIZ-ADAPT.
P.S. Does anyone know the EXACT designation of the Hirose plug/socket?
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
22 Mar 2016, 17:18
by LROBBINS
Can't. No longer have a DX system installed, and I've lent my (parallel) OEM Dongle and (RS232) programming cable to Irving. I don't know if he's intending to use a computer with a com port, or has to use a USB-RS232 adapter. Ciao, Lenny
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
31 Mar 2016, 15:51
by terry2
The cable with the dwiz is working on my Puma 40
Nice one woody.
I see my speed is set too 90%! will I have more SPEED if I crank it to 100%
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
31 Mar 2016, 16:15
by Burgerman
Why bother with 90?
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
31 Mar 2016, 17:07
by rover220
terry2 wrote:The cable with the dwiz is working on my Puma 40
Nice one woody.
I see my speed is set too 90%! will I have more SPEED if I crank it to 100%
Do you have a hasp key to enable you to make any changes?
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
31 Mar 2016, 17:08
by terry2
Burgerman wrote:Why bother with 90?
That was my thinking. I don't think 10% will make much difference. My batteries will be install tomoz.
So I will see after charging.
I also noticed there are 5 profiles to play with. My chair only shows 4?
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
31 Mar 2016, 17:15
by rover220
terry2 wrote:Burgerman wrote:Why bother with 90?
That was my thinking. I don't think 10% will make much difference. My batteries will be install tomoz.
So I will see after charging.
I also noticed there are 5 profiles to play with. My chair only shows 4?
Look in the joystick options and you'll see the max number of drive profiles. Change that to 5 and you'll have 5 available.
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
31 Mar 2016, 17:16
by terry2
rover220 wrote:terry2 wrote:Burgerman wrote:Why bother with 90?
That was my thinking. I don't think 10% will make much difference. My batteries will be install tomoz.
So I will see after charging.
I also noticed there are 5 profiles to play with. My chair only shows 4?
Look in the joystick options and you'll see the max number of drive profiles. Change that to 5 and you'll have 5 available.
Nice bit of info there. Thank you so much
I'll try and find a manual on it be for messing
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
31 Mar 2016, 17:20
by rover220
Do you have the hasp key/dongle?
Re: DWIZ-ADAPT
Posted:
31 Mar 2016, 17:27
by terry2
rover220 wrote:Do you have the hasp key/dongle?
No woody done his wizardry on my dwiz and a serial cable.