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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 29 Apr 2017, 13:24
by gcebiker
Cheapest way to get an adapter is to make up one of the board i linked to above, you will still need a USB - RS232 and the software but they are the easy parts.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4095&start=20#p78602

My code / arduino Shark Joystick emulator will only work with Shark Power Modules...it was not a cheap alternative...a new joystick only cost me $230USD two weeks ago.
Parts for the emulator board / bits i messed up / Logic Analyzer / Factory Wizard Kit many times what it cost for a new joystick.

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 29 Apr 2017, 13:32
by jagodo
rover220 wrote:You normally have to connect directly to the 4 pin molex via the DWIZ-ADAPT

So my issue is probably just having a blue adaptor instead of an orange one?

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 29 Apr 2017, 13:33
by gcebiker
jagodo wrote:
rover220 wrote:You normally have to connect directly to the 4 pin molex via the DWIZ-ADAPT

So my issue is probably just having a blue adaptor instead of an orange one?


Yup

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 29 Apr 2017, 13:35
by gcebiker
Or drop it into a shop to get it tweaked, money well spent getting little jobs like this done professionally...if its likely to be your only need for the tools.

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 29 Apr 2017, 13:39
by woodygb
The DWIZ-ADAPT does indeed level shift the signal voltage that Dynamic are using to a std P.C. serial signal.
So ... as previously mentioned .. You need to make an adaptor from the Rhino 2's 4 pin molex to a DWIZ -ADAPT .

Your BLUE ADAPT may not work.

See pic...
dynamic hirose interface rhino sm.jpg

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 29 Apr 2017, 14:07
by jagodo
gcebiker wrote:Cheapest way to get an adapter is to make up one of the board i linked to above, you will still need a USB - RS232 and the software but they are the easy parts.

This DX-HHC cost me 240USD + 50USD carriage + 20% VAT/duty, seems a pity not to use it! But there we are, live and learn.
I like the idea of making up something, like that adaptor board, because it shows my wife that some of my hobbies can actually be useful for something - anything I do for my cars doesn't count!

I like the look of those boards.

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 29 Apr 2017, 14:25
by jagodo
gcebiker wrote:Or drop it into a shop to get it tweaked, money well spent getting little jobs like this done professionally...if its likely to be your only need for the tools.

That was my initial response too, but after not having the scooter for a week and costing £200 for a service and replacing the ignition switch, the intermittent problem of the controller detecting a fault persists. My wife has two scooters and she uses this big one mainly for walking the dog during the day when I'm at work. She is currently using her little unsprung one because she doesn't like waiting 20 minutes for me to get to her in order to push her home.

She was talking about getting a new scooter, so I thought that the cost of the programmer seemed worth a gamble.

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 29 Apr 2017, 14:40
by rover220
jagodo wrote:
rover220 wrote:You normally have to connect directly to the 4 pin molex via the DWIZ-ADAPT

So my issue is probably just having a blue adaptor instead of an orange one?


Not probably, definitely.

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 31 Oct 2017, 23:08
by BulldozerDK
gcebiker wrote:... and the software but they are the easy parts....

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How would one solve this apparently easy part? :)

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 18 Dec 2017, 16:34
by alfiepink
woodygb wrote:Communication success with RHINO controller. ....NO dongle ..NO DWIZ-ADAPT ...NO board ...comms via cheap CH340 chip USB -SERIAL Adapter

e.g. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-USB2-0-TO ... SwuAVWx9ih

This adapter MUST use a win chip head CH340/341 or HL340 NOT a Prolific chip.

You will see 340 embossed on the RS232 end of the cable.
Image
Wizard snapshot.
rhino.png


good afternoon. my name is alfie. i'm new to this forum. please to meet you all.

got a minor issue. i own mercury regatta i brought it second hand to get me about on. but someone before me had it turned down. the controller inside of it is ds112k01 110 amp . i brought a hand held tool to plug in to it which have the dwiz adapters blue and orange. but i'm told this will not work and i also have tried it and it will not talk to my controller . so i have been trying to build a cable up for this. i have downloaded the dynamic wizard 5 from dynamic website. i brought the blue rs232 blue cable from eBay same one as pictured above. i just need to put it all together . i have no problem in cutting the cable from my hand held device to plug directly in to the controller. will i be able to talk to it and speed it up. my main concern is. will i need a dongle ?

from alfie

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 18 Dec 2017, 17:26
by woodygb
No adapters required ...just plug into the Hirose socket.

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 22 Dec 2017, 22:05
by alfiepink
woodygb wrote:No adapters required ...just plug into the Hirose socket.


Hi all the components came today i assembled it .it worked first time. I can only read the settings and faults. But I cannot write to the controller. It says lite version. And it also says dongle lite. Would this be the reason as to why I cannot write new settings to the speed.

If this is the case any idea how i change change it to another version. In the drop down menu it only says lite.

From Alfie

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 22 Dec 2017, 23:54
by Burgerman
See pm.

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 24 Dec 2017, 18:40
by alfiepink
Burgerman wrote:See pm.


Hi many thanks it worked like a charm

From Alfie

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 21 Feb 2018, 21:56
by jim777
Good evening all, my name is Jim and I am new to this forum.

I have a friend who has a “Drive Sport Rider 8mph Mobility Scooter” which contains an “RHINO2 DS160” controller.
I have offered to see if I can tweak some settings for him.

I can see from this thread I will need to connect to the controllers 4 pin mini Molex, via the orange circuit, correct 232 to USB convertor and the correct software.
I would be most grateful if someone could help me with the correct software?

Regards
Jim

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 21 Feb 2018, 22:57
by woodygb
Software is not a problem and yes the RHINO 2 requires the use of a DWIZ-ADAPT or a homemade interface ...check your P.M.

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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 22 Feb 2018, 00:02
by jim777
Thank you very much.
I will order all the bits and try it out, and report back here.

regards
Jim

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 06 May 2018, 11:36
by woodygb
Vero / stripboard version of Anubis schematic.... note there is a small mod to the original schematic.

This fits into a 9v PP3 Battery holder box.

Wizard_orange_programmer.jpg




dynamic dongle schematic jpega comp.jpg


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Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 06 May 2018, 11:37
by woodygb
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P1010022.JPG

DYNAMIC DONGLE PIC SCHEMATIC jpega comp.jpg

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 07 May 2018, 11:32
by woodygb
Complete set of Dynamic plugs/leads.
3 pin XLR ,4 pin Molex & 5 pin Hirose
DYNAMIC LEADS.jpg

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 08 May 2018, 20:19
by rover220
woodygb wrote:Complete set of Dynamic plugs/leads.
3 pin XLR ,4 pin Molex & 5 pin Hirose
DYNAMIC LEADS.jpg


top work, just need to hack my linx key now!!

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 31 May 2018, 00:25
by jim777
Hello Gents,
I made an adapter from the schematic given earlier and brought an 340 RS232 adapter.
I can get a response from the controller (dynamic rhino 2), this can be seen from the attached picture. The scope probe is on the Rx pin of the RS232 convertor. The first transmitted frame is from the PC and the controller response frame does not go to 0V, however I do not get any response from the (special) software.
Does anybody have any ideas what’s wrong?
Regards
Jim

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 31 May 2018, 00:26
by jim777
Heres another scope trace.

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 31 May 2018, 09:10
by gcebiker
Need 2 probes,...i guess one on TX and other on RX....(because you cant possibly have read TX and RX on the RX line alone...)
...or maybe you can given the XLR, sorry rusty but i thought it split the signal out on the middle and one of the power pins ?

Reading the PC side with the split signals might be more reliable.

Settings for XLR side are
XLR settings for logic capture.png


That is my data capture from tapping the factory plug/special software to my Dynamic Shark, i dont expect it to look like yours.

But it can take some time, a minute or so for the Wizard software to cycle around its codes at the bottom before it sync's green.

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 31 May 2018, 11:09
by woodygb
jim777 wrote:Hello Gents,
I made an adapter from the schematic given earlier and brought an 340 RS232 adapter.
I can get a response from the controller (dynamic rhino 2), this can be seen from the attached picture. The scope probe is on the Rx pin of the RS232 convertor. The first transmitted frame is from the PC and the controller response frame does not go to 0V, however I do not get any response from the (special) software.
Does anybody have any ideas what’s wrong?
Regards
Jim


The CH340 is mostly OK ...You will get better and more consistent results with an FTDI based USB-RS232 lead.

E.G. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Converter-Conn ... dpSrc=srch

Double and triple check the Molex and Interface connections..... post a pic and I can look.

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 31 May 2018, 13:25
by gcebiker
If i can, over the weekend i will build up one of the boards from Anubus, Dirty Cheap PCB...that have been sitting in the shed for a year waiting to be built up...
And do a capture, its sure to be different but I am interested to see what it spits out.

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 06 Jun 2018, 00:00
by jim777
Hello gcebiker,
Do you have an spare adapter made up?
Could you post it to the UK, how much do you want for one?

Regards
Jim

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 06 Jun 2018, 00:11
by woodygb
You could... if you want.... post me what you have made and I can look over it.

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 06 Jun 2018, 03:03
by gcebiker
jim777 wrote:Hello gcebiker,
Do you have an spare adapter made up?
Could you post it to the UK, how much do you want for one?

Regards
Jim


Hi Jim, its much cheaper to get direct from Dirty Cheap PCB... (or post your own to woody per his offer)

From experience,
I got some Shark Emulators boards from them built them up and posted to Woody,, it was not a cheap exercise (very worth while though).

Postage to anywhere OS is expensive from Australia.

I had forgotten to build a board up, i will try to remember banghead

Re: DWIZ-ADAPT

PostPosted: 08 Jun 2018, 13:04
by gcebiker
Picked up the parts to build up Anubus's orange adapter board today, hoping to have enough function to get it assembled over the weekend.