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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby tutatu » 22 Nov 2017, 21:44

well... I will correct it soon :hammer
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby snaker » 15 Apr 2018, 01:49

I bought some valves on taobao as in the pic underneath. Their name in English is "DC24V normally closed drain valve". I tested them with a 24V power source and I see they work. If connecting the valve to the power source, I hear a small sound and it opens. The problem is that its hole (gap?) when opening is too small. The water can only drip a little through the valve. It might take a day to empty just 500ml. Is there anything in the valve that I can modify or adjust to increase the water flow?

@tutatu: How long time does your valve take to empty a 500ml bag.

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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 15 Apr 2018, 08:43

Theres a small hole that can be drilled out a little, with care.

Or fit this instead! diaphram pump. It wont leak under gravity. You could fire urine about 3 metres... https://www.mudah.my/Electric+Fuel+Pump ... 333082.htm

http://www.nexusmodels.co.uk/kavan-elec ... -0190.html This is a gear pump. It will leak at the bottom. THIS will allow you to run the pump at the top where you sit. Just add tube. And fit under the seat or something. And fire it out of the top via a tube to wherever you want like a toilet, or your enemy...
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby snaker » 15 Apr 2018, 09:24

This "diaphram pump" looks cool. Does it have a 24V one?
I am thinking about an urine gun (I have many enemies) :ak47
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 15 Apr 2018, 09:51

If you search you will likely find one. But it would likely be ok on 24v anyway. Fire further! :ak47
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 15 Apr 2018, 11:16

https://www.banggood.com/Universal-8mm- ... rehouse=CN

probably smaller/better.

Its hard to know which are diaphram types.

Better... https://www.banggood.com/Diaphragm-Pump ... rehouse=CN
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby tutatu » 15 Apr 2018, 18:15

Oriffice on my valve are 1/4" or 6mm I think. I have 1.5l bag and time to take to empty it is about 2 minutes. Now I have mounted on right armrest mini taster, but it works only when I'm hold it, I hate to wait and hold pressed button for minutes - it takes for ages.


These days I will mount bluetooth relay switch, so when I'm in the hurry I can easily press in app button and continue driving :mrgreen:
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby snaker » 16 Apr 2018, 02:01

Can 12V pumps work with a 24V power source? Because I see the sellers warn buyers have to use the right power source.

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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby shirley_hkg » 16 Apr 2018, 02:54

Super mini pump 3--12V @£0.2.

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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby shirley_hkg » 16 Apr 2018, 03:05

snaker wrote:Can 12V pumps work with a 24V power source? Because I see the sellers warn buyers have to use the right power source.


Recommend to have a dozen of these gum sized voltage regulator boards always handy .

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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby snaker » 16 Apr 2018, 03:18

shirley_hkg wrote:Super mini pump 3--12V @£0.2.

Are these pumps closed when not powered (like normally closed)?
Why do not they make a 24V version to ease things :fencing
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby shirley_hkg » 16 Apr 2018, 03:52

LOOK AT THAT JET STREAM .

Powerful 12V Waterproof pump for windscreen washing .
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A big revenge to enemy as BM advocated , or fun for irrigation .
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby shirley_hkg » 16 Apr 2018, 04:04

Top gear for raising speed , if fired at the rear . cheers :dirtbike :dirtbike
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 16 Apr 2018, 10:29

Thats a centrifugl pump. So it will allow urine to flow under gravity just like a pipe. :ak47

Diagpham pump wont flow till turned on. :mrgreen:

Gear pump will flow a little (dribble...) :oops:
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 16 Apr 2018, 10:31

snaker wrote:Can 12V pumps work with a 24V power source? Because I see the sellers warn buyers have to use the right power source.



No you need 6, 9 or 2v regulator. Those are cheap.
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby snaker » 17 Apr 2018, 07:44

Is it a diaphragm pump?

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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 17 Apr 2018, 09:41

No. It has a motor. It is a gear pump.
If it has a motor AND one centre input, and one edge output pipe, its centrifugal.
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby snaker » 17 Apr 2018, 10:52

Is this one correctly diaphragm? The title says "diaphragm" but it seems having a motor.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/332603692426
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 17 Apr 2018, 11:02

Theres 2 ways to work a diaphram pump. Electro magnet like a piston. Or a motor and a cam... If it has a motor it works with a cam. But you can still see its a diaphram pump from the design/shape.

Diaphram usually wont flow by gravity at low pressures. Since pressure too low to open valves. Self priming. And pulses... Lower pressures and low flow, quiet. Can pump air and uphill.

Centrifugal wont work unless full of water and will not self prime, cant do high pressures. Can do very high flow!
Gear can do very high pressures, and low flow. Self primes, dont like air much... And will allow a dribble to flow under gravity when off.
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 17 Apr 2018, 11:07

GEAR
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 17 Apr 2018, 11:18

Diaphram pump.
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby snaker » 21 May 2018, 09:28

I just fitted a pump, it work like a charm :clap:
35s to empty 500ml :thumbup:
https://youtu.be/jr1KOUZOvFo

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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 21 May 2018, 10:16

Not sure I dare click it. To watch you pee! :cussing

Oh... I thought it was a vid! :clap
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby snaker » 21 May 2018, 10:22

Dont worry, it was a test with fresh water (not urine) :thumbup:
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 21 May 2018, 10:55

which pump type?

Geared or diaphram?

We need a vid!
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby snaker » 22 May 2018, 01:15

It is truly diaphragm, supports 12-24V. The link of test video is above.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/332603692426
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby snaker » 25 May 2018, 01:25

I tested the gun in the real life. Yesterday I went out in 8hrs, fired 5 shots, each took 10s. All were PERFECT, I got home with an empty bag :joint
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 25 May 2018, 01:29

But what did you hit :shifty:
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