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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby funkykeyboard » 17 Oct 2017, 14:27

Looks like back to plan a/1 LOL

I thought I had found the distributor, apparently not. Pinch solenoid seem to be expensive, though they are the most hygienic. For most people price is going to be an issue. So these look like a good compromise.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/G1-4-Solenoid ... PM6oh7AhyQ

Thanks for everybody's advice so far, listened and learned.

Any advice appreciated, Tremulous Tetra. :-)
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby popschief » 17 Oct 2017, 16:30

Good price on those valves and 24 volt too. I wonder if the coil would heat up at that voltage.
Might want to keep away from skin. Then there's the gunk that would surely build up
possibly causing leakage. Not an issue with the pinch valve.

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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby funkykeyboard » 18 Oct 2017, 20:44

popschief wrote:Good price on those valves and 24 volt too. I wonder if the coil would heat up at that voltage.
Might want to keep away from skin. Then there's the gunk that would surely build up
possibly causing leakage. Not an issue with the pinch valve.

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I appreciate the input. To counter what you're saying, at that kind of price, they are throwaway. Use 1 as long as it works and throwaway.

My major concern is COST. So anybody can afford it. I'd afford to work throwaway that part.

My major concern with this methodology is what people have said about infection. What I used to do was flush it through every night with a bag of water. However from what people have said, probably better off with bleach. Realise this is a chore for your PA if you have one. But I can't see any work that way round (besides the pinch mechanism, which so far seems to be a fortune i.e. £174).

Any advice appreciated, Tremulous Tetra. :-)
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby funkykeyboard » 18 Oct 2017, 20:45

popschief wrote:Good price on those valves and 24 volt too. I wonder if the coil would heat up at that voltage.
Might want to keep away from skin. Then there's the gunk that would surely build up
possibly causing leakage. Not an issue with the pinch valve.

bp

oh yes, I got a 12 V version, because they are 12 V batteries on wheelchairs. Was that a mistake for some reason?

Any advice appreciated, Tremulous Tetra. :-)
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Dan » 18 Oct 2017, 21:25

Two 12V batteries in series = one 24V battery. But I think you can still run it of just one battery.
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 18 Oct 2017, 22:08

Not without damaging both every time you recharge. You really need 24v.
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 18 Oct 2017, 22:09

Not without damaging both every time you recharge. You really need 24v. Although it wont take much and used only occasionally. But still.
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby ex-Gooserider » 24 Oct 2017, 02:43

Or one could run it via a 24-12DC-DC converter, which wouldn't be to bad if the current requirement is low...

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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby funkykeyboard » 20 Nov 2017, 16:53

tutatu wrote:Here's mine non-contact leg bag emptier

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What voltage is that? How do you power it? Of the wheelchair battery, or stand-alone battery?

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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby funkykeyboard » 21 Nov 2017, 17:21

I have managed to locate in the UK firm that will supply 1 of these.
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It's a bit large. The price is about £70. And you know the Bluetooth controller but also prices about £90.

The one above is better, because it fits to your leg, and if your leg moves it doesn't matter. The one I have is too big to be fitted to the leg, and so would have to be fitted to the chair. If your leg moved too far, it may pull the tube out, and leave a leg bag to drain all over the floor. Problem.
However, it would make it easier to power supply it from the chair. Plus.

No idea how the other one the other fella had its powered.

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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 21 Nov 2017, 18:41

https://www.carbuildersolutions.com/uk/ ... -off-valve

Just use one of these. Occasionally wash in bleach to keep bug free. But expensive.

Cheaper posibly better solutions
Or https://www.ebay.com/p/Electric-Solenoi ... 0005.m2219

Or all plastic https://www.ebay.com/p/Electric-Solenoi ... 0005.m2219

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-12V-Small-E ... 0005.m2219

https://www.ebay.com/p/Dc12v-Normally-C ... 0005.m2219

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-12V-Micro-E ... 0005.m2219

TWENTY FOUR VOLT

https://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-24V-Mini-El ... Swa81aCUr6

24V BLACK https://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-24V-Small-P ... SwIINZ0JRk

No pipe size? https://www.ebay.com/itm/Electric-Solen ... Swx2dYIvzq


Last few can be powered by a tiny rechargable 9v battery. And a single button. And a thin long cable. You are overthinking it. Fit to legbag, or under the footplate with velcro... If you want to power from a wheelchair, plug it into the charge port to empty, with an added resistor to drop the volts to 12.
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 21 Nov 2017, 19:44

Yes! Ideal. Only fly in the ointment is 52 dollars shipping and 40 dollars to buy. Then get 50 dollars customs duty/fees etc in the UK from the USA. :argument

If it could be shipped as medical equipment and the idiots at customs read it then you can be exempt from that.
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby LROBBINS » 21 Nov 2017, 20:28

Yes, at that rate you might as well buy one out of the Cole-Parmer UK catalog.
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby shirley_hkg » 22 Nov 2017, 09:19

12V DC .

ITS $0.50 a piece .

Anyone can afford a new one per week .
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby tutatu » 22 Nov 2017, 20:54

funkykeyboard wrote:
What voltage is that? How do you power it? Of the wheelchair battery, or stand-alone battery?

Any advice appreciated, Tremulous Tetra. :-)


Power is from chair battery
It's 24v. I have installed 12V to 24V Step-up Power Converter. Mini taster near joystick for easy press. :ugeek:
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby tutatu » 22 Nov 2017, 21:03

Hurry up!

This is the guy I purchased my valve few years ago. From time to time he put new valves on ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/bio-chem-100p2-s86-pinch-valve-12-vdc-3-16-od-tubing/282743118871
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 22 Nov 2017, 21:20

It's 24v. I have installed 12V to 24V Step-up Power Converter.


This is upside down, back to front, or you are ruining a battery. :?
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby tutatu » 22 Nov 2017, 21:34

I know. I had lazy friend when we installing all wiring :mrgreen:
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 22 Nov 2017, 21:40

You mean you are running this from a single battery. And using an inverter to get 24V? Thats crazy. And it will kill your batteries fast too. :cussing
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby tutatu » 22 Nov 2017, 21:44

well... I will correct it soon :hammer
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby snaker » 15 Apr 2018, 01:49

I bought some valves on taobao as in the pic underneath. Their name in English is "DC24V normally closed drain valve". I tested them with a 24V power source and I see they work. If connecting the valve to the power source, I hear a small sound and it opens. The problem is that its hole (gap?) when opening is too small. The water can only drip a little through the valve. It might take a day to empty just 500ml. Is there anything in the valve that I can modify or adjust to increase the water flow?

@tutatu: How long time does your valve take to empty a 500ml bag.

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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 15 Apr 2018, 08:43

Theres a small hole that can be drilled out a little, with care.

Or fit this instead! diaphram pump. It wont leak under gravity. You could fire urine about 3 metres... https://www.mudah.my/Electric+Fuel+Pump ... 333082.htm

http://www.nexusmodels.co.uk/kavan-elec ... -0190.html This is a gear pump. It will leak at the bottom. THIS will allow you to run the pump at the top where you sit. Just add tube. And fit under the seat or something. And fire it out of the top via a tube to wherever you want like a toilet, or your enemy...
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby snaker » 15 Apr 2018, 09:24

This "diaphram pump" looks cool. Does it have a 24V one?
I am thinking about an urine gun (I have many enemies) :ak47
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 15 Apr 2018, 09:51

If you search you will likely find one. But it would likely be ok on 24v anyway. Fire further! :ak47
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby Burgerman » 15 Apr 2018, 11:16

https://www.banggood.com/Universal-8mm- ... rehouse=CN

probably smaller/better.

Its hard to know which are diaphram types.

Better... https://www.banggood.com/Diaphragm-Pump ... rehouse=CN
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby tutatu » 15 Apr 2018, 18:15

Oriffice on my valve are 1/4" or 6mm I think. I have 1.5l bag and time to take to empty it is about 2 minutes. Now I have mounted on right armrest mini taster, but it works only when I'm hold it, I hate to wait and hold pressed button for minutes - it takes for ages.


These days I will mount bluetooth relay switch, so when I'm in the hurry I can easily press in app button and continue driving :mrgreen:
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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby snaker » 16 Apr 2018, 02:01

Can 12V pumps work with a 24V power source? Because I see the sellers warn buyers have to use the right power source.

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Re: Screw in nipple? For leg bag emptier.

Postby shirley_hkg » 16 Apr 2018, 02:54

Super mini pump 3--12V @£0.2.

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