rover220 wrote:
you dont get that margin on parts, more usually 20% but sometimes as low as 10%
the argin on a new product has to cover the minimum 2 trips to assess and then deliver a chair and it also has to cover the potential warranty call outs that manufacturers dont cover the cost of.
rent alone on our unit is £30k pa, i think you need to re align your expectations
Burgerman wrote:In a capitalist system, its not the manufacturer, or distributors job to police the end retail supplier. They rise or fall on their own merit, as decided by the paying customer and their ability to make a profit at the end of the year.
rover220 wrote:
manufacturers once upon a time were selective to who they gave accounts, now it is about volume and supplying as many dealers as possible, there are 5 such dealers within 15 miles of us. they will not listen to one end user complaining if the dealer is shifting stock and hitting targets
Burgerman wrote:I honestly cant see any point in test drives. A tiny seatng, positioning difference of some part, programming differences, or hardware motor or cotroller, or a centre footrest option, for eg, and a minute setup difference change an unusable chair into a great one. So its really no help.
What does matter is KNOWING what you want and knowing what is possible, understanding the effect of these options, configurations, so you can decide what works, then order your best options, and then configure it properly. Only then is a test worthwhile.
Can't tell from looking at a few photos in a catalogue that something will be such a pile of shit that even 3 weeks of major adjustments won't make it even vaguely usable. 5 minutes of trying to do things while in a demo one would have saved about 7 months of wasted time.Burgerman wrote:I honestly cant see any point in test drives. A tiny seatng, positioning difference of some part, programming differences, or hardware motor or cotroller, or a centre footrest option, for eg, and a minute setup difference change an unusable chair into a great one. So its really no help.
I created a thread here a while ago about my Salsa and found out that it used plastic bushes and was a bad design (thanks Rover220).How can you tell that from a parts book?
It is a powered backrest but I don't know which one. Without me in the chair it moves forward and back with a lot of play, with my weight and a vent hung on the back if I go over any bump I bounce forward and back, in the van it is constantly bouncing, head bangs off headrest, really uncomfortable.
This was a 6 wheeled thing they forced on me. Their choice of indoor chair ignoring my request for something that matched my RWD very basic chair that had died.Burgerman wrote:ALL chairs are just a seat. And 4 wheels. And some programming.
If the seating position is identical, and the programming is identical and the position of the GG is the same, then if you were blindfolded you couldnt tell the difference in use. Providing same sized tyres, and adequate torque to follow joystick. THERE ARE NO OTHER DIFFERENCES! Unless you think theres some special woo woo in there too.[/i]
She was totally obsessed with posture correcting seating and wouldn't supply a basic chair. The posture correcting seating restricted my breathing and allowed no freedom of movement to the point where if I hadn't had my spare ebay chair to fall back on I would have ended up in a nursing home in a couple of months having lost what small amount of muscle I currently have.
A 2 minute test drive would have saved a lot of wasted time and money. What was even worse was she had been at my house and been shown everything I can currently do for myself and I thought she had understood how important it was to not lose any of that.
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