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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby shirley_hkg » 25 Jun 2018, 08:00

Unnecessary , I guess , as long as you are no longer prompted to input password .

Seller didn't mention menu F at all during conversation .
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby Burgerman » 25 Jun 2018, 09:14

assuming bulk charge rate is in proportion to the C of the battery . givebeer :clap :dance drunk2


I charge 8 to 12A via XLR and 40A or more via anderson on a 70Ah battery, so its not. Ideally it should "stick" at whatever you choose.

But if it was default 0.2 fixed it would be better.
But I dare not change it in case a furio thing happens! :ak47
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby Burgerman » 25 Jun 2018, 09:22

Is it now working?
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby Furio » 25 Jun 2018, 14:49

Hi,

The charger auto calibrated as shirley_hkg adivsed and now perfect. :dance cheers I used it to charge a battery through hyperion( as I was a little worried to use my new PL8) but the current was about 3 amps as the battery was already charged. One thing I noticed, the menu#2 has to be kept at 60V. :fencing

I have dismantled the charger to put in the fancy dress. :clap: Now the LED indicators become obsolete. :o

Thank you again shirley_hkg. :worship

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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby shirley_hkg » 27 Jun 2018, 01:48

3 psu and a case arrived . Going to repack and will send them out this weekend .

@martin007 , do you want me to have it set up for your MK, and how would you like it programmed ?
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby Burgerman » 27 Jun 2018, 03:58

12A, 28.20V, transition 0.1A (0.2A if old or warm or it wont end), 13.5V float... Works well.
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby martin007 » 27 Jun 2018, 12:02

@martin007 , do you want me to have it set up for your MK, and how would you like it programmed ?


8A (old XLR conection), 28.20V, transition 0.1A (0.2A if old or warm or it wont end), 13.5V float.


P.S. When the PSU arrives, I will learn to program it.
I hope to be able to program it.
So difficult can't be ...
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby Burgerman » 27 Jun 2018, 12:12

Easy after the first day of :cussing once the 3 stage is enabled.
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby martin007 » 27 Jun 2018, 12:17

Easy after the first day of :cussing once the 3 stage is enabled.



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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby Burgerman » 27 Jun 2018, 13:22

Then its going to be interesting.
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby shirley_hkg » 27 Jun 2018, 14:50

Burgerman wrote:Then its going to be interesting.


To avoid mushroom cloud over Espana , done it on his PSU already . cheers
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby martin007 » 27 Jun 2018, 17:23

Only 8A (old XLR conection)
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby Burgerman » 27 Jun 2018, 17:55

They are fine at 12A.
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby martin007 » 27 Jun 2018, 22:21

The XLR connector of my (old) powerchair does not hold 12A.
Only 8A.
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby Burgerman » 27 Jun 2018, 22:27

They all do 12A. Every control system, and all XLR type 3 pin connectors. 12A RMS rating on the Neutrix plugs and sockets (XLR).
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby martin007 » 27 Jun 2018, 22:43

The batteries are 30ah.
8A are enough.

With 12A I will not sleep easy.
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby shirley_hkg » 28 Jun 2018, 01:32

martin007 wrote:With 12A I will not sleep easy.


You can reset its value in 5 sec . Sleep well ..
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby Burgerman » 28 Jun 2018, 09:35

The batteries are 30ah.
8A are enough.
With 12A I will not sleep easy.

It will be fine. I charge at 40A as a matter of course daily. More from my van. And I would charge at a higher rate if I could.
The reason to charge at 12A is because the bulk stage ends faster. Leaving more time to allow the CV stage to properly charge the battery in the limited time available. So 12A = better.
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby LROBBINS » 28 Jun 2018, 19:09

On a chair with such small batteries the wiring from the jack to batteries may be marginal for 12A even if the connector could handle it.
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby Burgerman » 28 Jun 2018, 19:37

Its unlikely though. The controller manufacturer would not know what sized battery would be used on different models of chair. There will be stock wiring in the control system, from XLR to to power module as on every chair. And battery cables are the ones connected to the controller/battery. So it should be the same as every chair as far as we could know.

Out of interest, what controller is it? I can try look it up. All the ones like old pilot or old dynamic systems state 12A max, as do all the modern ones like pilot plus, r-net, vr2, etc. So it will say somewhere.

The reason 8 Amps was choosen traditionally as max is because an old style transformer chargers and taper type chargers used years ago, can often supply more than 8A and go up to 11 or 12 when the battery is very low for a few mins. They are just transformer/rectifier setups, so depend on resistance to limit current. Some later ones got more clever and had voltage regulation... But no current limiting other than transformer matching. So the bigger the voltage difference the greater the amps. So an old 8A charger can start at 12A with a very discharged battery, then fall to 8A when it reaches say 24V as it charges to a normal charge level. So theres some safety in the system.
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby LROBBINS » 28 Jun 2018, 21:48

Your comments reassure me. Add to that the fact that unless the batteries have very low internal resistance and are deeply discharged, they won't sit at 12 Amps for very long. As long as the contacts are clean and the wiring is properly done. When Rachi's chair arrived from the factory the XLR jack (as well as other wiring) had cold solder joints and it got hot to the touch even at 6 Amps.
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby Burgerman » 28 Jun 2018, 22:30

Many of mine get hot to the touch. Even the control pod to power module cables get quite warm. Seems normal. They get hot at 8A too. All this warm wires and connectors means that the charger voltage and the battery voltage is quite different. So 12A part ends fast anyway as soon as the charger sees 28.2V, but the battery may be .4V or so less at 12A. Another great reason to use Andersons, thicker shorter cables. More CC time, short CV = Much quicker more complete charge overnight.
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby shirley_hkg » 30 Jun 2018, 09:52

Guys , psu are out this morning. Can track it via item #. cheers
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby Burgerman » 30 Jun 2018, 12:12

I wouldnt mind another one ready to go with mod already installed and tested. And another fancy case. All same as before.

Next time you are ready to order some. No hurry.
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby martin007 » 30 Jun 2018, 12:28

Many thanks shirley_hkg!

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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby shirley_hkg » 30 Jun 2018, 13:38

Burgerman wrote:I wouldnt mind another one ready to go with mod already installed and tested. And another fancy case. All same as before.

Next time you are ready to order some. No hurry.


Will bear in mind . Better combine with other stuff to save postage .

Just bought myself another to modify . drunk2
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby LROBBINS » 30 Jun 2018, 13:45

Thanks Shirley.
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby steves1977uk » 30 Jun 2018, 14:55

I'd like another one too please Shirley :) Same as before (PSU+mod already done)

Thanks,

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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby shirley_hkg » 01 Jul 2018, 03:55

Roger that . :dance
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Re: ZXD2400 modification guild 3Kw 0-60V 0-50A

Postby Dan » 01 Jul 2018, 20:13

Burgerman wrote:I wouldnt mind another one ready to go with mod already installed and tested. And another fancy case. All same as before.

Next time you are ready to order some. No hurry.


Everyone else is getting one!

Shirley_hkg, is there any chance you can get me one ready to go with mod already installed and tested like Burgerman?

I could do with a backup PSU after my last one blew up three months ago and I'm still waiting for it to be fixed. Bought it from http://www.nexusmodels.co.uk/s1500-powe ... arger.html nexusmodels not returning my emails.
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