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S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby vinsen » 16 Mar 2018, 13:53

good afternoon. I can not connect the controller. gives an error message .
http://support.pgdt.com/Online-Diagnost ... Codes.aspx
what control do I need on this controller? I tested the gas pedal with a hall sensor. power 4-5 volts. I tested a resistor of 100 KOm. Does not work . I mapped the type of potentiometer 0-3 . Does not work ......

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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby Burgerman » 16 Mar 2018, 13:58

10k potentiometer. Connect ends to forwards and reverse. Connect wiper to centre.
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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby vinsen » 16 Mar 2018, 14:02

I'll try. 10к
Can you draw on the diagram where to connect? Back and forth ? At me now it is connected only FORWARD.

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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby firehopper » 16 Mar 2018, 14:49

vinsen wrote:good afternoon. I can not connect the controller. gives an error message .
http://support.pgdt.com/Online-Diagnost ... Codes.aspx
what control do I need on this controller? I tested the gas pedal with a hall sensor. power 4-5 volts. I tested a resistor of 100 KOm. Does not work . I mapped the type of potentiometer 0-3 . Does not work ......

https://youtu.be/MWyq7KLMYMY

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its pretty clear where to put it in this last diagram in your first post. using a 10 K pot, I'm not giving pin numbers due to the fact I dont know how that connector is labeled. but looking at your last post, it appears you dont have a wire connected to that pin. you have red and black. red goes to one end of the pot, black to the center connection. and the other end of the pot would infact go to the spot below the black wire aka reverse.
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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby woodygb » 16 Mar 2018, 18:27

Use the MOBILITY program rather than the industrial.

Program the throttle type as Wig-wag.

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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby vinsen » 16 Mar 2018, 20:06

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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby Burgerman » 16 Mar 2018, 20:24

Yes.
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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby vinsen » 16 Mar 2018, 20:51

tell me where to buy this Throttle ? Ebay ? Analog ?
wat 10kom ???
This 5kom -
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https://ru.aliexpress.com/item/RVQ24YS0 ... 56148.html
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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby woodygb » 16 Mar 2018, 20:58

CHEAP WAY TO TEST.

Joystick Potentiometers 10K 20% 60°

E.G.

https://www.rapidonline.com/joystick-po ... eg--526055

NOTE:- That the throttle pots fitted to scooters have a 60 degree throw.
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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby Burgerman » 16 Mar 2018, 20:59

5k will work. 20k will work. You put the + at one end, the - at the other end. The centre then divides this voltage. So its not important the actual kohm.

It will not start up, and will give error, unless it sees a mid voltage between + and - on the throttle wire.
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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby vinsen » 16 Mar 2018, 21:06

I'll buy 5 and 10 to. I'll try. Then I will inform you later. Many thanks !
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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby Burgerman » 16 Mar 2018, 21:12

If voltage is 0v and 3.800V then it will start when it sees 1.900v at the centre pin, only. + or - around 3mv. Or error!
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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby woodygb » 16 Mar 2018, 21:14

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NO .

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The voltage on pin 1 varies.

E.G. IF PIN 8= 0V & PIN 2 = 5V

PIN 1 0V - 2.5V = REVERSE ............ 0V being the fastest reverse speed.
PIN 1 2.5V = OFF / NEUTRAL
PIN 1 2.5V - 5V = FORWARD ................ 5v being the fastest forward speed
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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby vinsen » 01 Apr 2018, 13:13

Error ..... 7LED.
Variable potentiometer 10 Ком

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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby woodygb » 01 Apr 2018, 19:36

A throttle trip is indicated. Make sure that the throttle is in the neutral position before switching on the scooter.


The 10k potentiometer is not set correctly it MUST be set at the middle when you turn on.

Set as 5k from Pin 1 to 8 AND 5k from Pin 2 to 8...so that the voltage on pin 2 = 2.5v THEN turn ON the S-Drive.
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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby woodygb » 01 Apr 2018, 19:54

MISTAKE.

Set as 5k from Pin 1 to 8 AND 5k from Pin 2 to 1...so that the voltage on pin 1 = 2.5v THEN turn ON the S-Drive.

Throttle type 1 = Wig Wag

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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby vinsen » 01 Apr 2018, 20:37

banghead
I found 5ком . turn on the power LED often flashes and then after a minute two gives an error of 7 flashes.


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Mobility Programmer Man Service

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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby woodygb » 01 Apr 2018, 22:47

It's very simple ...CONNECT THE WIRES CORRECTLY.

Select Wig Wag in programming.

Make center voltage = 2.5v.... THEN press ON.


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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby woodygb » 01 Apr 2018, 22:55

A spring makes the potentiometer return to center on the Wig Wag throttle....so it is 2.5v OFF / NEUTRAL at start up.

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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby Scooterman » 02 Apr 2018, 00:15

woodygb wrote:A spring makes the potentiometer return to center on the Wig Wag throttle

I have wig-wag on both my scooters.

Great fwd/rev throttle imho.
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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby vinsen » 02 Apr 2018, 10:51

Removed the wires. Tester exhibited 2.5 in. Error..... czy
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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby Burgerman » 02 Apr 2018, 10:53

Its not looking for 2.500V but the same voltage as the REFERENCE voltage.

Which should be half your measured 4.94V so (2.470v). But it may not be.

Measure the reference voltage, which may be higher or lower than this, and set it the same.
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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby woodygb » 02 Apr 2018, 16:16

Have you programmed the throttle type as WIG WAG ?
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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby vinsen » 02 Apr 2018, 19:11

Yes - programmed the throttle type as WIG WAG - 1
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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby woodygb » 03 Apr 2018, 00:31

0E08 Throttle Wiper Error

This occurs when the controller detects an error with the Throttle Wiper. The Throttle Wiper input is located on pin 1 of
the 14-way Tiller Connector. Check the throttle potentiometer, programming, connectors and relevant wiring to the
controller.
If the trip is still present after the potentiometer, programming, connectors and wiring have been checked, the controller
may be defective. Refer to Servicing Of Defective Units.

note:- You MUST have the potentiometer set @ 2.5v WHEN you turn the controller ON.
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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby Burgerman » 03 Apr 2018, 01:57

Are you sure?

I have my OMNI PLUS olde worlde RC interface set to 2.62v on each channel neutral as this is the voltage on the reference voltage pin. And that works. If set to 2.50v it gives a joystick centre error on startup. And I suspect thats why I dont have the RC interface working on the IOM yet too. I could well be wrong. But measuring the ground to ref pin may be what is required here.
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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby woodygb » 03 Apr 2018, 02:07

Unfortunately there is NO reference voltage on the S-drive.
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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby Burgerman » 03 Apr 2018, 02:35

Ah...
How about calibrate?

That exists on the OMNI but not on the IOM... Even though the instructions say to calibrate!

What is pot low? How does it differ from ground? And reverse?
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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby Burgerman » 03 Apr 2018, 02:40

Ah...
How about calibrate?

That exists on the OMNI but not on the IOM... Even though the instructions say to calibrate!

What is pot low? How does it differ from ground? And reverse?

If the pot ends are pot high, pot low, then a 5 or 10k resistor may be included inside the power module. So as to detect an error/disconnected wire. In which case the value of the pot may become important and the pull up/down resistor on the wiper input may move the neutral point significantly from 2.50v
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Re: S-Drive 7 flash error

Postby vinsen » 03 Apr 2018, 14:33

woodygb wrote:0E08 Throttle Wiper Error

This occurs when the controller detects an error with the Throttle Wiper. The Throttle Wiper input is located on pin 1 of
the 14-way Tiller Connector. Check the throttle potentiometer, programming, connectors and relevant wiring to the
controller.
If the trip is still present after the potentiometer, programming, connectors and wiring have been checked, the controller
may be defective. Refer to Servicing Of Defective Units.

note:- You MUST have the potentiometer set @ 2.5v WHEN you turn the controller ON.



I do not know what to do. My resistor -
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The controller is new. 0 hours. I bought it on Ebey.
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