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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby hotwheels_75 » 24 Jul 2018, 21:42

No luck connecting to OEM. Sigh. Oh well was worth a shot. I can see the OEM option but it just won’t connect. The older version won’t connect at all. (USB CAN Adapter: Unable to reset USB adapter”

Burgerman wrote:Its really a Curtis instruments programmer and controller, rebranded for pride who dont make controllers but love us to think they do. The curtis software is available and it MAY connect. Some say it does. Others say no. Depends on versions I think. The cable you have to make.


Will the homemade cable you mention at least let me connect to the dealer software?
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby Burgerman » 24 Jul 2018, 22:02

Prides version maybe.
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby woodygb » 25 Jul 2018, 10:26

No luck connecting to OEM. Sigh. Oh well was worth a shot. I can see the OEM option but it just won’t connect. The older version won’t connect at all. (USB CAN Adapter: Unable to reset USB adapter”


http://www.nocoev.com/curtis/Software%201314-4401/

You will need to buy a Chinese A1 CAN - USB adapter and alter / add some files to make CAN BUS work.... assuming that your controller is CAN-BUS .

The latest Curtis software is available plus a hack for the registry.
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby hotwheels_75 » 25 Jul 2018, 15:21

woodygb wrote:
http://www.nocoev.com/curtis/Software%201314-4401/

You will need to buy a Chinese A1 CAN - USB adapter and alter / add some files to make CAN BUS work.... assuming that your controller is CAN-BUS .

The latest Curtis software is available plus a hack for the registry.


Thanks for the info woody. I’ll give that a try next chance I get.

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This is the cable that will connect to the dealer software. Will the Chinese adapter do the same thing?
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby woodygb » 25 Jul 2018, 15:52

That is a Sontheim CANUSBlight rebadged as Curtis ...you might have noticed the Sontheim software being installed.

https://www.sontheim-industrie-elektron ... Blight.jpg

https://www.sontheim-industrie-elektron ... nterfaces/


You should be able to obtain OEM level with the early 1314 OEM software that I linked to... or the later 1314 software with a simple registry hack..

Use that interface ...there should be no need for the Chinese version.
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby hotwheels_75 » 25 Jul 2018, 16:40

I did notice the Sontheim software! This is great info to know.

So is it possible to buy a CANUSBlight and wire the correct plug to fit my joystick and have it work with the software?

I don’t own the one I have and have to give it back, before I’m done testing and tweaking.

I’m going to try the registry hack now.
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby hotwheels_75 » 25 Jul 2018, 17:21

Is the registry hack the one included with the older software? I applied that one, but so far still no luck.
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby woodygb » 25 Jul 2018, 17:34

The earlier OEM 1314 SOFTWARE that I linked to should work as is ...

The later software requires a registry hack ...see p.m.
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby hotwheels_75 » 14 Sep 2018, 01:45

Not sure if this has been discussed elsewhere but a few questions.

Will different brand controllers and modules “Talk” to other brand hardware... motors, actuators etc.?

For example, my quantum Rival. Could I swap out the joystick, controller and seat module and replace them with R-net stuff that I can fully program? I realize some rewiring and plug replacement is likely required, but will they actually communicate with each other if I did all that?

Same with taking invacare seating and installing it on my project chair which is old school pride with pilot+
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby Burgerman » 14 Sep 2018, 03:01

Yes.Actuators, sensors, microswitches, motors are all just motors. And switches.

But it will get complicated very fast, and require you to understand a lot of tech stuff. All available in PDF docs.
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby hotwheels_75 » 18 Sep 2018, 22:14

That’s what I thought, but you never know with these companies… I wouldn’t put it past them to install a microchip that identifies the hardware as a specific brand and the controller will only talk to that brand. Like the newer printer ink cartridges.

I assume those PDFs and documents are available?

What kind of complications are we talking?
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby Burgerman » 18 Sep 2018, 22:47

Inputs, resistors, programming, etc. All very easy if you start from scratch, know what you want, understand the manuals etc. And impossible if not.
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby FelipeOliveira » 21 Feb 2020, 20:01

good afternoon. could someone tell me what it means, and what should i do? the Tilt function does not work
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby woodygb » 21 Feb 2020, 20:59

FelipeOliveira wrote:good afternoon. could someone tell me what it means, and what should i do? the Tilt function does not work


Indr_Avg = INDOOR


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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby FelipeOliveira » 22 Feb 2020, 00:36

woodygb wrote:
FelipeOliveira wrote:good afternoon. could someone tell me what it means, and what should i do? the Tilt function does not work


Indr_Avg = INDOOR


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Good NOIte Wood
how much time .....
Thanks for the feedback ....
but to perform this procedure do I need the programmer? Or is it possible to perform on the joystick without a programmer?
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby woodygb » 22 Feb 2020, 01:15

No idea about the Invacare MK6...Sorry
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby woodygb » 22 Feb 2020, 01:21

You could ...I understand make your own programming card.
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby FelipeOliveira » 23 Feb 2020, 22:33

good afternoon . I managed to get the memory card recognized. I have now identified a problem with the electronic board of the smart cg Tilt. But I can't see the component reference. would anyone have one to check and inform me? Posição na placa é Z20. Parece ser um zenner

or even . if you change the analog p configuration or replace it with a limit switch system. it could be an alternative ... of course changing the parameters ..
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby daunjan » 24 Feb 2020, 08:16

Hey anybody know where to get r-net dongle to pc so can mod chair setup? anyone got cheap spare ship nz?
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

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They are never cheap...
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby woodygb » 25 Feb 2020, 09:59

FelipeOliveira wrote:good afternoon . I managed to get the memory card recognized. I have now identified a problem with the electronic board of the smart cg Tilt. But I can't see the component reference. would anyone have one to check and inform me? Posição na placa é Z20. Parece ser um zenner

or even . if you change the analog p configuration or replace it with a limit switch system. it could be an alternative ... of course changing the parameters ..


The logo IS a backward C and ¦¦ ... Anyone recognise this logo or can identify it from the code ... ?

The location on the board is designated as Z20 and it appears to be in parallel with a 220uf cap and resistor.

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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby Burgerman » 25 Feb 2020, 10:57

No idea what than is.
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby Irving » 25 Feb 2020, 13:48

Best I can come up with is a 12v 300mW zener. 810 is date code = 08/2010. Can't ID manufacturer tho.
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby woodygb » 25 Feb 2020, 14:29

So ...possibly a PZU12BA ?
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Re: Controller/Electronics options

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Re: Controller/Electronics options

Postby Irving » 25 Feb 2020, 14:48

woodygb wrote:So ...possibly a PZU12BA ?


Yeah, only thing I could find that fits.... but need to check if its a SOD323 package, can't tell from the pics.

The reverse isn't necessarily so - a 12V 5% 300mW (40W peak reverse pulse) SOD323 diode could be marked very differently.
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