Woman in Clacton Losing Her Powerchair

[mgwmgw]

According to https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=937822169729028&set=a.298007347043850.1073741826.100005037613152&type=3&theater a woman without legs living in a Care Home in Clacton (UK, I assume) is having her power chair taken away. I have no way to verify what is true, and I do not fully understand the UK system which causes this decision, and I do not have current information about whether a replacement for her chair has been found, but does anyone here who lives near this woman have a power chair that they no longer want which she could use?

[Burgerman]

DLA is being removed from everyone. And replaced with PIP. Anyone without legs is entitled to it instead. And if she used it to buy a chair, its heres. There isnt anyone that can "take it away"...

Even the wheelchair services, that will provide one free, never take a chair back off anyone as far as I can tell. Unless you ask them to.

So the story is a little fishy. Someone trying to scam people?

PIP info site:

With the exception of those people who have two amputated legs (either above or below knee) - who will automatically qualify for the enhanced rate mobility allowance (but NOT the daily living allowance as they will have to be assessed the same as everyone else ) - all other claimants wIll be assessed on the effect their disability or condition has on their day to day lives. It is the effect of the disability, NOT the disability itself that counts. PIP is nothing like DLA. It does not assume a certain level of disability according to the claimant's condition - it is not interested in the disability itself, but instead assesses the impact of the disability or condition on the claimants' ability to carry out a range of activities which would be encountered in everyday life. This is designed to give an overall idea of how much of a barrier the claimants' condition presents to life as experienced by people without disability.

One possible exception. Because she is moving to a care home, she may not be entitled to some benefits. The mbility allowance or component, may be one of those? Nope!

If you get any of the benefits listed below, the amount you get for yourself will not change if you live in a care home.

However, if you get any extra money in the benefit for another person, for example for a child or your partner, it is important for you to get advice about your situation. If you have a partner, it may be better for them to make their own claim for a benefit. You can use our Find an Adviser tool to find a local adviser.

Basic State Pension

New State Pension

Incapacity Benefit

Widow’s Pension

Widowed Parent’s Allowance

Industrial Injuries Disablement Benefit

Statutory Maternity Pay

Maternity Allowance

Statutory Sick Pay

Employment and Support Allowance (though the amount may change)

The mobility component of Disability Living Allowance (DLA) or Personal Independence Payment.

So, its very suspect!

[Dan]

It looks like shes losing just the care component of her disability living allowance because shes moving into a care home. Shes only 62.

"If your care homes fees are paid in full or part by the local authority, National Health Service (NHS) or other public funds, payment of Disability Living Allowance (DLA) care component, Personal Independence Payment (PIP) daily living component or Attendance Allowance (AA) will stop after you have been in a care home ..."

Maybe she needed all the DLA money to rent a wheelchair. A Invacare Storm 4 X-plore costs £54.39 a WEEK to rent

[Burgerman]

She has no need. WCS will provide for free if she requires one. Whats the alternative? Crawl?

Shes not in a xplore at 54 pounds a week though.
Shes is shown in a cheap basic motorised deck chair thats 5 or 6 times cheaper. So about 10 a week... Or buy outright for 1000 to 1400 hundred new. And renting is always more expensive. Esp when she can have a free one!
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid ... =3&theater

[Dan]

Thats what I was thinking. She would be a priority case too.

Anyway I think she would still get about £240 a month DLA without the care component.

Mobility component Weekly rate Level of help you need
Lower £22.65 Guidance or supervision outdoors
Higher £59.75 You have any other, more severe, walking difficulty

[Burgerman]

And of course "they" can only take it by tipping her out on to the floor! Which will never happen.

[Burgerman]

ABSOLUTELY DISGUSTED !!!!!!!!
My 62 year old Sister lives in a Care Home in Clacton and has just had her disability living allowance cancelled. She has no lower limbs (legs) and uses the money she gets to pay for a motorised wheelchair to get her about.

Everyone is being moved to PIP now. Esp if theres a change of circumstance, or change, or new claim. She is garanteed to be eligible with no legs for the mobility part that would pay for a chair, car or whatever. And in any case the wheelchair services will provide one for FREE. Or the money so SHE can.

The local authority have said they are taking it back because she isn't entitled to it under the new law because of where she lives.

She says SHE PAYS for it, and so that has zero to do with the local authority. The local authority dont provide chairs. The NHS do, FREE OF CHARGE!

So it all makes no sense. Its someone thats either confused or after donations.

TYPICAL Wheelchair Services wording:

We have a waiting room and assessment area where our wheelchair therapist and rehabilitation engineer see people to discuss their needs and make an assessment for the appropriate equipment. We sometimes also assess people at their home, school, college or residential/nursing home.

We have a stock of assessment chairs and cushions to enable people to try the equipment prior to provision. Some people will require specially made equipment and this will be measured for and for special seating we may take a cast of a person’s shape.

We also have an FSA (Force Sensory Array) pressure monitor to assess the pressure a person exerts on a chair in sitting. This means that, for people who have a high risk of developing pressure sores, we can accurately assess the correct cushion for them.
Criteria for provision of wheelchairs


Wheelchairs will be supplied to clients on a loan basis where the following criteria are met:

The client is registered with a GP in North Lincolnshire/North East Lincolnshire
Each person has been assessed by their doctor or an accredited professional as having a long-term mobility need, (ie more than six months except for the terminally ill)
The client will be able to derive significant improvement in mobility through the use of a wheelchair
Clients must be within the weight limit stated in the manufacturer’s details for a specified chair.

Assessments will take into account the rehabilitation process. Normally only one wheelchair will be provided for use in all environments. Wheelchairs will not be provided for those people who are independently mobile around their home environment but who use a wheelchair outdoors for occasional/social use.

[ICEUK]

I expect its a load of bs much like the rest of fb but if she cant safely operate a wc then they could prevent her i suppose.

[Burgerman]

I dont do:
Facebook, or any other social media, its all a waste of time.

Also dont do any of the following at any time:
answerphones
babies
muslims
immigrants
religous nuts
woo woo of any kind
illogical people
officious types
holier than thou types
botched work
cheap product (buy quality, its ceaper)
queing (lines to the US people)
socialism in any form
liberalism
political correctness
adverts (I see NONE on the internet, get adblock plus, free!)
TV dont have one, dont miss it, and no ads! Other than a 55 inch OLED for a PC monitor!
curley wurly stuff
ornaments
landlines
brussel sprouts
face free food? (weeds!)
forms
jobsworths
ugly women
cold weather
warm
stock powerchairs
condesention
assessements - I asses myself after I asses them.
waiting - not happening!
telephone merry go rounds
cigarettes
speed limits - I never understood them. Banned 9 times, some greif in the US involving road blocks and guns, and more points than you can imagine.
and insurance for anything other than the car because the law makes me do it...
credit
credit cards - never borrowed in my life. Stupidity!
doctors that dont speak english. I refuse.
doctors that beleve the creation myth. RUN AWAY!

EDIT
All ball games
Smart phones
Gravity.

[greybeard]

Haha! Is your list of what you DO do shorter or longer than that one?

I don't *do* some of the things on your list (willingly) myself, but I guarantee that you have more engrossing interests than the average guy. Certainly more than me or anyone I know.

[Burgerman]

My do list is definitely shorter!

[ex-Gooserider]

I don't do credit card INTEREST, but I do use credit CARDS.... Don't know how they do stuff in the UK, but in the US, most cards don't charge interest if you pay the balance in full before the due date every month...

In addition most cards themselves have no fees.

So my car insurance, gas, and various other expenses get paid by plastic, and I get a bill once a month with a biggish amount on it... I then take the cash down to the local department store (I chose the card because I could pay cash locally, in person) and pay it off...

Saves me having to worry about carrying as much cash the rest of the month, makes online shopping easier (Paypal shows up on the card...) and so on... Only downside is that my purchases can be tracked - but only if I use the card, cash still works if I want to use it... And it doesn't cost me anything....

ex-Gooserider

[Burgerman]

I do that with cards too, as purchases are insured etc. And its all paid before they get to charge interest.

I might add that I got a lesson from my bank manager about the way everything was going digital, pay by phone, card, online, electronic transfer etc and the fact that I go into the bank every few months and want a couple of thousand out in folding tokens is both a nusance and old fashioned.

Oh how I laughed when my banks electronic systems collapsed and they were out of action for weeks. And the MD of the bank called into parliment to answer quetions. Bills and wages went unpaid, people were angry. Nothing worked, mothers on TV saying they cant buy food for kids, and huge charges for non payment of bills and unplanned overdrafts that they couldnt control!

NEXT time I went in, ask for 2k cash, and the manager happened to be there. I just smiled! He never said a thing. So I did. I said that this (holding up some real money) doesent go offline for 2 weeks and had been functioning normally as expected...

This is how bad it got. People were getting logged into OTHER PEOPLES bank accounts for almost 2 months, and couldnt control what was going in or coming out or pay anything!

https://www.thesun.co.uk/money/6118658/ ... ed-latest/

[ex-Gooserider]

Exactly - I think it's important to keep at least a few weeks worth of cash on hand in case of issues...

I also think it is important to have the card used for purchases NOT have any connection to your bank account - don't ever use that bank debit card for anything other than possibly getting cash out of an ATM....

If you have a debit card, the bank pays out the cash right away - if there is a dispute, you have to convince them to get it back.... How much do you think they are going to care and go to bat for you? After all it isn't THEIR money in question...

NEVER link your bank account to PayPal or other such services....

If you ever have a dispute about a payment, and your bank account is linked, you gave Paypal permission to pull the payment out of your account.... See above....

OTOH, if you have a card that doesn't connect to your bank, then any amounts in a dispute came out of the CARD's wallet, until they have convinced you that the charge is legitimate - which gives them a lot more incentive to be on your side.... If it really comes down to battle royal, they can't force you to pay short of going to court... (obviously they can cancel your account and put nasty things in your credit report first, but....)