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Re: PINNED - PROGRAMMING - Make it steer! R-Net + others

Postby expresso » 30 Jan 2021, 19:46

it looks like you have to first change the 70 number to 8 and then you can add 8 to the next line

you need the min to be the same or less than the max value -

you can put them both to 8 -- just do the Min. first -
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Postby Burgerman » 30 Jan 2021, 19:50

Yes you need to lower them in the opposite order. The system wont allow a minimum setting to be higher than a maximum setting.
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Postby Davey » 31 Jan 2021, 19:14

DOH! Thanks!
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Postby Roadrunner » 15 Mar 2021, 13:18

Hi
Is there anyone who knows anything about assigning/programming the screen buttons on the JSM2?
As far as I know this is only possible on Sunrise chairs (because of a patent for assignable buttons).
I have access to an oem dongle, the oem Generic programmer software 6.1.0, the Sunrise dealer version 6.4.1 and the Permobil dealer version 6.1.5 but I still can't find it.
Maybe I will need the oem versions of either Sunrise or Permobil?
Any help will be appreciated.
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Postby rover220 » 15 Mar 2021, 13:28

Yes sunrise only. What chair are you trying it on?
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Postby Roadrunner » 15 Mar 2021, 13:31

A danish TA.
Do you know it is possible if I could get the Sunrise oem software?
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Postby Burgerman » 15 Mar 2021, 13:57

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Postby Roadrunner » 15 Mar 2021, 14:15

Thanks :dance
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Postby Roadrunner » 18 Mar 2021, 10:40

Still can't access assignable buttons. They doesn't show in the programmer.
Anyone know if it has to do with the dongle/firmware in the power module or perhaps the joystick?
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Postby rover220 » 18 Mar 2021, 11:59

Roadrunner wrote:Still can't access assignable buttons. They doesn't show in the programmer.
Anyone know if it has to do with the dongle/firmware in the power module or perhaps the joystick?


itll be firmware in the power module.

without an original sunrise power module you are very unlikely to get it working.
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Postby Roadrunner » 18 Mar 2021, 13:47

Hmmm - thought so :(
How about the Permobil Softkeys - same issue or is there a workaround whith them?
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Postby Burgerman » 18 Mar 2021, 13:55

Permobil do their own thing. They even have special joystick controllers made cheaper with smaller less bright screen, buttons missing etc. So depending on what you have the firmware in the joystick is likely to be different to the standard generic stuff too. They make their own gyros and stability and seating components too. So with permobil its all a matter of luck. Rover reports that some wont allow any programming from a standard R-Net programmer.
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Postby rover220 » 18 Mar 2021, 14:01

Burgerman wrote:. Rover reports that some wont allow any programming from a standard R-Net programmer.


only based on me trying on 2 different chairs using the generic software.
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Postby Burgerman » 18 Mar 2021, 19:25

But OEM level permobil software is not available. So what else would you use?
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Postby rover220 » 18 Mar 2021, 19:49

Burgerman wrote:But OEM level permobil software is not available. So what else would you use?


It is but no chance of getting.
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Postby Roadrunner » 18 Mar 2021, 20:59

Thanks for your time and help.
This is what I did today.
Opened a Sunrise config file (Salsa-M2) with the Sunrise oem programmer.
In view - dropdown menu - show checkboxes - marked what I wanted to use (assign buttons and softkeys) and did the configuration i wanted.
Saved the file as a subset file (rnss).
Opened it in the generic oem programmer and wrote to controller.
Now there´s the extra settings on the jsm2 that I choose!

A little workaround but it works :)
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Re: PINNED - PROGRAMMING - Make it steer! R-Net + others

Postby rover220 » 18 Mar 2021, 21:22

Roadrunner wrote:Thanks for your time and help.
This is what I did today.
Opened a Sunrise config file (Salsa-M2) with the Sunrise oem programmer.
In view - dropdown menu - show checkboxes - marked what I wanted to use (assign buttons and softkeys) and did the configuration i wanted.
Saved the file as a subset file (rnss).
Opened it in the generic oem programmer and wrote to controller.
Now there´s the extra settings on the jsm2 that I choose!

A little workaround but it works :)


That's a cracking work around. Does it work OK then on a non sunrise chair?
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Postby Roadrunner » 18 Mar 2021, 21:26

Yes !
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Postby rover220 » 18 Mar 2021, 21:40

Roadrunner wrote:Yes !


Top marks.
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Re: PINNED - PROGRAMMING - Make it steer! R-Net + others

Postby rover220 » 20 Mar 2021, 16:07

Roadrunner wrote:Thanks for your time and help.
This is what I did today.
Opened a Sunrise config file (Salsa-M2) with the Sunrise oem programmer.
In view - dropdown menu - show checkboxes - marked what I wanted to use (assign buttons and softkeys) and did the configuration i wanted.
Saved the file as a subset file (rnss).
Opened it in the generic oem programmer and wrote to controller.
Now there´s the extra settings on the jsm2 that I choose!

A little workaround but it works :)


Hi

Is that exactly ad you have done to get it to work? I've had a play and can't crack it on the chair I have here.

Thanks
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Postby Roadrunner » 20 Mar 2021, 17:42

Yes this was what i did.
In the sunrise oem - opened the Salsa.
View - show checkboxes.
Choose everything in the far left (from file description to IDevice2).
Then deselected everything but the controls.
Then in controls/assign buttons - i choose what i wanted to - and in softkeys i choose to enable softkeys and the function of the softkeys (first and second function).
Then i saved as a subset file - closed sunrise oem - opened with generic oem - opened the subset file and wrote to controller.
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Postby Roadrunner » 20 Mar 2021, 17:47

Here´s what it looks like.
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Re: PINNED - PROGRAMMING - Make it steer! R-Net + others

Postby rover220 » 21 Mar 2021, 07:54

Roadrunner wrote:Yes this was what i did.
In the sunrise oem - opened the Salsa.
View - show checkboxes.
Choose everything in the far left (from file description to IDevice2).
Then deselected everything but the controls.
Then in controls/assign buttons - i choose what i wanted to - and in softkeys i choose to enable softkeys and the function of the softkeys (first and second function).
Then i saved as a subset file - closed sunrise oem - opened with generic oem - opened the subset file and wrote to controller.



odd, will have another play. once i have made the rnss the oem generic software opens it but does not display anything.
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Postby Burgerman » 21 Mar 2021, 11:12

Are we talking permobil? Probably different firmware. They seem to love to have different versions and non compatible ones.
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Postby rover220 » 21 Mar 2021, 11:15

Burgerman wrote:Are we talking permobil? Probably different firmware. They seem to love to have different versions and non compatible ones.


No not permobil.
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Postby Burgerman » 21 Mar 2021, 11:33

Ah, danish TA?

Never saw one even! Other than pictures. Should be possible though I would expect? Unless they do "funny" permobil like stuff and mess with firmware that only allows permobil OEM versions that we and their own techs cannot access.
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Postby rover220 » 21 Mar 2021, 13:16

Burgerman wrote:Ah, danish TA?

Never saw one even! Other than pictures. Should be possible though I would expect? Unless they do "funny" permobil like stuff and mess with firmware that only allows permobil OEM versions that we and their own techs cannot access.


Nope, paravan.
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Postby steves1977uk » 21 Mar 2021, 13:30

That pod looks like a standard PG CJSM2, not the smaller Permobil style.

Also I'll have to try adding the missing side options to one of my spare 120A PM's since I have a few. Although I think the generic software don't have the missing settings in its data files which is probably why they're not shown.

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Postby rover220 » 21 Mar 2021, 16:34

Got the 4 soft keys to work but what I really want is true assignable buttons sorting.
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Postby rover220 » 21 Mar 2021, 18:25

rover220 wrote:Got the 4 soft keys to work but what I really want is true assignable buttons sorting.


Im sure that the remainder if what I need/want is down to module firmware for the PM.

May pick up a cheap sunrise power module from ebay to try.
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