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Re: Quickie 646 / 636 Motor Change

Postby martin007 » 23 Aug 2018, 18:49

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Re: Quickie 646 / 636 Motor Change

Postby Burgerman » 23 Aug 2018, 19:29

So in spain, no free wheelchairs, care or money if you are out of work?
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Re: Quickie 646 / 636 Motor Change

Postby martin007 » 23 Aug 2018, 20:33

So in spain, no free wheelchairs?



Currently in Spain there is no money to repair wheelchairs.


care or money if you are out of work?


500€ / month x 12 months

Do you think that in Spain you can live with € 500?
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Re: Quickie 646 / 636 Motor Change

Postby Burgerman » 23 Aug 2018, 21:18

No.
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Re: Quickie 646 / 636 Motor Change

Postby martin007 » 23 Aug 2018, 21:26

I survive thanks to my parents.
Life is hard and society looks the other way.
My illness is from birth.
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Re: Quickie 646 / 636 Motor Change

Postby Burgerman » 23 Aug 2018, 21:38

Its a shame. Your society cannot afford decent care and support for the disabled. Lets not mention the Euro, the EU, and the fact that on top of that you have a new socialist presedente... Because he will make your country bankrupt in a decade. Like venuzuala. All of this hasnt helped you.

If you lived in the UK, in a 2 bedroom house, with no ability to do any sensible outside work, and as disabled as me, which you seem to be then you would get approx 690 euros per WEEK to support yourself.

I dont get quite as much as that because I was stupid enough to work hard and buy and pay for my own house before I was disabled. So since its paid for they dont help. They would pay mortgage interest or rent if not... :cussing

And free powerchairs, although that can be a fight to get something decent. And free medical care, drugs, equipment like electric beds, hoists, housing adaptations like wet rooms, wider doors, or bigger rooms, adapted kitchens etc. dentistry, eye tests, etc. And you get care hours (money) to allow you to employ a carer or two. To dress and undress, clean house, whatever you need to live independently. And help you get out and about if needed, etc. That can be a lot of help, like live in, or just a little depending on need. Your family should not have to do that. If they do, they can be paid as well.

As long as you have no other income and as long as you dont have 1000s in the bank.
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Re: Quickie 646 / 636 Motor Change

Postby martin007 » 23 Aug 2018, 21:44

Because he will make your country bankrupt in a decade.


Before a decade.
Spain is already technically bankrupt.
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Re: Quickie 646 / 636 Motor Change

Postby Burgerman » 23 Aug 2018, 21:57

Well maybe faster. Venuzuala are now using bank notes in place of toilet paper, since you need more notes to buy a roll, than the paper in the notes...
And thats if you can find one. Most of the shops are now empty. Theres almost no food. No fuel. No heat, hospitals have staff but no drugs, or other supplies. People are walking out across the borders in search of food. 7 million so far went to other countries on foot! Many pets have been eaten. ZOO animals eaten too. Water supplies stopped. Only things supermarkets have is bottled water in exchange for wheelbarrows full of banknotes.

And instead of fixing the problem the socialist government have started using deadly force on civillian protesters. Thats right, like all socialist colapsing systems, they start killing people. Its all going exactly as I expected when our stupid marxist polititian Corbyn anounced how marvelous socialism was going to be in the new venuzuala!

You dont know what bankrupt means yet.

THIS is the cost of a toilet roll a couple of weeks ago in venuzuala. Seriously.
And its visibly increasing day by day. 1 million percent inflation by xmas! :clap So its about 3x this by now!

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Re: Quickie 646 / 636 Motor Change

Postby martin007 » 23 Aug 2018, 22:36

You dont know what bankrupt means yet.


Spain is not far away...
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Re: Quickie 646 / 636 Motor Change

Postby Burgerman » 24 Aug 2018, 00:29

The spanish economy is improving with 3% GDP and so doing quite well. Improving or growing faster than most countries around the world and in europe. Or it was in april. It will continue this way or improve initially for about 4 to 5 years, then gradually get worse. After 10 years, you will be headed the wrong way. It took 2 socialist governments and 20 years to bankrupt venuzuala completely, so you have plenty of time to get rid of him yet!

Socialism usually starts off OK, and causes stimulated growth, spending etc. It takes a decade before the taxation, and wealth redistribution, and the centralised control, and nationalised industries to begin the inevitable collapse into desperation and poverty. They always run out of other peoples money...

Also your gov is mixed, so he doesent have full control (yet) so its harder to do too much damage too fast...

https://www.ft.com/content/19df28e6-43a ... ac3a6482fd
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Re: Quickie 646 / 636 Motor Change

Postby martin007 » 24 Aug 2018, 00:40

You are very optimistic.
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Re: Quickie 646 / 636 Motor Change

Postby Burgerman » 24 Aug 2018, 00:55

The only downside is that I see the EU and its common currency as a stupid idea. The EU takes over the real control of your country and limits what you can control. And its very undemocratic, and overly liberal, and very left/socialist by its very nature. Worse its unelected controlling beaurocrats are hell bent on expanding and absorbing ever more poor countries. They want and push endlessely like a creeping desease for a common socialist centrally controlled superstate with centralised control over everything. A new soviet style block... Yes the socialist one that murdered and starved millions, and wend broke.

Most of the people do not want this. But even voting is ignored. They just redo every vote in different ways until they get the "right" result. Hence the rise of all the anti EU and anti immigration, populist governments across the EU. Even trump in the US for similar reasons.

So I see the EU will inevitably collapse, or change into something very different over the next decade. As it stands, we are leaving, and theres a bunch of other countries and parties on the rise across the EU with very anti EU ideas... And the Euro is no good across both rich and poor countries. It does not allow the poorer countries to devalue their currency to help exports to be able to compete for eg. So places like greece and others cannot compete in the world. So ed up borrowing and paying interest to survive. And all the richer countries like UK, Gemany, france, italy are propping up all the poorer countries. It will all end in tears. Because the people working in the UK or Germany do not see why they should be paying to support or prop up the EU. And dont want to be told what to do.

Incidentally norway, iceland and switzerland are the 3 richest countries in europe per capita. And those are not in the EU. Coincidence? No its not.
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Re: Quickie 646 / 636 Motor Change

Postby ex-Gooserider » 28 Aug 2018, 02:47

I don't know what is on the Salsa, but the F-55 and the 6x6 chairs use TOTALLY different motors.... Or at least the gearboxes (which is more important since that's what bolts to the rest of the chair...)

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Burgerman wrote:I can get a price for linix 6 or 8.5 mph. As fitted to a salsa. Or many other chairs.

I will enquire tomorrow... But since they give you them free why worry?

Tom Kilmore uses the AMT motors, so probably has a cheap source. And you liked those! I paid about 300 each for those but 7 years ago.



i would love to know what you can get the same motors for my chair - at what cost - if in fact they are the same ones i am using on my 646se - 8.5 and bolt right in the same motor mount bracket etc, -

i would take two new ones now at those prices your saying is possible there
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Re: Quickie 646 / 636 Motor Change

Postby expresso » 20 Sep 2018, 03:18

Finally got my new motors installed - first ride today - what a huge difference new motors make - the chair felt smooth very fast and quieter

it pulled hard up hills - feels better now then when i first got the chair new - i think now my old motors were pretty much on there way out a long time ago , i just didnt know it - first ride today with the 45ah ADD ON - now total 150ah - chair felt great - very fast -

i will do as BM suggested - and just rebuilt old motors every two years - replace and repeat - so if these new motors last about the same time as the originals
i can then replace them in summer of 2021 - since this year is over now - wont be much more before its too cold for me to ride

will count next summer 2019 and 2020 - then rebuilt and have new motors for summer 2021 - if all goes well --
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Re: Quickie 646 / 636 Motor Change

Postby Burgerman » 20 Sep 2018, 08:49

You see now that just because they still work does not mean they are still good. Motors that are used, rather than sat drinking coffee watching TV, wear out and get very tired. And lose efficiency, magnets go weak etc. After a year or so they are best kept as spares. And replaced before they let you down miles from home.
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Re: Quickie 646 / 636 Motor Change

Postby expresso » 20 Sep 2018, 16:29

YES - they have been worn and tired for a few years i believe before they just gave out - now if i didnt start taking 40 mile rides etc, - and just used the chair like most do - this could have lasted 8 years and not get noticed -

i am starting to pick up on the little changes now as time goes by - now i know better and every two summers - then rebuilt and start fresh motors on the 3rd. to be safe - unless i hardly used the chair - then i can stretch that to every 3 years - will depend how much i use it - but its a big big difference - the chair felt so strong
i dont even recall it feeling this way brand new -

i am happy with it and felt great to ride it again - been sitting for 3 months - i did 32 miles yesterday and i used up about 105ah out of the 150ah - seemed like i used more battery than i recall - - it was the first run in 3 months on this chair - first time with the 45ah ADD ON - so i now i have 150ah total on this chair

speed felt amazing - maybe i got used to the slower chair i was using 8mph - for past 3 months - i feel more relaxed with the slower speed - faster chair i have to be more alert all the time - i lent my 60ah pack to Quickie she took the trip with me - she got i think 24 to 26 miles on her chair with the 60ah pack -

i am charging just the 60ah pack - it was showing 3.2V and pack 25.7V - she had few more miles for sure - with the diode - she may have been able to make the whole trip at 32 Miles i think - to be safe - she took a cab one way up to the Bridge first and i met her there - then she rode the whole trip with me to the end and all the way back home riding - worked out very well - i wanted to make sure she will make it with the 60ah so one way cab ride to the bridge saved a good 8 to 9 miles for her

using a pride AGM 24 and 60ah pack -
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