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Postby foghornleghorn » 08 Jan 2019, 17:00

Story today that's been on the radio news

Breaking Bad star defends playing disabled character

Bryan Cranston has defended playing a disabled character in his latest film, saying his casting as a man with quadriplegia was "a business decision."

In The Upside, the US actor plays a wheelchair-using billionaire who hires a former criminal, played by comedian Kevin Hart, to be his live-in carer.

"As actors we're asked to play other people," said the Breaking Bad star.

Cranston said the subject was "worthy for debate" and there should be "more opportunities" for disabled actors.

Yet he maintained he was entitled to play characters whose attributes and abilities differed from his own.

"If I, as a straight, older person, and I'm wealthy, I'm very fortunate, does that mean I can't play a person who is not wealthy, does that mean I can't play a homosexual?" he mused.

"I don't know, where does the restriction apply, where is the line for that?" he told the Press Association.

more... https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-46793406


Personally, I think an actor is an actor - they are supposed to be playing characters they aren't the same person as in real life. What's next - you can't portray a murderer unless you go out and kill someone first?

Unfortunately news reporting is getting lazier and lazier to the point where even absolute nonsense from twitter gets reported and printed in mainstream newspapers so I have no idea if it has been actual wheelchair users complaining, or whether any fuss has come from the people who seem to be perpetually offended on behalf of someone else.

Films get funded by people who can see a potential return on their investment. Bryan Cranston is a name to sell a film and get viewers. Nobody is going to invest in a film starring Bob Cripple who is there purely to give authenticity by being unable to do things without assistance.

Give me a part in a film and I might manage to turn up for work often enough to get the production complete by 2050!
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Postby ICEUK » 08 Jan 2019, 17:31

I dont believe for one second they couldnt get a disabled actor to play the role however its a lot easier for the production of the film for him not to be disabled. Call me a cynic but thats my take on it.
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Postby ex-Gooserider » 11 Jan 2019, 08:07

Used to be black actors weren't allowed to act on stages - mostly back in the pre-movie days, so live performances... Instead they would use white actors wearing black makeup (usually exaggerated).....

This was called 'black-face' and these days is considered to be racist and totally unacceptable - I seriously doubt that Mr. Cranston would even consider accepting a role as a black character even if it was offered to him....

Today we have able bodied actors playing disabled people - some refer to this as 'Gimp-Face'

Seems to me that saying Gimp-face is OK, but Black-face is not is more than a bit of a double standard....

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Re: Actors in wheelchairs

Postby mickeymonk » 11 Jan 2019, 15:33

Why is everybody getting their knickers in a twist?

There wasn't all this kerfuffle back in my day when Charles Laughton played Quasimodo. butred
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Postby Burgerman » 11 Jan 2019, 16:24

Dunno. I couldn't give a crap about actors one way or another. Only important to media and other self congratulatory bodies. They are people someone points a camera at. Not like they cured a desease, invented anything, fed the population, discovered a new law of physics or anything important. They are a bunch of luvvies that are only important to each other...
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Postby sacharlie » 11 Jan 2019, 17:36

I see ABs with parking permits doing the gimp-face all the time.
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Postby Rollin Positive » 11 Jan 2019, 20:29

Just go and enjoy the movie...

A true disabled actor would not draw an audience that Brian Cranston can so its simple about (R.O.I)return on investment.
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Postby Burgerman » 11 Jan 2019, 22:27

I will, download and watch for free sooner or later.

The main reason for this however https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-46793406

Is that the BBC has turned into a self determined endless left / liberal / progressive and overly diverse propaganda machine where they feel its their job to push among other things disability.

They employ about 12 weather people. All are either gay, muslim, black, gender fluid, have non understandable accents or dialects, red hair. And of course 2 are disabled. One has no lower arm. She has yet to be seen with a long sleeve even in mid winter. So why only her? Because we must all be able see its stump waving about to show how wonderfully accepting the BBC is. We all need educating. Well its ridiculous. But the BBC has become ridiculous.

They endlessly push socialism, and diversity. Its become illegal to have 2 while male heterosexuals on any screen on any subject at any time unless they really couldn't find any LGBT or disabled to cover/use or to use as presenters. Show a class of schoolkids? There must be at least 30% black, and guess which ones they interview? Remember that this is a country that comprises 85% white people. 95% in much of it outside of London. And 98% where I live. Their pushing of diversity, totally OTT. Same with disability. Travel show? Gotta be by wheelchair. (and 100 off screen assists). Game show? Got to be 1 disabled, 1 black, one of dubious sexuality, and a muslim. And probably a child molester as they seem to be pretty good at that too.

Their left wing bias, and hatred of trump, brexit, the right, and anything that the progressives in charge, pro EU, pro open borders, pro LGBT is so obvious its become a joke. People are turning off the BBC in huge numbers. And they blame Amazon and Netflix.
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Postby Burgerman » 11 Jan 2019, 22:40

Quotes explaining BBC bias by the BBC themselves.
https://biasedbbc.org/quotes-of-shame/


Busy!!!
Todays new thread https://biasedbbc.org/blog/2019/01/11/w ... /#comments
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Re: Actors in wheelchairs

Postby sacharlie » 11 Jan 2019, 23:41

Everyone is different from everyone else in more ways than not.
It's gotten to the point that hate(to some degree)(at least here in the USA) is the one thing everyone has in common.
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Re: Actors in wheelchairs

Postby Burgerman » 11 Jan 2019, 23:57

By which you mean the socialists have been hate filled and going mental ever since trump was voted in?
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Re: Actors in wheelchairs

Postby sacharlie » 12 Jan 2019, 00:15

No its that the world has gone digital.
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Re: Actors in wheelchairs

Postby Burgerman » 12 Jan 2019, 00:25

Maybe.

Theres plenty of hate in the middle east, africa, and no internet or power in most of it. So maybe its just that you see or hear more of it than was possible before.
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Re: Actors in wheelchairs

Postby sacharlie » 12 Jan 2019, 00:52

No its that before everything became digitized, the truth was harder for the populace to see.
History is now seen with a bright light and the present is in real time.
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Re: Actors in wheelchairs

Postby Burgerman » 12 Jan 2019, 01:03

Yes. Most places just got to see the propaganda that the main TV news and local papers put out. No matter how biased or purposely lacking or non reported that was. Much of the world is still that way.
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Re: Actors in wheelchairs

Postby Scooterman » 12 Jan 2019, 01:11

Cultural Marxism and the Frankfurt School. And to dissent results in a hate speech conviction, a career ruined, and your children taken into care.
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Re: Actors in wheelchairs

Postby Scooterman » 12 Jan 2019, 01:19

Burgerman wrote:
So maybe its just that you see or hear more of it than was possible before.

Good point that, a lot of truth in it me thinks :clap:
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Postby sacharlie » 12 Jan 2019, 01:30

I don't agree. Propaganda is still presented but is overwhelmed by digital communication in most of the world unless you are talking pygmy cannibals.
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Re: Actors in wheelchairs

Postby Burgerman » 12 Jan 2019, 01:40

4 billion people yet to see any real internet access. Thats half the planet. Its why musk is going to launch a global internet network from space. Those are the figures he used? https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg ... ould-work/


Of those that do, they see the actual news, and individuals reporting whats going on, often complete with pics and video. Rather than the propaganda and obvious bias and omissions the local news outlets give them. And that causes anger.
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Re: Actors in wheelchairs

Postby Mechniki » 15 Jan 2019, 18:11

I like Bryan Cranston, though I have never watched Breaking Bad, I remember him as Malcolm's dad in Malcolm in the middle.
As for whether it's ok for an actor to play other roles, yes, sure it is. In my opinion. I like to see if actors get it right, often in the bloopers section they have 'normal actors' playing a role, of a disabled wheelchair user Harrison Wells (Tom Cavanagh) bumping into stuff. We all do that, but it was cut out at production and added to bloopers.
Although years ago I stopped watching Emmerdale when Chris (the paraplegic) had his head out of a car window arm out the window, one hand on the steering wheel and drove away. Never did like that show much, except for the Dingles. My mum used to love Emmerdale Farm.
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