Alex popuwhatever

[Burgerman]

Was going to show us his marketing, awards, and research grants, and investment income.
Sorry I mean his own designed powerchair (basically my own BM3 type setup) with his own designed brushless motors, own designed control system, and 3.6kwh lithium 48V battery in 2 weeks. It was going to be cheap and all parts available for all without the fight? Aparently the design meant adrawing idea, and the engineering was just some unimportant background stuff you fitted to your idea (my chair) afterward. He said so here. I told him it would never happen and would take an understanding of the engineering to design a chair, and a budget in the many millions to design/ market it and a decade.

I called him out and told him that basically he hadnt a clue and I didnt believe a word of it. 2 weeks we were told. And it was almost done. That was in 2011/12 at least thats when he was emailing me to ask a million questions... So where is it?

[Burgerman]

https://freedomonelife.com/

Still at it. Collecting money I mean. What he seems to do is big on claims, marketing, and bullshit but never any substance. And people are still giving him money.

[terry2]

https://freedomonelife.com/

Still at it. Collecting money I mean. What he seems to do is big on claims, marketing, and bullshit but never any substance. And people are still giving him money.

I thought his idea was dead.
I see no specs on the website.

[Burgerman]

No you wont. Theres a few one off prototypes, and hundreds of thousands in grants, prizes, investments.

Heres the latest ones... 250Know, and 350, soon after and 600k eventually. Its basically a BM2/3 with a plastic tray, and its a mile long.
https://www.insider.co.uk/news/freedom- ... s-12100877

It is of course nothing like the original claims. But he will soon have had a decade of other people huge cash injections. To make something that you could do in a bedroom in a few months on your own. But his business model is all about development and funding, not actually building a chair to sell. If and when he does it will soon vanish. And his next income project will begin. My 2 penneth. Seems big on claims and marketing, rather low on info, details, even a decent picture, specs, or anything else. If people are daft enough to keep handing him tons of cash then he will just continue! Obviously. But so far its cost about a million to build wheelchair over 7 years!

[terry2]

No you wont. Theres a few one off prototypes, and hundreds of thousands in grants, prizes, investments.

Heres the latest ones... 250Know, and 350, soon after and 600k eventually. Its basically a BM2/3 with a plastic tray, and its a mile long.
https://www.insider.co.uk/news/freedom- ... s-12100877

It is of course nothing like the original claims. But he will soon have had a decade of other people huge cash injections. To make something that you could do in a bedroom in a few months on your own. But his business model is all about development and funding, not actually building a chair to sell. If and when he does it will soon vanish. And his next income project will begin. My 2 penneth. Seems big on claims and marketing, rather low on info, details, even a decent picture, specs, or anything else. If people are daft enough to keep handing him tons of cash then he will just continue! Obviously. But so far its cost about a million to build wheelchair over 7 years!

The cash mentioned in that link

Go on BM build on and challenge him to a on road dual

[Scooterman]

I see no specs on the website.

WD.com is the only website we need...

[Burgerman]

Well thats where all his 'research' info came from!

[wheelinghome]

Wow!

those figures are insane!

from a successful investment firm as well.

this either has to be a case of being blinded by disability/mugged off and feeling like they are almost doing it for charity or a tax write-off.

it would take 2 minutes of due diligence to work out his claims are complete nonsense-

"and the £600,000 will take sales to Scandinavia and the US." it would cost millions to get FDA approval and Medicaid/Medicare status. and Scandinavia would have similar cost barriers although probably less than the US.

I had a quick look at the company's accounts to see if they listed that Alex guys dividends but couldn't find it- would love to know what he's taking as a salary!

I saw tom kilmore's BM ish chairs this week at naidex which were being produced when they provided that investment- I don't know whether he would have accepted investment but that would have been hundred times better option.

[Burgerman]

I had a quick look at the company's accounts to see if they listed that Alex guys dividends but couldn't find it- would love to know what he's taking as a salary!

7 years of living well, and traveling the world on the back of two scruffy part finished prototypes and no specs, details, products, or much else other than marketing. And those figures are just the latest thing. He has other investments, gofundme project money, etc too. Remember that its really my BM3 layout with a few changes and brushless. Which was quite literally built in my bedroom for about 2k. It has that same feeling as the moller flying car... Decades of research and investments and a dodgy prototype that somehow never ends.

[woodygb]

It's worth having a look at those "investors"...

A web search turns up bugger all on "Wood and Thames Water" and a website with "Awards" for Seric Systems

https://www.seric.co.uk/

And then there is this Murray Capital....
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/SC206168
That seems to change it's name every 6 years or so ...
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... ng-history

It all looks very fishy ....


Ah! found Ian Marchant https://www.bloomberg.com/profiles/peop ... k-marchant

[Burgerman]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moller_M400_Skycar

Found it. Been watching the HUGE investments and marketing for this since about 97...

[hotwheels_75]

He took a nice looking BM2 and made it ugly AF...

[woodygb]

THIS was the original design concept that he "SOLD" to investors.

And now ....

[shirley_hkg]

I used to do 10,000 km in 3-1/4 years .

My chair was 2004 bought on ebay .

It has over 40,000 km now .

[Scooterman]

It must be nice to have that sort of budget to experiment with, and get own frames fabricated & welded up to own design.

[woodygb]

It must be nice to have that sort of budget to experiment with, and get own frames fabricated & welded up to own design.

Nah... that'll be eaten up by "admin" and other "expenses".

[ICEUK]

Im looking for small amount of 2k to continue my project. Gofumdme

[iainsherriff]

Matt and I found ourselves standing next to an obviously self made chair, with obvious BM parentage, at Naidex.
After a quick chat to the driver (Alex I presume) and the friend with him .......... they are expecting to have his chair on the market during 2019.

I haven't seen the stuff posted here previously so didn't know the background. Also so the Killmore stand/chairs which were up for an "Innovation Award" ??

[Burgerman]

Amazing isnt it.

I made my BM2 chairs that everyone copies about 12 years or so back, for approx 2k in a bedroom with eBay and a hacksaw.
And all those that copy it are in line for 'inovation' awards! Even alex, who still is totally clueless about powerchairs or technology, batteries, control systems etc and who got all his info and knowledge by email directly, and on here from me... Expect 2019 to come and go. Expect the chair that eventually gets sold, has little in common with all his claims and bullshit from 7 years ago. And is underdeveloped. Esp if he is talking about the chair in those images.

This old page was updated 9 years ago...
And was already a good few years old and out of date! Innovation my backside. All alex has innovated is about 600k. And a plastic top to cover to hide his less than pretty pipework and wires.
http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/ultimat ... rchair.htm

[iainsherriff]

The chair he was in is Matt black. Longitudinal frame rails welded to battery compartment. Motors mounted to rear of wheel centers. Controller screen I didn't recognise (but I didn't ask what it was). They gave me a flyer which I will post up later.

I did smile at the award notice on the Killmore stand (they didn't get anything).

[Burgerman]

It will be full of marketing bull, and no specs or real info. Thats how he works. All hype and no substance. My predicion. His real business is making a living off investors. $$$ it seems since we are now nearly adecade on to build a prototype copy of my own basic chair layout.

[wheelie junkie]

I spoke to him about 18 months ago, asking about chin control options, when he realised that I had looked at almost every way of fitting them without fixing to chair and had tried almost every micro joystick he was keen to pick my brain.

[LROBBINS]

Let's not confuse Alex ... who is a fraud with Killmore who honestly says that he is, for those who cannot or do not wish to do it themselves, making BM2 "clones" with adaptations specific to the individual's needs. One is a travesty, the other is a service, and it's not Killmore's basic design that's innovative, but his building quality bespoke chairs adapted to the user's specific needs that's innovative. He's not breaking new grounds in design, but does have a different model of meeting our needs.

[Burgerman]

Oh I dont. Also tom tells people that he basically builds a loose copy of mine. But there are ebay sellers and one in particular that sell "my" chair as their own. Living around hove, and then send people to my site to look. Then they produce the same unsafe garbage that they did for Nandol, who scrapped it and built his own after waiting 2 years. At huge prices...

[sacharlie]

Alex must be the real deal greedy, money grabbing right wing conservative. Not one of the progressive thinking, share your knowledge, help a fellow wheeler folks on this site.
Good to call him out BM!

[Burgerman]

Being a conservative in this country now seems to mean you are liberal, and fairly socialist. So that makes no sense. Just not so bad as the others.

I might add theres nothing wrong or illegal with what he is doing. IF he is actually doing it. But he appears to milk gullible investors rather easily. They are throwing good money at him and he is doing what with it? I part finished prototype thats he has been using as a personal chair for about 7 years. But a court may decide he was a simply a confidence trickster. Thats not capitalist. Your hated investment bankers lose money too if gillible enough. Likewise the character of the man has nothing to do with the politics. I think what he is doing may be borderline illegal. For all I know he may be a socialist like you. Because if you think capitalist conservatives are corrupt, you should take a look at the socialist ones! Thats the one thing they really excel at. Actually the only thing other than creating poverty.

I might also add that the richest capitalists in society give more back in actual cash to charities or whatever than you could ever dream of. Not to mention actually create all your countries prosperity. But you already know this. What alex is doing is taking advantage of investors by using a lot of fancy marketing and words and never delivering. That is not capitalism. Because a capitalist wants to create, build, expand, sell products or services and create jobs, wealth for him and everyone else and make real money. Alex is doing the exact opposite. He is living on rich peoples money. And producing very little. Thats the very definition of socialism isnt it?

[Scooterman]

The title of this thread makes me larf

I didn't realise when I first read it.

[Burgerman]

I cant spell/remember. I tried writing it 3 times, looked wrong.

Alex must be the real deal greedy, money grabbing right wing conservative. Not one of the progressive thinking, share your knowledge, help a fellow wheeler folks on this site.
Good to call him out BM!

I may add that I am right leaning, conservative, and very capitalist. And I am not in any way corrupt, go out of my way to help others (not here, all my life) when I can. So I alone prove your assertions are bollox.

[sacharlie]

Being a conservative in this country now seems to mean you are liberal, and fairly socialist. So that makes no sense. Just not so bad as the others.

I might add theres nothing wrong or illegal with what he is doing. IF he is actually doing it. But he appears to milk gullible investors rather easily. They are throwing good money at him and he is doing what with it? I part finished prototype thats he has been using as a personal chair for about 7 years. But a court may decide he was a simply a confidence trickster. Thats not capitalist. Your hated investment bankers lose money too if gillible enough. Likewise the character of the man has nothing to do with the politics. I think what he is doing may be borderline illegal. For all I know he may be a socialist like you. Because if you think capitalist conservatives are corrupt, you should take a look at the socialist ones! Thats the one thing they really excel at. Actually the only thing other than creating poverty.

I might also add that the richest capitalists in society give more back in actual cash to charities or whatever than you could ever dream of. Not to mention actually create all your countries prosperity. But you already know this. What alex is doing is taking advantage of investors by using a lot of fancy marketing and words and never delivering. That is not capitalism. Because a capitalist wants to create, build, expand, sell products or services and create jobs, wealth for him and everyone else and make real money. Alex is doing the exact opposite. He is living on rich peoples money. And producing very little. Thats the very definition of socialism isnt it?

If you believe everything you wrote above I must say it's useless to go beyond saying Alex is a crook.

[Burgerman]

Yes. Maybe. But he likely has mountains of reciepts, travel reciepts, etc as well as a healthy wage, and a lot in the bank. So its compicated. If an investor took a good look he may get in trouble but you gotta prove it. Just because I could have built that chair he uses or even 6 of them as prototypes for 30K doesent mean he can. Jobs for the boys... The real problem is stupid investors. Unless they expect to get their money back. With profit. I dont see that happening.

Just one of his investments is expected to pay 600k. Thats 800k dollars. Would you give him that without knowing a lot more than we do?