R-net

[terry2]

Why you need the 120 module!
This is my salsa. rear drive. 185kg rehab style chair. Fat user (me).

NOTE the current required on each motor. If the power module couldnt supply that the it MAY or may not start to turn. But it wont be responsive. The chair wont follow the joystick properly. I hate that... See current M1 and M2 (Motor 1 and 2). This is not doing anything special. Just a zero speed turn in place in my hallway. If I do this on the lawn when its soft, its pinned at 120A on each motor. And wont turn reliably.

If this was an 8mph version, with taller gearing it would need 160A instead to get the same torque level. Theres no 160A power modules though... So for my purposes, 8mph motors are a step too far for decent control. It wouldnt (doesent!) turn reliably on a heavy carpet for e.g. Tested a few different 8mph motors.

After reading a lot on here over the years.

I ordered the 120A version of R-Net.
I can't get to the motor as all the bottom is encased.

[Burgerman]

Your machine doesent do tank steer, it has no need of high current for turning. Its driving only backwards and forwards like a scooter. And its caster wheels are steering wheels like your car. Only going in reverse. Its a different setup. I think that the only controller that can be configured that way is the 120A one anyway by combin9ng both channels.

[steves1977uk]

I found this image on the German eBay...

It's a 220A single channel PM from a Merya chair, which you should have Terry.

Steve

[steves1977uk]

Here's the details from the back of the above PM...

Steve

[terry2]

I found this image on the German eBay...

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It's a 220A single channel PM from a Merya chair, which you should have Terry.

Steve

Great detective work

I will try and find the same one now.

Did you save the link Steve? my google fu is crap today

[Burgerman]

When you say you paid for the 120A module (which cant work) what did you actually pay for?

[terry2]

When you say you paid for the 120A module (which cant work) what did you actually pay for?

I bought the chair...so payed for it.
They told me that it has a 120 amp for the 15 kmh and over chairs.

I contacted meyra DE and they said the same. I asked PG drives today.

And they said I can't buy one from them. I have to go to Meyra DE

[Burgerman]

They told you wrong!

[steves1977uk]

I found this image on the German eBay...

220ASC.jpg

It's a 220A single channel PM from a Merya chair, which you should have Terry.

Steve

Great detective work

I will try and find the same one now.

Did you save the link Steve? my google fu is crap today

Here's the link... https://www.ebay.de/itm/113705570022 But they don't post to the UK.

Steve

[terry2]

I found this image on the German eBay...

220ASC.jpg

It's a 220A single channel PM from a Merya chair, which you should have Terry.

Steve

Great detective work

I will try and find the same one now.

Did you save the link Steve? my google fu is crap today

Thank you Steve
Here's the link... https://www.ebay.de/itm/113705570022 But they don't post to the UK.

Steve

[steves1977uk]

Just bought another 120A PM for £38.44, £89 odd with postage from the US. Still cheaper than buying from the UK!

Steve

[expresso]

i love to see the link for that purchase - i never find anything that cheap at all - thats a great deal -

[steves1977uk]

Here expresso... https://www.ebay.com/itm/R-Net-D50946-1 ... 3409881109

Steve

[expresso]

great deal you got - i never find anything at a good price - i cant even sell anything - sometimes not ever free

your good at finding deals - find me a new color joystick - non permobil

[steves1977uk]

I'll keep my eyes peeled for a colour LCD joystick for you expresso.

Steve

[expresso]

[Burgerman]

Just bought another 120A PM for £38.44, £89 odd with postage from the US. Still cheaper than buying from the UK!

Steve

Bargain. Although I did get one for 55 delivered in the UK... Power modules, go for 50 dollars up, those colour joysticks from 100, bus cables I just bought 5 various lengths 10 pounds each new. But they appear for around 10 mins and then they vanish fast! Because people like me buy them. So you need to waste days and days when nothing better to do searching.

[expresso]

brand new color joystick for $100 ?? never seen one - not even used and cracked screen for that price - i must be looking at the wrong ebay

[Burgerman]

Thats what rollin positive paid for one in the us on ebay new.

I got 2 for 125, and one for 150. Pounds. All new.

[expresso]

when i see it with my eyes - a brand new color joystick - new model for $100 - i believe it - till then - dont think so -

[Burgerman]

Your choice. But I assure you its true.

There was a time that a lot of these were floating around. I bought 4. Elryko was selling them on eBay and here. But he was too expensive. He was paying around 130 for them. But trying to sell for 250...

Tom kilmore sold me 2. For 125. He did have a load. No longer does. I think one came from Rover for 150? Dont remember exact price now. One came from eBay, 150.

Likewise I bought a bunch of new unused bus cables for 10 to 14 each a week ago in various lengths up to 76 inches (2 metres).. Those are 65 dollars on US Ebay!

But you gotta ask around, keep eyes peeled and search ebay germany, uk, US regularly.

THIS for e.g, cables, 120 unused module, and unused joystick, bus cables, A complete setup of the best there is.
Full R-Net top of range kit for a high end powerchair, best of everything for £268 delivered! And all new or removed from a new chairs. Whats more it wasnt a fluke because I now have 3 full sets! And a bunch of spare cables. All around the same price.

[expresso]

Ok - i guess i am the only idiot here that dosnt get a deal - another shot coming up

[Burgerman]

Its not that you are an idiot. But you need to be patient. There was nothing cheap on eBay for a year. Then like busses loads of stuff came along from unknown sources. And so price was low! Now all quiet again.

[expresso]

i guess - even cables are not cheap here - i never bothered because i have no idea what size i may need or not - plus i figured i would just be changing out a joystick - not a whole system from scratch on new chair etc, - can use existing cables - unless of course a cable goes bad - 20 years with chairs - i have to say - never had any cable go bad on me - just once the toggle switch that controls the tilt on basic units - that can be flaky at times


if anyone can find me a generic new color joystick for $150 brand new - not permobil but new OEM generic - i would take two of them

[Burgerman]

I recently bought up FIVE different length bus cables. Why? They were cheap. £10, £12, £15 delivered and new.
Same cables are 50 to 65 when you actually need one... Try a search!

[expresso]

thats great - i never find them at that cost - i dont know which i would need to be honest - its tricky - male to male or male to female and what size etc, - i would have to really check my cables to know for sure - - and i dont feel like taking out my battery to do so - plus it goes to a box ISM6 i am thinking thats used but dont know for sure - would have to measure the lengths needed more or less -

[Burgerman]

Full system... Includes 2 bus cables, and an ISM6 as well as a 120A power module, and a cheap joystick! All new. Or pulled from new chair. Unmarked.

156 delivered. Will do any rehab chair.

Did I need it? No. But it was silly cheap. So I bought!

[Burgerman]

Unused 120A permobil power module. So cheap I couldnt help it... £53 And he included a bus cable because I am cheeky.

[expresso]

what i have here is more than i need - i dont want to stock up on things i never will need - but if you have the room and the cost is cheap - its worth getting - i just got one PM120A ISM6 and Joystick - just to have since i have a few chairs i can use them on and no longer covered by insurance - also tires spares with rims

add in 3 extra PL8 charges - 2 extra PSU's in closet - besides the two chargers and PSU in use all the time - extra seat backs - which i am selling - i got rid of a set or rims and tires - have a few more to sell - i cant keep everything - maybe will even get rid of one chair when i get my new one - well see -

[Burgerman]

And I ordered 4 caster tyres. 3.00 x 4. Complete with tubes. They arrived, and were excellent quality with heavy branded tubes. So I ordered 4 more. Get em while they are there!