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Postby Burgerman » 17 Jul 2019, 12:30

tell me that these people were carefully picked.


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Postby HiltonP » 17 Jul 2019, 13:36

Afraid not John. They are out there living among us, and what is most here is that they have the same power of vote as you and me!
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Postby Burgerman » 17 Jul 2019, 14:11

Thats what I was afraid of. I dont think its much better here.
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Postby hobie1dog » 17 Jul 2019, 14:30

"We are all ignorant, only on different subjects "
Earth: The Insane Asylum of the Universe-nowhere else could things be more screwed up.

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Postby Burgerman » 17 Jul 2019, 14:51

True. I know nothing about art, or anything related. Or football, or any ball games... I do terribly in things like TV quiz programs. Because I dont watch all that dumbed dow crap that most seem to find interesting.

But ANYONE that left school in the 70S could likely have answered about 80% of those questions. Not today. I dont get whats happened.

But I suspect that most of my carers would be as bad. And 2 of those are my age.
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Postby LROBBINS » 17 Jul 2019, 17:50

But ANYONE that left school in the 70S could likely have answered about 80% of those questions.
I doubt it. I recall one similar "man in the street" survey (and it was a real random sampling type survey) from the 60's in which a majority of U.S. citizens identified the U.S. Declaration of Independence and the preamble to the U.S. constitution as communist documents.
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Postby wheelie junkie » 17 Jul 2019, 18:17

Please tell me that you didn't watch all 54 minutes of that?
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Postby sacharlie » 17 Jul 2019, 22:12

LROBBINS wrote:
But ANYONE that left school in the 70S could likely have answered about 80% of those questions.
I doubt it. I recall one similar "man in the street" survey (and it was a real random sampling type survey) from the 60's in which a majority of U.S. citizens identified the U.S. Declaration of Independence and the preamble to the U.S. constitution as communist documents.


LOL but I shouldn't! Those in the pockets of the UCA and elite here have done a good job of telling the populace that anything that promotes fairness and justice for all has got to be nothing more than communist, socialist or better yet both.
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Postby Burgerman » 17 Jul 2019, 22:36

It all depend HOW and WHAT is meant by fairness.

Fairness or rather equality of OPORTUNITY is always a good thing - thats the basis of all free capitalist societies. Equality of outcome is socialism. And that always manages to do the opposite to what it attempts to achieve.


Racicm is always bad. Unless its based on a few facts.
I dont care what colour someones skin is.
But I do not like african black immigrants or muslims, not because of race, but because of ideology, violence, and very low values placed on life or other peoples property. Thats not all of them by any means. But they are very much over represented. And thats easy to see in almost any metric you examine. So I would rather a german, or swiss, spanish family moved in next door, than a bunch of fighting age somalian muslim male migrants. And thats true of all the honest liberals/leftists too. Its just that they are now not "allowed" to have such opinions today.

But trump is obviously racist. But most people are to a lesser or greater degree. For good reason, or bad. He is rather too honest about it.
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Postby sacharlie » 17 Jul 2019, 23:06

Burgerman wrote:trump is obviously racist. But most people are to a lesser or greater degree. For good reason, or bad. He is rather too honest about it.

he is an asswipe and enjoys being just that. :fart
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Postby Burgerman » 18 Jul 2019, 01:20

Yes but he mostly hates socialists, and lefties. And so he knows that most of his base are racist anyway, so he thinks it will get him more votes and it might. He knows that left/liberals love all the immigrants and LGBT types etc. So he does not care about insulting them. It benefits him.
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Postby ex-Gooserider » 23 Jul 2019, 05:43

I thought one of the most embarrassingly honest comments about race was when the noted black activist Jesse Jackson admitted that if he was walking down the street at night and heard someone coming up behind him, he felt much less concerned if he turned around and saw it was a white guy and not a black guy.....

(worth noting that the largest percentage of victims of crimes committed by minorities are members of that minority.... )
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Postby Burgerman » 23 Jul 2019, 06:45

All over the planet, in primarily white countries, or mostly black, the highest crime, drug, knife, gun, and other violent crime rates are far and away by blacks. And also the most rapes, petty crimes, and prison over representation. Every place. Regardless of all other factors. And these are not small differences we are talking about here.

Also they do less well in education, and always well over represented in single parent families, and poverty. Its not about opportunity, or racism. Its just how it is. Not all places evolved exactly the same with the same skills or abilities. And while blacks tend to be over represented in sport, and other physical things, they are always under represented in anything requiring higher levels of thinking skills. Obviously genetics as well as background and culture plays a part.

But what frustrates me is how nobody is "allowed" to discuss the facts in a rational way. We are all forced to pretend this stuff isnt true. And that everyone is identical. In the UK recently, the gov dragged university leaders into parliment to answr some aqward questions. They asked some of the universities why it was that blacks underachieve in the results and were leaving or not completing courses/qualifications. And were asked what they were doing about the "inequality" of results and accused or suggested they were guilty of institutionlized racism. This is even AFTER they were forced to allow entry and preferencial treatment of black candidates after being asked a few years ago why it was that the blacks were also under represented in the successeful applicants. They were then forced to admit blacks with a lower standard of entry qualification to the universities to prevent getting into more bother with the goverment. Positive discrimination for various groups to make up the numbers. Its not the universities fault. But nobody DARE to mention the real reasons. That would be "racist"... After all everyone is equal... So everyone is running around trying to "fix" the wrong thing. Even otherwise sane scientists are going out of their way to try to show or pretend this isnt true and its because of x y z other reasons and IQ is the same across races. And that we are all the SAME race. When the real reasons are even obvious even to most black people.

It all stems from the Eugenics experiments and hitlers views, and experiments in the US a long while back. Now because of political correctness and the progressives, and liberals in society have taken over (the thought police) we are not even allowed to THINK that this stuff may be true. Certainly cant say so in public. And many, esp polititions, media, go to extraordinary lengths to deny it. Yet its fine to say that westerners have a lower IQ than the chinese for E.G. Or that chinese have less good sporting capability than blacks. Or that we all LOOK different. Everyone can see and identify the difference between a native american, an aboriginee, or a african black, western european or a chinese person. Well in the same way that their faces and sporting differences are obvious and genetic, mental or brain and behavioural differences exist too in the same way via the way these groups evolved.

But we cant talk about that... So instead pretend this is not real, sweep anything or anyone that mentions it under the carpet and continue with the one size fits all society, where everyone is the same, and the problems all continue. The solution to the black violence issues will never be found unless the truth is first admitted and examined. And only then could solutions be found. If its even possible. Try watching the african countries parliments. They hit each other over the head with chairs and it ends in massive fights and ambulances. Not once. At least monthly. Its almost a hopeless case.

For e.g. below. If this was a 1 off, it would be funny. But its not. New ones posted regularly!
They are unable to control themselves even in parliment with some of their best representitive people...
This one is Uganda. You couldnt make it up.


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Postby ex-Gooserider » 05 Aug 2019, 02:21

There was a book published a few years back titled "The Bell Curve: Intelligence and Class Structure in American Life" (A Free Press Paperbacks Book)
by Richard J. Herrnstein and Charles Murray | Jan 10, 1996
https://smile.amazon.com/s?k=bell+curve+charles+murray&crid=11HNELTGEIH9G&sprefix=bell+curve%2Caps%2C318&ref=nb_sb_ss_i_2_10

It got slammed all over for what it said - totally dismissed as 'racist' etc...

I picked up a copy and read it for myself - essentially it is chapter after chapter of looking at the results of various standardized tests, studies, etc, and seeing how the results compared across ethnic groups...

The book is very careful in how it goes through just what each thing it looked at seemed to say, with a lot of discussion on the flaws, biases, and other concerns that might cause the results to be off.... They also emphasized repeatedly (like every other page) that NONE of the things they looked at were at all useful in judging any individual members of a group, they only showed results ON AVERAGE for the ENTIRE group...

The theme was that any legitimate test will get results that show a 'bell curve' distribution - and looking where different groups fell on that curve, on average...

The authors are reputable scientists, and the writing showed it...

Worth a read....

BTW, Whites did not come out on top in many of the tests...

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Postby Burgerman » 05 Aug 2019, 02:49

NO, the chinese did.

Obviously, it was dismissed as racist. Because to be correct, it has to say everyone is equal and not reality, the new leftist, liberal politically correct idealism. Which is of course false. The lunatics have taken over the assylum.
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Postby Dan » 05 Aug 2019, 13:39

The scientists who study human intelligence not only say there is no scientific basis for the claim that IQ is related to race but that there is no such thing as race.
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/news ... rutherford

British geneticist Adam Rutherford
I’m a geneticist; there is no definition of race that corresponds with variation in DNA. Race is not defined by DNA. We’ve known this for quite some time now....
We largely abandoned the term race in biology decades ago for this reason. It is not a useful or informative term for science. Instead, race most certainly exists as a social construct. But folk and colloquial racial definitions correspond poorly to human variation in DNA.

The bell curve said that Ashkenazi Jews had the highest IQ along with east Asians. Whites were set as the average.
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Postby Burgerman » 05 Aug 2019, 13:47

And yet IQ testing, achievements in universities, work, etc all say otherwise. He is one of the ones that prefer to ignore the reality and try to make out that the results we see in life are not real for 101 different reasons. Yet they are. Its all about prefering a nice cuddly version of reality over that actual facts.

And while he says theres no such thing as race, you yourself can tell an aboriginy from a chinese or french or african, or native american man at a glance just by the way they look. Thats genetic. And thats why the link was rediculous. And everything about these different people are slightly different. And theres measurable reasons to think the brain is no different to anything else. Other than the fanatical resistance to accepting this. Because liberals...

YOU can take 100 blacks and a 100 whites, chosen from any school anywhere on the planet and see this on any IQ test. Thats not to say there are no bright hi IQ blacks, but it does mean that the average one has a lower IQ. And likewise the chinese tend to be around 8 points above the whites. Endless testing anywhere will show that. There may be reasons that are not heritable too, but the reality is that this is a part of the reason that blacks always tend to be worse off, even in black countries than whites are. And with that comes all the other problems.
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Postby ex-Gooserider » 06 Aug 2019, 03:18

I am less sure about Asian culture, and have limited exposure to Jewish culture, but it is worth noting that at least by reputation both put a very high value on education and instill this into their children early and often....

There are endless jokes about Jewish parents seeking well educated mates for their daughters, etc.... To the extent that the stereotype matches reality, sounds like 'selective breeding' for brains...

OTOH, throughout much of the Middle Ages, and to a much lesser extent, even up to this day, the prime route to education for the brightest kids (especially those that didn't have the good fortune of being born into a noble family) was to go into the Catholic clergy either as a priest or monk - effectively removing them from the gene pool.....

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Postby Burgerman » 06 Aug 2019, 10:48

I am less sure about Asian culture, and have limited exposure to Jewish culture, but it is worth noting that at least by reputation both put a very high value on education and instill this into their children early and often....

Because both jews and asians are bright enough to understand the advantages BECAUSE of IQ. Jews and chinese always have above average IQ when tested and tend to do well in society wherever they live. I migh add that education does not affect IQ much other than by practice in those kind of questions. So you can give a slight tempory IQ improvement on testing with lots of practice on IQ type tests... But its not a major factor.

There are endless jokes about Jewish parents seeking well educated mates for their daughters, etc.... To the extent that the stereotype matches reality, sounds like 'selective breeding' for brains...

Obviously. My ex was a reasonably intelligent (2 degrees, and a maths teacher) single girl. She mostly was interested in me because I have a good IQ and know a lot of stuff. (I am not a pretty sight!). Thats the main reason she decided to move in with me here thousands of miles from her home in belgrade. She wanted bright kids. So the brightest of people DO choose intelligent partners on purpose. But the stupid are less selective and breed 3x as fast!

OTOH, throughout much of the Middle Ages, and to a much lesser extent, even up to this day, the prime route to education for the brightest kids (especially those that didn't have the good fortune of being born into a noble family) was to go into the Catholic clergy either as a priest or monk - effectively removing them from the gene pool.....


And we are doing the same thing now by giving hand outs to all these unmarried mothers on benefits. Artificially promoting the stupid to breed faster.
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Postby foghornleghorn » 06 Aug 2019, 19:34

Say Asians and Jews are selectively breeding aiming for intelligent children. Is it a similar case that Africans could be selectively breeding for physical fitness rather than intelligence, as rather than trying to produce doctors and lawyers there is a requirement towards manual labour?
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Postby Burgerman » 06 Aug 2019, 20:21

They have not selectively bred for intelligence OR for manual labour. They have naturally bred for thousands of years for the heat, running, survival on the african planes etc - its called evolution. Thats why the primarily white UK has a olympic running team, that are black... But the same reason blacks tend to do badly in edu or high skilled jobs. Not that there are non, but there are always less.
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