GMT

[biscuit]

GMT began today again so the forum time is wrong.

[Burgerman]

Well its supposed to be based on the servers clock. In canada. Seems correct here though.

[biscuit]

How confusing. There is no time zone in Canada corresponding to GMT. It is 17h53 GMT here at the moment and on my phone and the forum time is 18h53.
So my phone tells me. It has a very naff clock, but it knows the time.

[Burgerman]

If it doesent change soon I will change it manually.

But the forum is correct here. It says I posted that message at the correct time...

[steves1977uk]

GMT began today again so the forum time is wrong.

You need to turn off Daylight Savings Time in the board preferences on here, then the forum time is right! BM leaves it in BST permanently.

Steve

[Burgerman]

Thats how it is now.

[biscuit]

Why do you put it permanently on BST, Burgerman?

I only use the board's default options, which seem mostly very good to me anyway. I tried having posts in reverse order once, but as soon as I logged out it went back to the original way.

I think Chrome makes a total mess of my cookies. As it is it logs me out of this board as soon as I stop paying attention.

[Burgerman]

Dont use chrome.

Its rubbish for other reasons too.

I leave it on GMT permanantly because it gets its info from the server in canada. If that does daylight changes, and it does, at a different date, then it automatically puts the server back 1 hour... But the time and date is CORRECT right now. At least for me!

[steves1977uk]

If you don't log into the forum, then it shows this in the bottom right hand corner...

All times are UTC [ DST ]

Which is always how it has been.

Steve

[Burgerman]

Well thats because before you log in it doesent know where you are. If you are in china, or the usa or the UK where we invented time. GMT runs through my town.

[redder]

or the UK where we invented time.

i think you will find that time pre-dated the invention and application of clocks.

Your ability to understand the glaringly obvious matches you political and economic understanding it seems

[Burgerman]

Nope. The brits invented time. In greenwich. We then allowed other people to borrow it, and depending where they live they add or subtract hours from the place we invented it...

https://time.is/GMT

Yes I know lefties dont understand humour.

[redder]

You mean that in your distorted fantasy world nobody grew old until the imperial brits began the process of establishing regularised time?

[Burgerman]

Oh they grew old. But they didnt know the time.

[redder]

[Burgerman]

You laugh but its true. Long ago many disjointed parts of the planet didnt even know there were other places or countries or that the world was round or tat it rotated. So some godforsaken tribe in who knows where only had the ability to cound days and years because of seasons LOCALLY. So they knew perfectly well how old they were. They may have even known the time locally in some arbitrary way before clocks, hours, minutes etc. But they certainly couldnt know the time in some other yet to be descovered place. So the brits invented time, and time zones. And thats why I am at zero. And other places are zero plus or minus 1 hour around the world. The brits invented time... And . And the industrial revolution, steam, clocks, etc.

[greybeard]

Time doesn't exist. Clocks exist. (Or so I read somewhere recently.)

[Burgerman]

Well according to physics you are correct. Time is what we lable entropy, and the speed of causality. But the brits invented how we "measure it". Although you cant really measure something thats variable. And the speed of causality (and that includes all clocks) depends on the local distortion of space time due to mass or speed. And those are both observer dependent. The time (clocks) run at different speeds in high gravity or at high speed. So theres no way to have a "meet me at 2pm" thing really. If you go fast enough your 2pm might be days away from mine.

[redder]

yawn

[Burgerman]

When you dont understand a thing, its boring to you. I have 2 carers like that. Of course being a socialist I certainly wouldnt have expected you to understand anything complicated... If you could you wouldnt be one!

[biscuit]

I'm about to get a copy of Dava Sobel's book "Longitude" Which tells the story of ... Guess what?? because in earlier centuries not being able to determine this caused huge problems for shipping.
And here's a good website: http://www.thegreenwichmeridian.org/tgm ... ?article=0

[Burgerman]

Yes. Where the brits invented time...

[biscuit]

Well... I don't think time mattered to most people, all they needed to know was the season. But to navigators exploring in the middle of the ocean beyond the horizon, they needed to know where they were so they could get home again. It wasn't like Star Trek, where the producer is always watching to see that the crew don't get lost.

[biscuit]

Mind you, the ones who made Stonehenge and other similar monuments around the world didn't just know the approximate season!

[Burgerman]

No. But that was only correct in one place.

[biscuit]

Yep Stonehenge is pretty duff as a navigation beacon. And also the clever things they did when building ancient monuments were all lost to history, unlike the system they invented in Britain.

[biscuit]

BST is not GMT!