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"By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby martin007 » 30 Jan 2024, 20:50

Burgerman made this prediction years ago and it is close to being fulfilled.
The French roads are on fire; Spanish merchandise is burning.
Inflation has made the European economy uncompetitive.
The only recipe that wants to be applied is to issue more currency and generate more inflation.
Next week there will be mobilizations and roadblocks in Spain.

The European Union was an industrial and agricultural power years ago.
In the 90s Spain was an agricultural, industrial and fishing power.
Today Spain is in deficit in cereals and milk.
Olive oil is a luxury product.
In the 90s a large fleet of Spanish fishing boats moved around the world.
Large freezer fishing vessels fished in the world's great fishing grounds.
The European Union forced the scrapping of the Spanish fishing fleet.
The European Union forced the closure of the large steel complexes in the north of Spain.
A hundred km from where I live there are large deposits of coal; the mines are closed.

In 1975 a steel cable stuck in the ground delimited the border with Morocco.
No one dared to jump that line.
There is a triple chainlink fence today;
Every week there are assaults on the fence.
Spanish and European politicians are Soros' puppets.
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby Burgerman » 30 Jan 2024, 22:29

Well there are a number of euroskeptic right wing politicians accending the ladders all over the EU too.

Even in germany they are trying to "ban" the AFD party because the globalist establishment politicals, and the EU are scared that its now the biggest and rapidly climbing party. They dont want the EU. The dutch have geert wilders who already got the highest vote. And he doesent either! The rest of the parties are refusing to work with hm in spite of the people voting for him en mass and so expect more trouble! Then theres the hungarian guy victor orban, he is refusing the EUs orders and they are doing everything to try to force him to "behave" like the unelected EU leaders tell him. Including witholding his money and fining him. Then theres poland. And others. Much trouble for the EU ahead.

Inc marine le pen who appears to be next by miles in france! All exactly as I predicted 8 years ago. Should be entertaining. Grab a seat and popcorn! The elitist, globalist open borders loving, socialist anti seperate countries EU are basicaly up shit creek without a bat. They hate nationalist countries. Your governments are just there to submit to EU control. And the people are awakening to this gradual "trading block" overeach. The net zero nonsense will be the final cherry on top. People need affordable food, and products to live. To BE a county you need borders. Oh the fun! Watch this space. :thumbup:
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby martin007 » 30 Jan 2024, 22:33

Most of the ruling classes do not want the population to feed and live.
If they could they would us physically eliminate, especially those of us who are diseased like you and me.
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby Burgerman » 30 Jan 2024, 22:36

They all listen to the WEF bullshit, the UN, and all the rest. And what we want is not important to them so they pretend to listen. It will all end very badly.
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby Burgerman » 30 Jan 2024, 22:42

The European Union was an industrial and agricultural power years ago.

No. INDIVIDUAL SOVERIGN COUNTRIES that were members of a trading block were. But that not what it now is. It was gradually morphed into an all controlling new soviet union style socialist superstate that control every aspect of your life, with coutless laws and rules and green nonsense. Your previous governments and businesses are no longer doing things for their/your benefit. And have no power or control. Now its a political centrally controlled union that nobody was asked about. Mission creep. A massive plan that started 45 years ago. We were lied to and told it was a trading block called the common market.

And of course socialism has failed in every last place it was ever tried. And it will in the EU too. Its why nobody can afford to lve now. Ever dropping iving standards is a result of it.
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby martin007 » 30 Jan 2024, 22:48

Burgerman wrote:No. INDIVIDUAL SOVERIGN COUNTRIES that were members of a trading block were.


The sum of the agricultural and industrial capacity of these countries was unstoppable.
Today we are some shit stuck on a stick.

Burgerman wrote:And what we want is not important to them so they pretend to listen.


There are a lot of people like that.
Those people are the ones holding the reins...
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby Burgerman » 30 Jan 2024, 22:55

In the EU those holding the reigns are the unelected EU "leaders! as every EU country has signed away all their power. Your government are just placeholders. They are not allowed to change anything that matters. The EU doesent let them. WHO ARE THE EU? They are not a country yet have an anthem and fancy titles, big pay, and all the power. Its a joke. Get the hell out!
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby Burgerman » 31 Jan 2024, 20:02

Remember that it doesent matter what government you vote in now. They are all forced to sing to the same hymnsheet by the EU green/netzero/open borders/pro immigration unnelected rulers. If they disobey they ae made to sit on the naughty step.
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby martin007 » 31 Jan 2024, 21:04

Burgerman wrote:Remember that it doesent matter what government you vote in now. They are all forced to sing to the same hymnsheet by the EU green/netzero/open borders/pro immigration unnelected rulers. If they disobey they ae made to sit on the naughty step.



This has been happening in Spain for 20 years.
Aznar was the last independent prime minister.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos%C3%A9 ... %ADa_Aznar

He actively defended the Spanish shipyards and the Spanish countryside.
Spain is beginning to overshadow France.
Aznar was a fucking fly who did not bow to globalist interests.
After 8 years of governing Aznar did not stand for elections.

A few days before the 2004 elections several bombs exploded on the trains.
It is rumored that the French and Moroccan secret services carried out the attacks.
There was also collaboration from Spanish people.

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Madr ... n_bombings

From that moment Spain sank into the mud.
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby martin007 » 31 Jan 2024, 21:16

The following prime ministers have been puppets.
The globalists (headed by Soros) rule the European Union and part of the planet.
The money printing machine is the fuel that helps them.
So far, no leader of a large European country has dared to confront Soros.
Orban is isolated and Putin is out of the Union.
Sooner or later some Western European political leader will strike a blow at the table, but when?
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby Burgerman » 31 Jan 2024, 23:03

No they wont. They all WANT this WEF nonsense. After brexit we had an 8 YEAR fight to get even a brexit in name only. Barely any of it actually done. And they are still sulking.
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby martin007 » 31 Jan 2024, 23:44

Someone will do it; a madman.
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby Burgerman » 01 Feb 2024, 15:54

Paris is blockaded by 5,000 tractors for 3 days blocking all main roads in and out. And they are spreading animal manure by pressure hoses and tankers at all the public buildings. Same across many large french and other EU cities.
The leftist EU are now trying to "ban" the rapidly growing and huge AFD in germany and guess what more riots!

Meanwhile, at the belgian EU parliment buildings, the belgian farmers are thowing egs and trying to burn it down... Going really well this forced net zero/EU control thing! :lol:

Belgium 1 hour ago. Parliment.

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Postby Burgerman » 01 Feb 2024, 16:14

Now tractors in italy too. Peacefully for the moment. But farmers have had enough. So many regulations and net zero measures that they are being forced to "rewild" vast areas of land. They are being hounded out of business by the rules. And they have had enough everywhere.
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Postby Burgerman » 01 Feb 2024, 16:39

And ireland. British farmers threatened the government here with the same...

As they say: The power of the people is greater than the power of the people in power!

I think we are seeing a turning of the tide. These things happen. Periodically in history. And socialist controlling superstates (socialist anything) always fail sooner or later.
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby martin007 » 01 Feb 2024, 19:40

It's a question of survival.
Them or us.
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby Burgerman » 03 Feb 2024, 17:21

The governments, EU leaders, WEF, pro "palistinians" black lives matter, antifa, the idealogs that know nothing, and net zero fanatics etc are all what we call watermelons. Green on the outside and communist red on the inside. And they control he media, the silicon valley businesses, like google etc, and the schools and universities. Theres little hope for the west. The strange death of europe.

This is what remains of londonstan. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z62zUWwwL3U
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby martin007 » 03 Feb 2024, 19:27

Europe has signed its death sentence and the USA is on the same path.
China will dominate the world.
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby Burgerman » 03 Feb 2024, 19:44

But heres the thing that baffles me. What drives these so called leaders to detroy our economies, our means of production, our communities, etc. Why?
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby martin007 » 03 Feb 2024, 20:02

I think they're just in other people's paychecks.
Nothing new under the sun.
I can't find any other explanation.
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby Burgerman » 15 Feb 2024, 11:02

Portugal now has their own euroskeptic conservative party on the rapid rise too. Same as germany, holland, france and many other places. Expect a shock erection in portugal! Even sweden has a "swexit" anti EU party gaining ground pretty fast. The right are making big gains and its sweeping the whole of europe.

The greens are losing ground just as fast and support across the same countries. As people realise that this is destroying their countries and even destroying farming. The EU are ignoring it all - for now. But they are secretly scared. Their common socialist controlled globalist green ideals and open borders and central control of everything is under growing threat from the real people who are just waking up. And realizing what is happening. Realizing their governments are just ornaments that have no more power than a local town council. And realising that its all destroying their economies and cultures with green nonsense and immigration of 3rd world ignorant violent muslim savages being forced on them

So the EU are now removing the only remaining semblence of democracy that it had left. The right for a country to veto a vote... Thats soon going to be gone! So turning it into a soviet style dictatorship of unelected "leaders" pushing the green bullshit, taxation, open borders, and the millions of EU "rules" and none of you will have any control or national identity left. Or allowed.
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby martin007 » 15 Feb 2024, 20:32

Now the E.U. wants to censor Viktor Orbán.
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby Burgerman » 15 Feb 2024, 23:58

What it wants is total control over all the EU members. It is so controlling that it even TRIES to tell us here in the UK that we were not allowed to do all kinds of things. For e.g. we banned unions from full strikes in emergency services and hospitals. We insisted that a basic workable service must continue. The EU still think we are under their control even after we left. We told them to get lost. Thats not the first time, they keep on trying to tell us what we are "allowed" to do! They dont seem to get it. A real dictatorship.
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby Burgerman » 27 Feb 2024, 19:01

I see the spanish farmers are now blocking streets and revolting! They want less eu rules less green legislation, less fuel taxation supporting net zero etc.
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby martin007 » 27 Feb 2024, 21:26

Burgerman wrote:I see the spanish farmers are now blocking streets and revolting! They want less eu rules less green legislation, less fuel taxation supporting net zero etc.



One thing is what they say and another is what they want.
I live in an agricultural area...
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Re: "By 2030 the European Union will be history."

Postby Burgerman » 27 Feb 2024, 21:32

Brussels has tractors parked across all main streets. They buldozed all the police barriers and fired slurry from their machines (shit) at the cops! Fires from huge piles of tyres everywhere and they built a concrete/brick wall around the EU offices... Same in paris. EU directives for green/net zero going really well :lol:
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