That phone call...

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That phone call...

Postby Burgerman » 04 Apr 2024, 08:01

Directly after the skipper did this to a huge container ship, and in addition destroyed the baltimore bridge he would have had to call his boss.

How would you begin that conversation. I would love to have heard that call. "boss, this is gonna make you laugh, err, I have had a little bump..."

Do you think hes fired?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83a7h3kkgPg LIVE CAM.

The bridge, the ship, the compensation for all the gear in the hundreds of containers, the compensation for all the customers awaiting delivery of their new nikon Z8 cameras for e.g, the bridge demolition and rebuild costs, and all the business that is lost and employees that cannot get to work, the ship itself and the costs of it being out of action and loss of business. Do you think that they will take it out of his wages? :lol:
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Postby biscuit » 04 Apr 2024, 10:20

Drifting on the current towards an obstacle without any power? Terrifying in a different league from angry bosses. The stuff of PTSD. The crew did all they could to advert the collision.
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Re: That phone call...

Postby Burgerman » 04 Apr 2024, 11:37

Did they?
That container ship has 4 generators, backups of backups, seperated fuel systems, several main engines, several additional backup smaller engines, and basically backups of backups of backups. And they somehow allowed all of that to fail. So something was either configured wrong, used wrong, or allowed to become faulty and ignored over time, and so sailing while relying on some single system. And even the steering system which is electrically controlled and driven, has multiple backup motors and control systems and can even be controlled manually. For what its worth the main engines were still running is the black (normal) heavy oil engines smoke comming from the thing means anything! And thats STILL the skippers problem one way or another as its all his responsibility. Either through ignoring previous issues and sailing anyway or bad decisions later on or soe combination.

But it will take 1 to 2 years befor the full report that decides all this will be released apparently. In the meantime the economic disaster in that area is just beginning! And that will likely be paid by insurers. Which is paid for in premiums across the insurance industry. Like your house and car insurance...
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Re: That phone call...

Postby HiltonP » 04 Apr 2024, 14:08

Burgerman wrote:The bridge, the ship, the compensation for all the gear in the hundreds of containers, the compensation for all the customers awaiting delivery of their new nikon Z8 cameras for e.g, the bridge demolition and rebuild costs, and all the business that is lost and employees that cannot get to work, the ship itself and the costs of it being out of action and loss of business..... :lol:


Not to mention the dead bridge road repair workers.....
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Re: That phone call...

Postby biscuit » 04 Apr 2024, 15:51

Like the aeroplanes plummeting or with doors opening mid air, the trains jumping off the tracks, the power station blackouts, etc. etc., everyone assumes a different department is taking care of the maintenance.
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Postby Burgerman » 04 Apr 2024, 17:30

Yes. But the man in charge, the captain is ultimately in charge. Unless some maintainance has been marked as done and it wasnt.

For e.g a pilot may choose to fly to an airport with a long runway as the pilot of my DC10 holiday plane did when I flew to majorca on 1990. With inactive engine reversers. That meant a longer landing roll out than normal. He explained to us that te runwaw was a full 2 miles long so no problem. That was his final choice as he considered it safe as the runway was long enough without engine braking. Had anything gone wrong on the way and he had needed to divert to a shorter runway then he would be responsible if it ran off the runway. The captain is ultimately in charge in most cases. The man at the top is ultimately responsible.

The civil service is a super lefty woke bunch of anti british pro EU losers. And they are making it extremely difficult for the conservative party to ever stop the small boats, or to properly do brexit for e.g. But sunak is ultimately responsible. And is about to get a kicking at the next erection. The man in charge is ultimately to blame.
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Postby biscuit » 04 Apr 2024, 17:47

Made since the 80's, after which everybody started getting too important to do mundane maintenance work.
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Re: That phone call...

Postby martin007 » 04 Apr 2024, 17:52

The man in charge of the container ship was perhaps not the right person.
People are getting stupider and stupider.
It's very difficult to find competent people today.
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Re: That phone call...

Postby Burgerman » 04 Apr 2024, 18:41

Tell me about it...
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Re: That phone call...

Postby slomobile » 29 Apr 2024, 20:00

Burgerman wrote:Do you think hes fired?

Absolutely not. He is working harder now than ever in his life. Just a different kind of work.
Eventually, yeah. But they need to pay him to stick around and be the scapegoat for a while.
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Re: That phone call...

Postby Burgerman » 29 Apr 2024, 21:20

I am going to see if the internet knows!
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