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Postby Burgerman » 29 Oct 2017, 12:04

Just saw my brothers OLED TV. OLED is in a totally different league. My mouth is still open... :worship :admirer :clap

Total vivid saturated colours, and black is so black that you cant see the TV is even switched on at all in a dark room on a black scene. Its just total off/black.

Contrast ration is just wild. So I connected my laptop! As a PC monitor. Photos just look absolutely amazing. Windows looks amazing! I have bright colourful windows icons sat on a totally completely black sheet of glass. czy :shock: :thumbup:

I am absolutely amazed. Stuff my two 30 inch DEL monitors.
I am selling them on ebay. And the money will almost cover buying one of these 55 inch OLED TVs as a PC monitor. Yes its bigger. But its slightly lower dpi so it can sit at the back of my bench further away.
http://www.trustedreviews.com/reviews/lg-b7

Go look at one! As a PC monitor, 4k resolution, and super saturated colours and totally true blacs, and a contrast ratio that makes a normal LCD look as if its an old photograph.
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Re: OLED

Postby Burgerman » 29 Oct 2017, 13:44

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My new 55 inch LG OLED55C7V
Is on its way! A real monitor! Not cheap. But my two 30 inch monitors should cover at least half of it.
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Re: OLED

Postby Burgerman » 29 Oct 2017, 14:19

Or maybe not if it sufferers burn in issues...
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Re: OLED

Postby Gnomatic » 29 Oct 2017, 17:14

Yeah, the image quality of OLED is the truth. :worship
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Re: OLED

Postby Burgerman » 29 Oct 2017, 17:55

Seemsthat burn in is a problem though on static images :cussing :cussing :cussing :cussing :cussing
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Re: OLED

Postby Gnomatic » 30 Oct 2017, 21:11

Burgerman wrote:Seemsthat burn in is a problem though on static images :cussing :cussing :cussing :cussing :cussing


That would explain why OLED PC monitors are few and far between. Hope they get the burn in issues fixed because the tech has great IQ.
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Re: OLED

Postby Burgerman » 31 Oct 2017, 05:10

You should check out a modern OLED TV. Its like someone just threw away the TV and opened the window. But each pixel is a diode. And diodes fade or wear out.

LED lights in the house, lose around 10% brightness in the first year. They wear out. So a fixed icon or bright area, will wear out faster. Dunno if thats fixable on a screen. :thumbdown: Although, having seen the difference I am tempted to risk it, and turn down the brightness a lot. Its way brighter than we need for a PC anyway. Burns out your eyes too.
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Re: OLED

Postby sad_vampire » 01 Nov 2017, 23:18

OLEDs are still evolving but they are indeed stunning.

I'm currently enjoying a rather different type of monitor, an Oculus Rift.

Wow, just WOW!

VR still has some way to go too, but I'm stunned by how far it has come.
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Re: OLED

Postby Burgerman » 01 Nov 2017, 23:35

Well burn iun or not I decided I had to do it.

5 year warranty and burn in included... So I bought one. Just wow. I cannot get over the detail, the absolute blacks, and amusingly the stupidly low power usage when displaying black scenes or a black desktop. About 10 watts.

Movies and PC are just astounding. The thing looks small on these pics. But in reality its like lookiung at a door!
For scale, I added a four stroke heavy petrol leaf blower. And a tin of coke. The PC case is an extra large and wide all glass one too. But this pic doesent do it justice. Check out the two shrunken bench power supplies!

Trust me iut looks like a door in real life! Its 55 inches with a 6mm bezel, all glass. And true black, infinite contrast, and bright enough to need welding gogles. I hat to turn it down.
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Re: OLED

Postby expresso » 02 Nov 2017, 04:19

thats a great TV - OLED is the only replacement i would get for my MAIN movie TV - i cant justify it just yet since i love my current TV - Pioneer 500M plasma
the last Gen they managed to get out before it went under -

it dosnt do it justice in a Store to view the OLED or any TV really but its still amazing even in the Store - - as a computer screen - thats HUGE - and expensive for that usage -

LG would be my pick - price wise and cant beat that picture - - i seen a SONY OLED also - way over priced compared to LG - Glad that LG didnt give up on OLED - Sony - Samsung - they were trying to knock it down - now its a done deal - OLED will survive and only get better -

hopefully the costs come down by the time i need one - Mines is only used for Movies at night - and its amazing - so i can just imagaine the OLED
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Re: OLED

Postby Burgerman » 02 Nov 2017, 15:22

Yes but... This is my desktop monitor! It is absolutely gorgous. But its not connected to any antenna, etc. Only to my PC.

As a PC monitor, (also used for bluray movies, etc) its absolutely amazing. And same for photo or movie editing. Because it (finally !!!) allows perfect blacks, its possible to see low level detail, infinite contrast etc.

But just for web browsing, office, etc it works unbelievable well. Its just as pin sharp and colour accurate as my 30" dell pro 3014 monitors. Only with far, far better contrast, brightness, and true black at every angle.

Because its dot pitch even at 4K (Ultra HD. 4K UHD (2160p) a resolution of 3840 pixels × 2160 lines) is around 15% bigger than the Dells, it means it works better for older eyes! Or you can move it back a liuttle on the desk. So you get enough real estate to run 3 1080P movies at full resolution at once, and still have 1920 x 1080 pixels (same as most good laptops) to play with for web surfing/working... Its rediculous! :clap czy :lol:
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Re: OLED

Postby hank » 02 Nov 2017, 15:31

That looks proper. :thumbup:
Get some videos up when all set up and sorted. :dance :dance
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Re: OLED

Postby expresso » 02 Nov 2017, 23:02

looks great - :thumbup: i would be afraid of burn in etc, - static images - - but hey - enjoy it if you can - now or never right -

i am looking when time comes - may be years - but going to 65 inch - in place of my 50 now - since it may only be 5 inches difference overall - with the thin bezels now - compared to the thick ones from back then

for movie TV - not computer - i dont have room for a monitor that large for computer use - i though 27 was good when i got mines
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Re: OLED

Postby Burgerman » 02 Nov 2017, 23:19

I doubt burn in will be an issue. Full brightness and HDR is crazy bright for a PC monitor, so I have a profile set up with an on screen brightness thats a bit brighter than a PC monitor, but thats nowhere near the full brightness. And an even lower one at 15% power for night time.

And I made everything on the desktop vanish. The icons, all gone! The task bar, vanishes and reapears when I need it. And I set it up to sleep if no actiuon after 15 mins. On the PC. And a 4 hour max on the Monitor. So its unlikely to be an issue. And you worry far too much. This thing is absolutely staggering as a PC monitor. Noty only size, but detail, accuraccy, pin sharp fonts, total blacks even in a dark room. Looks like its off! Like a black glass sheet. And good colour, contrast, etc at every vewing angle even extremes. Took a lot of setting up to get it like this. Half a day?
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Re: OLED

Postby expresso » 02 Nov 2017, 23:28

i worry too much haha - i love it - but never considered it for a computer monitor use - but hey - if you can make it work - why not -

i dont have room for it as a computer monitor - but for a TV to replace my plasma - thats something i can and will do at some point - just not yet - i actually feel bad getting rid of my plasma - i love it - - i am sure once i had an OLED replacement- i wont feel bad after that :)

i most likely will replace my PC before that - i may even consider a larger monitor - but 27 or 30 isnt that big a deal -
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Postby expresso » 02 Nov 2017, 23:31

whats the big differences with the models ? LG OLED C7V - or C7P etc, or B7A

i hate when it gets too confusing with the models -
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Postby expresso » 02 Nov 2017, 23:42

http://www.tvsuperstores.com/LG_C7_Seri ... gLto_D_BwE

great price

cheaper than my computer !!!!
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Re: OLED

Postby Burgerman » 03 Nov 2017, 01:46

Anything with C7 and 55 is the same basically. They have different stands, and a different glass edge on some, and the C6 were last years and curved. Witrh different firmware and the C7 are supposed to be better in a number of ways - inc burn in, and not changing screen brightness with dynamic auto range etc.

Mines the one you want. Lots of research. 55C7V
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Re: OLED

Postby expresso » 03 Nov 2017, 01:56

i am loving it - and cant wait till the day comes that its my time to upgrade - i feel satisified with them - - i was worried that i couldnt replace my 500M with a better TV - i am feeling good now that its not the case - but not ready just yet - i let it mature and cost comes down - main reason - my TV is still amazing to watch - anyone who watches it -says the same - cant compare a good plasma to any LCD LED TV - even todays i wont trade it in for -

OLED - only TV that woud be a upgrade for me - i can relax now knowing there is a better one out there when its time for me
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Re: OLED

Postby Gnomatic » 03 Nov 2017, 23:27

Well that looks freaking glorious. Now I I'm starting to want to retire my 30" Dell. Is 55" too big sitting @the same distance? I'm not suter I could fit over 50"
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Re: OLED

Postby Burgerman » 03 Nov 2017, 23:58

Its perfect!

And 55 corner to corner is 49 inches wide.
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Re: OLED

Postby Burgerman » 04 Nov 2017, 01:22

20 hours per day, max 100% led brightness, HDR on, same static repeated image patterns, and so far it has made a mark.

But for PC use, HDR off, brightness 35 in the day, 12 at evening/night... You only need silly brightness to watch movies in your lounge in the daytime, with HDR on. If you try to use it as a PC like that you would need welding goggles on. Thats what burns leds...

And black desktop, etc. All icons are in a folder on the disapearing task bar so screen is empty if I dont have anything running. Screen saver if unatended on black screen, and monitor sleeps after 15 mins. So I expect to never get burn in. Movies, TV programs, full screen, not a problem bar 2 news channels with a ticker tape bar along the bottom. Even then, with brightness at sane lavels, I doubt it will be an issue. And the B7 and the C7 models are suposed to have less burn in problems. And when I asked at the very large dealer he said that of all the ones they get back that wasnt ever the reason. And gave me 5 years warranty that is aftermarket, thrown in. Burn in included! Written on it.

So I am not very worried!
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Re: OLED

Postby Burgerman » 04 Nov 2017, 03:16

I must add that once you have figured out how to configure the PC to use a TV properly, spent 12 hours configuring the TV and learning how to trick it into behaving just like a monitor, with laser sharp fonts, etc and colour calibrated it etc, theres no going back to the 2x 30 inch 3014 dell pro monitors. No way. Burn in or not. If it was covered in burn in, it would still make 10 of the dells. You got to see this thing, now I have it fully configured.

Even just windows icons appear to be floating impossibly on a completely black surface that looks like water. Like they are painted on to ultra smooth black glass. With no "glow" around them. They look sort of solid, unreal. This thing is just amazing as a PC monitor. And I have had a lot of high end expensive monitors. Getting it configured to be like this took a hell of a lot of time and effort though. Plug and play with stock PC and stock TV sttings looked terrible! But it can be done.

For photo editing its crazy good. I am an enthusiastic hobbyist with a Nikon D810 and about half a dozen of nikons best lenses. I like quality! My freind is an arty wedding and landscape photographer. He was swearing for about 2 hours. Kept going home to get images to look at. He too has some pro photo editing gear. It makes all of them look rediculous.

This has just as wide gamut (wider in fact) than adobe and has a truly massive contrast levels (infinite in fact!) meaning that you really dont need it set as bright as a typical mnitor, as you can see shadow detail against the pure black regardless. (my night time brightness is set to just 10 at the moment. And its fine and photos and chargts still look perfect!

And completely true black and not just the big areas. The pixel next to one that is as bright as the sun is completely off. No bleed. You dont notice this on your dell pro monitor because you are so used to ignoring the glow around bright areas maybe a pixel or so. I also think, set screensaver etc, and brightness at sensible level of 10 to 35% (which is plenty brighter than a typical monitor), no burn in issues. And you get 55 inch screen, and 3840 pixels × 2160 of perfect uniformity, no contrast or black change at any angle (so looking at a massive door sized screen close up from a desktop isnt an issue). Its just monumentally good.

And for PC use the thing is a lot better than the 2016 one. (if you are interested I can give the changes). There are a few. All important! And the cost of these has gone from 3k in april, to 1600 inc free cables, and free 5 year extended warranty. So now is the time!
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Re: OLED

Postby Burgerman » 05 Nov 2017, 02:56

2 days in, and other than feeling crap with another (same) bladder infection I couldnt be happier.

Its absolutely superb with a couple of downsides. Since its a TV.

When you shut down a PC the monitor shuts down automatically. The TV says, no input for a few seconds, then displays some (very impressive) landscape images as its built in screensaver, for maybe 10 mins. Then it shuts down.

When you restart the PC you also need to switch on the TV too... But its got a great compact remote. So its easy.
Which is actually a good thing. Since I connect wirelessely to the desktop PC in an evening from my laptop, etc, or if elsewhere in the house, and this wakes up the PC, so I can work on it, without starting up the OLED screen.

Everything else it does, once set up correctly (took a day!) makes a PC monitor look like a very sad old fashioned thing. RIP monitors. I cant go back to that. :fencing
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Re: OLED

Postby Burgerman » 06 Nov 2017, 01:57

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P1ze7OAwXT8

Aparently pretty good as a TV too.
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Re: OLED

Postby snaker » 06 Nov 2017, 03:10

Gnomatic wrote:Well that looks freaking glorious. Now I I'm starting to want to retire my 30" Dell. Is 55" too big sitting @the same distance? I'm not suter I could fit over 50"

I am dreaming of a 30inch monitor to replace my 10 years old 22inch. I just need a bigger screen (to read text easily) and power saving and cheapest as possible, no matter of technologies. Which one should I consider?

I do not dare to dream about 50inch :cussing
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Re: OLED

Postby Burgerman » 06 Nov 2017, 09:54

Yes thats caused by socialism. Do you have any TV there cheaply with any kind of DIGITAL connector such as HDMI or Display port? Or even old analog subD with 3 rows of pins?

Maybe in your living room... Try that.
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