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Postby Burgerman » 18 May 2018, 16:32

Texas. Santa fe high. So far 8 dead.

There will be another one along in a minute... :ak47

More guns, more guns. You must need more guns! Wait for it! :clap

We have not had a school shooting, in 22 years. Prior to that? Just ONE ever.
Do you want to know why? Yep. No guns.

Do you want to see how bad the US is? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_s ... ted_States
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Postby Burgerman » 18 May 2018, 17:21

Arm the teachers. Dont sell guns to mentalists. It takes a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy, etc etc. All these rediculous things will be repeated by the gun nuts across the US. Again. As they were the last few hundred times. Because obviously getting shut of publiic owned guns makes no sense! Anything but that. Any excuse under the sun. Any distortion of reality. Anything but actually fix the problem.
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Postby Rye » 18 May 2018, 17:48

Search mass murder in the US, not mass shootings. Mass murder will exist without guns.
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Postby Burgerman » 18 May 2018, 17:56

It does. But only with bombs, or the odd vehicle. But there are an enourmous amount of death by guns. And fery few of anything else.

Whats more the murder with everything but guns figure matches the murder rate in the UK pretty well. The gun mass of deaths are extra!

Likewise when australia banned guns or introduced severe control, the murder, mass shootings, deaths by all means dropped a lot. What does not happen, is that people kill with something else if theres no gun in most cases. As the figures all demonstrate. In australia the death rate remains much lower years afterwards.
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Postby Rye » 19 May 2018, 13:25

You're correct. Take away guns and there won't be any shootings. Take away cars and there won't be any vehicular manslaughter. Take away everybody's hands and there will be no more fist fights. Take away freedom and we are all slaves. It's happening little by little. Troubled people that want to kill, will kill with whatever they have at their disposal. The most recent mass murderer had enough homemade explosives to kill just as many people without guns. He is only 15 and the Internet probably provided him with all the info he needed to make those explosives. Guns are not the problem...it's a mentality perpetuated through the instant exposure of social media. It's also testosterone and antisocial personalities. I feel for the dead, the injured, and the troubled young MEN that commit these atrocities. You can't compare Australia to the US. It's the same size as the US, but with less than the population of California.
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Postby Burgerman » 19 May 2018, 15:31

Actual population is not relevant. You simply compare by percentages. Per population head. And its not just australia. When they removed the guns, the deaths dropped. A lot. And they STAYED dropped. ALL deaths. Inc suicides. Just as they do every place. People in the main, do not use other means to kill in place of guns, as the data shows. That bit of gun nut propaganda has well and truly been put to bed. You can keep on saying it, but its simply not true.

You're correct. Take away guns and there won't be any shootings. Take away cars and there won't be any vehicular manslaughter. Take away everybody's hands and there will be no more fist fights.

The big difference that you are missing (on purpose) is that we require cars and society has decided that with adequate controls the benefit outweighs the risk. Modern society isnt possible without planes, trains, and automobiles, and obviously we need hands. We do not need CIVILLIAN guns unless for legitimate work purposes or hunting rifles with adequte controls. As many (most safe civilised) countries have already shown. I understand why you want one. Me too! But if it means that the sort of people that I see on my travels can then also get one, legaly or otherwise, then thanks but no thanks. I would rather go without. And that is the problem.
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