Paris Is Burning

[martin007]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-46411699

[sacharlie]

Let me get my popcorn!

[Burgerman]

They voted a pro EU, open borders, globalist elite socialist into power. Who is taxing them to death to give high minimum wage, save the planet, house lots of muslim immigrants, pay high benefits, etc etc. What could go wrong!!!

And now its making them poorer (obviously) and they dont like it. Macrons socialism, planet saving, and liberalism seems a bit unpopular. He only got in because they were scared of le pen and her anti EU, anti immigration populist movement... They were stupid. They got what they asked for. They should have voted le pen.

What else do we know about the protests?

The movement has grown via social media to encompass rising anger at high taxes and living costs, and broader criticism of President Macron's economic policies. It has supporters across the political spectrum, from far left to far right, although Mr Macron has accused his political opponents of hijacking the movement in order to block his reform programme.

His socialist "reforms" have come back to bite as the public feel much poorer! And are angry.

[Scooterman]

[martin007]

The question is...

How long is it going to endure the holla pressure?

[Burgerman]

Till they figure out that saving the planet - even if CO2 was the main cause of the warming, which is still far from clear - is both ridiculous and unaffordable. All these overpriced and ineffective solar/wind solutions are horrendously expensive. So your bills go up! Electric cars are subsidized by the government, meaning that the tax payer, is paying the crazy price of these, not the users. And they insist that its all essential. Even though it wont make a blind bit of difference! What it WILL do is decrease the standards of living, as it has already. Make business suffer to pay for the cost of vehicles and fuel, to pay this expense too. That means higher costs, so again the man in the street pays more for goods and fuel and less bisiness means less wealth. Macrons other socialist reforms all cost too. So they are rioting as they are feeling poor!!!

Well the french got what they voted for. Most are socialists. When will it stop? When they stop expecting guaranteed high wages, big holidays, stop wasting money trying to save the planet, etc etc. But those are all the things they voted in. Macron. They should have voted in a trump or a more intelligent more polite version of him. Or le pen. The result of more free hand outs, more social give a ways, more guaranteed holidays and guaranteed minimum wages , etc etc and of more government control, and EU control and rules, is more poverty, less to spend. And thats exactly what they are getting and rioting about. So when will it change? When they learn.

ONE of the things he is doing however is a GOOD non socialist thing. He also wants to try to make France richer, to pay for saving the planet etc. By reforming the traditionally extremely socialist french labour laws. That make business very difficult and guarantee at least 10% unemployment. The french are very unionistic. And that slows business, and makes the people poor. So:

Macron's latest reform isnt socialist. It aims to entirely reorganize the French labour market, which is traditionally protective of workers’ rights, while drastically moving the power into the employers’ and companies’ hands.

The government, however, has promised that “these reforms... will bring more freedom, more protection and more chance of equality to 18 million employees, three million companies and 2.6 million job seekers.”

The project will be officially introduced during the ministers’ council on 22 September.

There are 3,000 measures in the French Labour law, or “Code du travail”. Re-writing and amending such a text is a meaningful signal, and a massive challenge.

Unemployment in France has hovered around 10 per cent for years (that’s about twice the UK’s rate). This reform is supposed to be the first step towards lower unemployment and a more attractive French market. Measures proposed include modifying the two main working contracts, the “CDI” or “Contract for an Indeterminate Period” (for permanent positions, highly protective of the employee’s rights) and the “CDD” or “Contract for a Determined period” (for temporary positions). Most French employees work on one or the other but the “indeterminate” contract is seen by employers as too rigid because it supervises lay-offs under strict rules.

https://www.newstatesman.com/world/euro ... y-about-it

And they dont like that either because they think they are losing rights. Which they are, but it would make them richer and reduce unemployment.

[martin007]

So when will it change? When they learn.

This afternoon the Spanish gave a blow on the table..


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/1 ... /#comments

[Burgerman]

Well you currently have a left wing socialist in power. So a little right wing politics is a good thing. The right are gaining power in most of the EU if you take a look around. Because the people are sick of the open borders, EU socialist control, etc etc.

[Gnomatic]

Our advertisements .....


youtu.be/fnOcwy3Jle0

[Burgerman]

I dont get it.


However... Bee in bonnet. I went to the US. And when in one of your bars, I ask what s you had. I was told you had "both kinds" meaning one was lite. Seriously?

First, all the budweiser/millar/etc is not its lager. 2ndly real pubs have around 20 or 30 draught and 4 or 5 lager s.And plenty more bottled. And they come in many colours and dark/light/strong, bitters, brown ales, dark stuff like Guinness or 20 other makes etc.

Beer.

[Burgerman]

And this is what we think of religion in the UK today. MANY churches are now pubs, clubs, or homes. Since we no longer need imaginary friends over here!

Typical traditional pubs https://www.google.com/search?client=fi ... 8&dpr=1.25

[Burgerman]

Beers.

[Gnomatic]

Here, is categorized as an ale(top fermenting, room temperature), or a lager(cool fermentation ) like most our domestics. However, there has been a massive explosion in local, small microbreweries her on this side of the pond over the last decade or two.

And yes, I know of several old abandoned churches that have been converted to pubs, complete with their own house crafted IPA etc etc...... It's become a fad here, one which I enjoy.

I used to homebrew, it was fun.

[Burgerman]

Good! So religion is gradually disappearing? And real s taking their place? Thats marvelous!
I watch the Athiest Exp out of Austin Texas regularly, as it makes me laugh.



Because here, as far as native British white people are concerned, its gone. I dont know anyone religous.Theres a few old people, and some immigrants. The rest of us dont consider ourselves athiest. Any more than we are afairyist or aunicornist etc. Religion is just not thought about. Meaning lots of abandoned churches that make excellent pubs! And thats the best use as far as I know!

Here, scroll till they start taking calls:

youtu.be/QAQ3OHOy0ww

[Burgerman]

Still dont get that millar ad?

[MichaelB]

I spotted this today which you might like BM https://www.facebook.com/rflam00/videos ... 288388411/ video only on facebook no youtube link

[Burgerman]

It should say "And never has done"...

And the web, personal computers, facebook, twitter, and youtube that you mentioned, and that book, would never even exist under a socialist idealist system. Because those and everything else we enjoy like food, are the products of capitalism!