Backup Solutions ?

[steves1977uk]

This is one of my 6yrs+ old Samsung 840 EVO SSDs...

Stilll has 98% life left in it. Will probably last another 20-30yrs.

Steve

[expresso]

same here on my SSD - i had it 6 years maybe when i built this PC - both my WD Black internal Drives are fine also - come to think of it - i paid about the same for each WD Black 2T drive back then as i did for the new SSD 2T today -

i managed to get most things off the failed drive - i just keep at it slowly - but not the videos -

[Burgerman]

They are the biggest files on the drive. So far more likely to have some parts of them in the failed areas.

Do them one at a time if it lets you.

[expresso]

yeah have to stick with SSD from now on - i can use them in my next PC also - can leave them all inside - since they are small and light - thats a concern of mines - having large heavy drives makes the whole PC heavy to handle for my girls if i need to work on it or move it etc,

[Burgerman]

New PC cases only really allow for SSDs. Some have space for old hard drives too, but the bays and structure are removable.

I have 2x my SSD on the opposite side behind the motherboard. Theres room for 4 there! Looks cool. So my case has full glass window for both sides. And 2 more on the front side in view. Leaves lots of space for thick full height front radiator. And then theres 2x M.2 PCIe NVMe drives fixed to the motherboard. So with 6 SSDs, you only see 2, and the whole front of the PC is empty bar the radiator.

[expresso]

The case you have is what i have saved in my List - But the smaller one - not full or Mid - compact small - i like to go with the small form factor MB - some i seen can hold 2 of those MV2 slots on the board - which i will use both - then just add SSD inside also - it allows for WC - also - i believe 120MM units - on top - with large 200mm front fan.

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B074W5GQJ3/ ... _lig_dp_it

i had this saved for the day when i am ready but looks like its no longer there - i want something this size - light small - fast - 120mm water cooled at least - and no more CD roms installed - worse case i have an external unit - intel or Amd when times comes - who knows - we see then - i just want to make it simple clean fast cool and compact

not many small form factor MB

[expresso]

i mean 240mm units at least will be using

[Burgerman]

Dont worry, they keep on bringing out the same thing with small updates. So there will be a newer version.

[expresso]

i dont see many MB for this small size - what are the best MB for this small form factor ?

i dont need much - one video card is fine - two slots of memory is fine - 16 gig each slot - more than enough or just max it from the start - i want it small and light - as can be - so easier for my girls to move if needed - small so dosnt take as much desk space since i leave it on my desk now - - fast any new chip will be fast now - , then cool and quiet!!!

[Burgerman]

That depends on which intel cpu liine - not all use same sockets, or which AMD cpu you prefer. And how much you want to pay. Just look up the best 2020 boards at the moment.

This place is where I always end up. They only keep up to date high end stuff. Including micro atx boards and mini iTX board and systems. And bundles that match. And full systems, And everything in between. https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components

Inc cases so only you can decide. Have a look around. But beware of going too high spec as the price gets high.

But it will give you a list of compatible parts that work well together. Esp if you loo at their pre built systems in detail.

[Burgerman]

E.G. A mini itx case that you like https://www.overclockers.co.uk/phanteks ... 6v-pt.html
And a itx AMD motherboard https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-compo ... =0&sSort=2
Or an intel itx motherboard https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-compo ... =0&sSort=2

etc...

[expresso]

i wonder this time around if its worth buying a ready made system instead of building it myself - that place is in the UK - do they sell ready made to the US ?

i got my new SSD in today - wont get the case for it till Wed. - its been a while - when i plug it in - do i have to format it ? etc. or will it just show up in Windows ? i am glad i went with the SSD - its so light and compact - just what i needed - BX500 Crucial is the model

on a new system - i dont need the top of the line high end everything - but good enough to run fast quiet - stay cool and small compact case - i was thinking itx would be the smallest - Micro dosnt seem that much smaller than the full size -

[Burgerman]

Not sure, but dont do that. Our prices are much higher than the US, plus shipping etc.
There must be places similar in the US you are a HUGE country. Yes buy a ready built system from somewhere similar.

I ordered a relative a ready built overclocked system, from www.overclockers.co.uk and paid with bitcoin, as they accept! It was built and cable managed beutifully with all the bast cables and colour matched parts, cooling tubes etc. A work of art that you could only do if its your day job! Better than I could do, because thay have all the options sat on racks to look at! And they done it before.

You can still add your extra disks, etc afterwards.

[Burgerman]

Plug it into the PC, right click my computer. Choose MANAGE.

Then choose DISK MANAGEMENT from the tree on the left. It will show up as a empty disk. Right click it, and choose whatever you want. One large as possible GDP disk partition, NTFS, and click go! is what I would do. Its instant. Done. Give it any drive letter YOU want! Close console.

Now its visible in windows explorer. You can now re-name it, STORAGE_EXT or Dave, for e.g. and copy stuff to it, re format it or anything you want.

Yes itx is the one you should go for if you want small but limited in options and boards restricted in choice of peripherals.
micro atx for performance in a case around 3 inches shorter than you expect, compact water systems can still be done.
atx for plenty space added cards, bigger radiators for overclocking etc with space for pumps, 2 graphics cards for gamers and so on. One GOOD nvidia card can now do 4K gaming on its own. So of debatable value for most.

[Burgerman]

https://techguided.com/best-mini-itx-motherboard/

This will help you.

[expresso]

ok thanks - when time comes - i may just do that - get one ready build if they can do the case i want -

[expresso]

In order to make the SSD card work inside my PC - would i just need the one Sata Cable or also a power cable ? if its just the one cable that i plug in the MB - i may be able to do that with out taking it apart much - but if i need it to be powered on its own - more work - i have to open the back side where all the wiring is etc,

i want to avoid doing that - i have it running in an external case - which is nice - but its not as fast as it can be this way -

what is needed both or just one sate to the MB ?

thanks

[Burgerman]

Both. A small sata cable, you should have plenty headers. And a small power cable, there should be 2 on the end of the ones already plugged into your HDs. Plugging it in should be trivial. USB 3 is fast. You appear to be plugged into a USB2 port - 10x slower, not always bi-directional...

[expresso]

i have it on the USB Hub its 3.0 - i can try it direct in a 3.0 USB on the PC

i dont feel like taking it apart for this - if i have to touch power cables - i have them in the rear case - hidden - and stuffed good - dont feel like touching that now - i can live with it this way for now i guess

Transfer speed varies - up to 98 MB a sec

[expresso]

https://smile.amazon.com/Sabrent-Connec ... 161&sr=8-6

[expresso]

i gave up on the failed drive - got tired of playing around with it - i formated it - ran a windows error scan and was fine - but we know something is wrong with it - failed - is there a way to get this drive to be safe again - where it would block out the bad section and only use the good part ?

i wont put anything on there that i want to keep though - just wondering if that can be done -

[steves1977uk]

Do a full format on the drive, not a quick one which is the default in Windows. A full format marks the bad sectors unusable, but there'll be likely more over time. It'd be ok for temp stuff like converting videos to MKV format as long as you copy the final encoded one straight off!

Steve

[expresso]

how do i do a full format - i only find quick formats - in Disk manag also


i figure if it can lock out the bad sections - and leave only the good working - instead of having 2T drive - end up with 1T but all good - would be good if there was a way to know where - so if you partition is - keeping the bad section on one side ?

anyway - how to Run a full format ?

[Burgerman]

The SCAN/FIX command steve suggested was basically a full format, which will remap the bad sectors on that drive and make it "look" good again like all the used ones on eBay... In a dos box type format c: and press enter. (That was a joke) Type format whatever drive you want to format. Thats not how things are done today though. We moved on from dos.

If you are worried about destroying data on those drives, just fill them completely full of movies or copies of the same movie. That overwrites everything.

Theres no need to do that on any SSD.

[expresso]

this is not an SSD - how do i do a full format - what is the command etc ??

[Burgerman]

Format! Format /q is a fast version as used in windows.

[Burgerman]

But, how long do you have to waste?

[expresso]

Format! Format /q is a fast version as used in windows.

dosnt work -

[Burgerman]

More importantly what do you think a full format will do?

[Burgerman]

dosnt work -

Not surprised! Dos no longer exists its an emulation in windows.

Tell me what are you trying to achieve?
What do you think a full format is?