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Four X - What we think about it?

PostPosted: 03 Dec 2014, 18:38
by tutatu
For my taste, design is little... different.

I see that easly can overcome 15-20+ cm obstacles. Climb up 1-2 steps. Very good, stable for ruff offroad, snow. Good indoors, even possible to go down stairs.

Ugly wheels and battery box, odd seating position. All in all, clever design and functionality.

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Re: Four X - What we think about it?

PostPosted: 03 Dec 2014, 19:57
by Burgerman
Like all small electric cars its ultimately a bit pointless. Doesn't work indoors properly miles too big. It will likely get wheelchair users tarred with the same brush and then we will not be welcome in pubs, shops etc.
So really isn't a wheelchair and doesn't work properly indoors.

Requires you to transport it to wherever you want to use it off road as it will have run out of steam by the time it arrives anywhere. Requires that you then swap one chair for another (transfer) after towing it or transporting it in a vehicle you can drive from a proper wheelchair. Or if you did drive it to the venue where you needed it, a couple of hours "off road" means you definitely wont get home again. Of course if you live on a farm it has its place. In which case lithium would improve it. Slightly.

And silly money. There are massively better and very quiet, much cheaper petrol versions around that work way better outdoors, with far more range, speed and less weight. Everything for the disabled doesn't need to be lumbered with batteries, slow speeds, and dozens of zeros...

There are thousands of such electric off road "wheelchairs" made. All much the same. Mostly because it seems like a licence to steal your wallet just because its battery powered.

All of them perform worse, cost more than say something like this at £3550 or 5k us dollars:

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/ATOMIK-ATX-4 ... 360wt_1124

Twist and go, quiet, electric start, 4x4, no foot pedals needed. 55kph and more see spec. That makes "off road wheelchairs" look silly. There are smaller, slower, single cylinder ones, for HALF of this price.


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Re: Four X - What we think about it?

PostPosted: 03 Dec 2014, 23:10
by nandol
a portrait of my dayly view just after tomorrow...brasileiras are so hot !! :D
i´ll give news fellas,cheers

Re: Four X - What we think about it?

PostPosted: 04 Dec 2014, 00:51
by Burgerman
Err, can you translate that?

Did you ever get your stuff?

Re: Four X - What we think about it?

PostPosted: 25 Sep 2016, 20:21
by midtoad
Yes, the battery box is unusual. However, don't see any way to store it away neatly under the seat without affecting excellent ground clearance.

sure you can buy electric or gas powered ATVs, but those will not be allowed on many sidewalks or pathways.

And yes, it may be slightly more bulky for indoor use, but that seems like a small price to pay for its incredible outdoor capabilities. Of course, if getting out into nature isn't important for you, then this chair would be a poor choice for you.

Re: Four X - What we think about it?

PostPosted: 25 Sep 2016, 20:35
by Burgerman
It isnt usable indoors as a wheelchair as such, at all.

Re: Four X - What we think about it?

PostPosted: 26 Sep 2016, 16:02
by Sully
I would not blenket disapprove, or condemn of this chair without using it myself ! And in all the conditions I want to use it in. ie: indoors and outdoors as well. I think the fact it articulates is the major factor for manuevering it anywhere.

I have three main issues I am curious about;
1) battery power, would the factory install a power storage unit of my choice and likely pre-fabrication?
2) Difficuty to achieve experienced dependable service within the USA, or is a comprehensive set of service electrical/mechanical as well as parts manuals available with purchase so either I can service it or I can hire it done?
3) The tires and wheels--- is there a set of tubeless airfilled tires >4" available as factory installation for this machine?

What is the actual price of a machine such as this machine as I suggested ? Notice each item I asked for seems very important to me, I would not consider dropping any of the afore mentioned requirements. Anyone who has every bought or operated any kind of nachine made by human beings knows that they do break down of cease to function as it did when new, bit wider tires for running and floating over on sugar sand, air filled for comfort and traction, Power storge for weight and distance is also more that a bit important, I know and understand why the factory would install what appear to be a pair of 110 AH batteries. But installing at a minimum a set of 110AH LiFePO4 batteries to power such a machine would be the minmum power I believe "I" would desire.