Alber Adventure Powerchair Review

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Alber Adventure Powerchair Review

Postby Burgerman » 28 Feb 2010, 13:49

http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/alber-a ... rchair.htm (My review)

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Re: Alber Adventure Powerchair Review

Postby CPguy » 09 Apr 2010, 09:31

I wish to add some stuff: I have driven this chair for 4 weeks (while my main chair was being repaired) both in the Austrian Alps (Tyrol) and in Vienna (a fairly flat town).

- It was supplied with a huge off board charger with no means to transport it on the WC. The need to return to the charger decreases range.
- steering is only for grandmas.
- the large casters are indeed a huge bonus
- The OEM tires only have minimal grip; I found it seriously dangerous on a level wet surface. Decending slops can be very dangerous (slidding). Has sufficient power and grip ascending slops though.
- the anti-tip wheels are mounted far too low. They can suspend the rear (drive) wheel in mid air when decending a curb.
- There is a high probability that you get stuck then attempting to drive over "cable bridges" (is that the correct term?) as the rear wheels do not have sufficient grip to drive over them. (In such a case, the cable bridge is between the casters and the rear drive wheel.)

No comment on range as I only used it for short (2 km max.) trips. Also I never took the chair apart for transportant (A claimed advantage stated by the producer)

Conclusion: Extremly good loooking chair, large front casters are very usefull. However, as an outdoor chair I could only recommend it as a spare chair.

P.S.: Here a picture of a very small "cable bridge": http://www.gifas.at/kabelbruecken/gross ... ruecke.htm
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Re: Alber Adventure Powerchair Review

Postby bulldog » 15 Mar 2011, 13:22

sorry for my english i have a aber adventure since 2 months in afternoon i have doing 15km the tires is not good for the road, the grass, it's no good for all ground just good for snow
it's confortable if the shock absorber is'nt for a weight exactly of the personn driver i think is not good in the house too bigger you can make a long promenade the look is good
when i make more with the wheelchair i put somes photos and video on the site thank you all wheelchairdriver
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Re: Alber Adventure Powerchair Review

Postby bulldog » 25 May 2011, 10:16

6 months with this wheelchair you can drive on the long race more 30km it's not very confortable on the road if you go fast all the time The batterie are good after 6 months use.
The front wheels are very good for go on the sidewalk 8cm
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Re: Alber Adventure Powerchair Review

Postby dgt » 25 Jun 2012, 16:41

Interesting; I rather like my Adventure. The batteries last well, it can be programmed, it is widely adjustable, it is comfortable and it is rather nicely made.

Yes, the planet gears could be quieter and, for me, the front castors could benefit from less trail; the do 'flop' at low speed manoeuvres.

However, taken all round, as an outdoor chair, it does the job nicely for me.

Just my opinion of course.

Dave. ;)
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Re: Alber Adventure Powerchair Review

Postby malamar » 26 Jun 2012, 11:25

I must say that i didn`t consider Invacare as an option over Sunrise, but now , come to know a little more about power chairs, i start dreaming of a "special edition" of an Alber Adventure.
It's to wide and heavy, so i`ll think of a center batts section a la Bm3, all alloy tubed frame, turf tyres, brushless motors already implemented...With his big clearance to ground and first rate shock, batteries and controller, should become one of the very best...I believe.
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Re: Alber Adventure Powerchair Review

Postby Burgerman » 26 Jun 2012, 11:28

Invacare?
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Re: Alber Adventure Powerchair Review

Postby malamar » 26 Jun 2012, 14:09

Yes, if not wrong...

Invacare Alber Adventure

The Alber Adventure powerchair is suitable for indoor and outdoor use with spring suspension on all wheels.

The Invacare Alber Adventure Powerchair Wheelchair is suitable for indoor or outdoor use. With spring suspension on all wheel and a joystick control the Alber Adventure features a modular design intended to cover long distances and various terrain. Along with anti tip supports and quick release castors the chair has two removable hub powered wheels, a standard seating unit or adjustable function seat. The two battery packs come with an automatic battery charger. The Invacare Alber Adventure Powerchair also has a range of optional extras.

Easy to dismantle; the seat, each wheel and battery packs can be removed without tools.
Seat Width From 380 mm to 520 mm
Load Capacity (supplier stated) 140 kg
Weight (kg) 96.7 kg
Turning Circle 880 mm

Suitability
Transportation – Can take into a car with a ramp/hoist. Occupied transportation may be possible with correct tie down or clamping systems should you wish to remain in the chair whilst travelling. Because of their size these models will generally need a larger vehicle to be transported.
Range -Up to 30 miles due to the larger batteries.
Seating Options At this level and dependent upon model chosen, you can configure the chair to the measurements/specification you require. Various seating options may also be available to accommodate spinal or pressure requirements. Including raising /tilting or reclining seats
Seat sizing – The size of seats in this group can vary considerably from 16″ up to 24″.
Ideal user requirements – somebody who wants to use the chair most of the time outd oors and also travel out to local shops etc.
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Re: Alber Adventure Powerchair Review

Postby Burgerman » 26 Jun 2012, 14:27

Maybe they bought Alber out?

Strange. Either way its not really an all day every day solid chair. More a shopping chair thats hard to take apoart and put back together so you generally wouldnt bother.
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Re: Alber Adventure Powerchair Review

Postby n.woodford » 27 May 2013, 12:32

The batteries on this chair only live for about 18 months and at £520 plus delivery and fitting is over £550 a set. After 3 years my wifes alber needs its 3rd set. A 1 year guarantee is just not good enough.
I am activley searching for an alternative set at a realistic price. We are living on my pension and just cannot acept this type of running cost. If my car had an item that expired every 14 to 18 months I would consider it to be a defect in design, but of coirse my car comes with a comprehensive 3 year guarantee not a very poor 12month one.
We would not consider spending £6500 again on this chair unless they can do something about this issue.
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Re: Alber Adventure Powerchair Review

Postby n.woodford » 27 May 2013, 12:33

The batteries on this chair only live for about 18 months and at £520 plus delivery and fitting is over £550 a set. After 3 years my wifes alber needs its 3rd set. A 1 year guarantee is just not good enough.
I am activley searching for an alternative set at a realistic price. We are living on my pension and just cannot acept this type of running cost. If my car had an item that expired every 14 to 18 months I would consider it to be a defect in design, but of coirse my car comes with a comprehensive 3 year guarantee not a very poor 12month one.
We would not consider spending £6500 again on this chair unless they can do something about this issue.
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Re: Alber Adventure Powerchair Review

Postby Fulliautomatix » 27 May 2013, 12:46

n.woodford wrote:The batteries on this chair only live for about 18 months and at £520 plus delivery and fitting is over £550 a set. After 3 years my wifes alber needs its 3rd set. A 1 year guarantee is just not good enough.

Are you using/charging/maintaining them correctly?
The industry standard powerchair chargers are responsible for a lot of good batteries dying!
Have you seen these pages?
http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/charging-batteries.htm
http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/my-batteries.htm
http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/hyperion.htm
http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/maintain-power-wheelchair-batteries.htm
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Re: Alber Adventure Powerchair Review

Postby Burgerman » 27 May 2013, 12:58

Its like this. Lead batteries are crap. The BEST lead batteries (Odyssey, or MK Gel, depending on your needs) are still crap, the rest are worse and not worth buying.

An MK can give 500 cycles in a lab, charged CORRECTLY and fully and as soon as it is discharged. In the real world, powerchair chargers are less than ideal, so you do not get a full charge, and charge volts are often higher than ideal. As such you can expect anything from 200 to 400 cycles real world, depending how you treat them. Realistically, that's a year under heavy use.

Mine last me MUCH longer (typically 3 years) however because I practice what I preach.

Charge several times a day when I get the chance, as I drive my van, sit at my PC like now, and fully for 8 to 12 hours overnight.

The deeper you discharge them the shorter their life.
The less often you FULLY recharge them the shorter they will live.
The further away from the perfect charge voltage your charger is, the shorter their life will be.

Its also why my BM3 batteries are lithium (45 miles range) and 2000 cycles - charged every few days, means 10 years plus life.
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Re: Alber Adventure Powerchair Review

Postby Burgerman » 27 May 2013, 13:01

After 3 years my wifes alber needs its 3rd set.


Alber adventure? It uses batteries that are way too small, so they get discharged far too deeply on a daily basis.

If you want to use lead batteries on an all day powerchair, you must get one that takes 70Ah group 24 sized batteries as a basic necessity.

Less, like the alber, means very fast deterioration (and limited range).

USING the BEST batteries (MK GEL, Odyssey, Sonnenschein A500 and NO OTHER!) you get approx. the following:

20 percent discharge daily = 5000 cycles.
40 percent discharge = 3000 cycles.
60 percent 800 to 1000 cycles...
80 percent 400 to 500 cycles...
90 percent 200 to 300 cycles...
100 percent 25 to 100 cycles at very best.
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Re: Alber Adventure Powerchair Review

Postby fuzzy logic » 10 Nov 2014, 22:43

Two 12v 17ah batteries in each power pack (the 12kmh needs two power packs or it will not operate at full speed) so they do not make a decent amount between them a solve able problem with a better power source. The rear tyres have other options http://www.wheelchairspecialists.co.uk/ ... aspx?id=31 the black off road tires are still a little narrow but should offer some more traction on soft ground.
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