Without that system you have anarchy.
Almost all the Brexit high profile figures mentioned how easy it would be to get a deal on trade pre vote.
Davis, Fox, Farage swiftly changing tack as they realised that it wasn't going to be easy. Water under the bridge now as they are too inept to do better than May's deal. Even worse Farage will claim he can.
No individual EU country stands to lose as much as us, our exports to EU £230bn, Germany who are the biggest selling to us £80bn.
But it isn't just about the goods sold it is the movement of parts and sub assemblies like car engines and whether it is viable to assemble here, duty and bonded warehouse is a PITA for anyone bringing parts from the EU assembling here then selling back into EU. That needs clarifying now, you can't stop production and wait for a deal.
Germany won't lose those car sales, we'll just pay more for German cars as the EU will pay more for UK made products. The question is whether the consumer will pay or switch to a different supplier. Personally I drive a UK made van and buy as much as I can UK made, sadly most Leavers I know are the opposite. Let someone else make Britain great again.
Farage is incapable of achieving anything, look at his record as an MEP, he was meant to represent the UK on the fishing committee, attended 1 out of 42 meetings. That sums him up, not bothered about doing what he can for our industry, just wants out of the EU but no idea what comes next. If May had delivered Brexit we'd never have heard of him again.
Even then we still have the likes of Fox failing miserably at securing any new deals
so until we get decent politicians we'll never really know if there is potential outside the EU . Chaos and not helpful to UK business until we get clarity.
If May delivers Brexit what use is a Brexit party?
If we didn't want a deal why were so many Leavers saying that it would be easy to get one? It is not even about a deal at the moment we are still stuck on the divorce settlement. And will end up paying even if we don't get a deal.
If May does deliver Brexit it is done, we are out albeit tied into a backstop and a few other things we shouldn't be. It won't be renegotiated we are stuck with it. The next part of the negotiating is future trade but AFAIK that doesn't need parliament approval so no place for Brexit party. No-one can change that, if she tries again with the Withdrawal Agreement next week and gets it through we are screwed and nothing either of us can do about that.
If May's agreement gets through we are out,
we won't be able to renegotiate it,
we can't ask to come back in to discuss coming out.
The only way is a second vote - May's deal or no deal BEFORE she signs the UK away especially if Labour get a customs union as part of it. After we leave we can discuss trade but I don't think that the EU will be bothered unless on their terms, the single market is too important for them.
And if that BBC4 documentary was anything to go by the EU wanted recordings of the £39bn bill being agreed, they want that so we can't get out of paying. Screwed yet again.
wheelie junkie wrote: All those rich emerging economies want to sell to us not us to them and if it was so great a potential why hasn't Fox signed them up? .
Burgerman wrote:You still dont get it.#If May's agreement gets through we are out,
Wrong we are 75 percent still in, complete with no seat at the table and 40 billion wasted. About as for from out as its possible to get. Read it.we won't be able to renegotiate it,
We wont need to. We will just actually leave. With or without the EUs 'permission'!we can't ask to come back in to discuss coming out.
And why would we need or want to do that? Thats retarded.The only way is a second vote - May's deal or no deal BEFORE she signs the UK away especially if Labour get a customs union as part of it. After we leave we can discuss trade but I don't think that the EU will be bothered unless on their terms, the single market is too important for them.
A vote for mays deal is remain. So that should be off the table as we already voted leave. As vote for remain is the same. We already voted leave. So your ballot paper has one thing left... LEAVE.
As for eu trade deal afterwards, thats their choice. We are their biggest market. I dont much care as WTO is fine regardless. And they WILL do a deal anyway.And if that BBC4 documentary was anything to go by the EU wanted recordings of the £39bn bill being agreed, they want that so we can't get out of paying. Screwed yet again.
Only a FOOL or a remainer intending to screw us over would have ever offered that. As I say you have a housewife doing the job that a businessman should be doing, with a bunch of remainers (parliment) shouting in the background. She did it on purpose or she was unbelievably dumb. Like a child.
wheelie junkie wrote: All those rich emerging economies want to sell to us not us to them and if it was so great a potential why hasn't Fox signed them up? .
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