Burgerman wrote:Yes it can do 50A, AND 60V too. Its 3kw capable.
Burgerman wrote:Yes it can do 50A, AND 60V too. Its 3kw capable.
1, six feet charge cable with GREY_TO _RED Andersons.
2, GREY Anderson_to _EC5 to power your PL8.
steves1977uk wrote:The aluminium cased Shirley PSU requires a DIY mod for high power via an Anderson SB50 connector. The banana plugs would probably be ok upto 20A, but any more you'll need to mod it. The guide to do this is on here somewhere!
Steve
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Red-Black-10 ... SwBPxcdXIO
ONLY use these. And silicone hobby style cable.
I buy these in packs of 20 or 25. And use them for everything. Including the charger inputs, and fly leads on power supplies. And everything else. Even my electric bed and drill. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GREY-ANDERSO ... SwqHBa3vn0
Silicone charge cable. 12AWG
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Silicone-Wir ... zuO_pfDmiw
And essential, http://www.store.revolectrix.com/Produc ... sion/FUIM3
If you plan on doing lihium, best get a bunch of these to use later. http://www.store.revolectrix.com/Produc ... sion-Cable
steves1977uk wrote:Yep then that's correct. All you need is a Grey SB50 to two Red SB50s wired in parallel to charge each battery at 12v (14.1v for MK Gels) and set termination current of 31mA (1000th of Capacity) or stop after 8hrs. Not sure if the PSU switches off when the termination current is reached.
Steve
LROBBINS wrote:It goes to whatever float voltage you've set. It doesn't have a timer, however, so you have to set the termination current higher than ideal, and higher still if tired, old batteries. (If the batteries are old, or only very slightly discharged even if new, it's best to monitor current as CV ends and make sure it doesn't start to rise. If so the termination current is set too high and you're getting out gassing.)
Burgerman wrote:If you set say .2 or .3A (300mA) then it will drop to your preset 27.2V or whatever float volts you choose. It doesent matter that you dont go to 1000thC if you are allowing it to go to float afterwards. Float also completes the charge, it just takes longer.
Which is why in cyclic use its best to set a very low termination current like 1000thC or 8 hours, and no need for float. 2 stage and done! It just ensures a complete charge in the shortest overnight time available.
But a 4 to 6 hour at CV or terminate CV stage 2 at 1/500thC or sooner and then float at lower voltage to complete the charge will also work. It just takes more time to 100%.
I've configured it a 3-stage charger to suit 30Ah gel battery.
Extra cables you need :
1, six feet charge cable with GREY_TO _RED Andersons.
2, GREY Anderson_to _EC5 to power your PL8.
if I leave SB50 grey in case.
Burgerman wrote:Where to start.
Theres one button on that shorley power supply. It can be pushed, turned, and has a menu that isnt intuitive.
If you do not understand what a 2 stage or 3 stage charge profile is you will be confused.
Shirley has likely set it to charge an unknown 30Ah battery.
Then its plug and play like this.
http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/gopro/3stage.mp4
What it will do is this:
The CHARGE CURRENT is set by you (or shirley) anything from 0 to 50Amps. You can set this to 12 or less and its then safe to charge via an XLR connector.
The CHARGE VOLTS is set by you (or shirley). This can be from 0V to 60V. The correct voltage for gel batteries is 14.1 or 28.2 in series. And for AGM batteries 14.4 or 28V if in series.
The TERMINATION point, where it switches to FLOAT is also set by you. Choose .2 or .3V if it never falls to .1V after say 6 to 8 hours.
The FLOAT voltage is also set by you. To 13.6 or 27.2V if in series for both battery types.
optical10 wrote:Okay think I'm getting it and thanks for the video. From the video I then realise that rather than using the XLR connector like you have done I can just use the Shirley grey rear Anderson SB50, make a six-foot set of Silicone charge cable 12AWG straight to my batteries (which I presume are in parallel in the attached image) with the available red Anderson SB50 (see image) and not use the PL8 for now?
Irving wrote:optical10 wrote:Okay think I'm getting it and thanks for the video. From the video I then realise that rather than using the XLR connector like you have done I can just use the Shirley grey rear Anderson SB50, make a six-foot set of Silicone charge cable 12AWG straight to my batteries (which I presume are in parallel in the attached image) with the available red Anderson SB50 (see image) and not use the PL8 for now?
NO they are in series if that's the standard joining cable.
optical10 wrote:Irving wrote:optical10 wrote:Okay think I'm getting it and thanks for the video. From the video I then realise that rather than using the XLR connector like you have done I can just use the Shirley grey rear Anderson SB50, make a six-foot set of Silicone charge cable 12AWG straight to my batteries (which I presume are in parallel in the attached image) with the available red Anderson SB50 (see image) and not use the PL8 for now?
NO they are in series if that's the standard joining cable.
Many thanks, glad I included the image, guess I need to order a XLR connector to connect a six-foot charge cable to the Shirley grey rear Anderson SB50 to be able to charge batteries in situ in their standard serial configuration like burgerman did in his video?
http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/gopro/3stage.mp4
Burgerman wrote:They are only 30A batts, so 15 to 20A is likely the max they will take. Unless high quality like Odyssey or something. If gel, you should charge at around 1/3rd to 40% based on capacity. So 10 to 15A or 20 at a push.
Since XLR is limited to 12A ,it will be easier to use the output poles at the front .
Burgerman wrote:What does it say on the charger.?
What is the control system? I never saw a 12V one...
Cant tell where any of those wires go in those pics.
Irving wrote:On the RH battery both wires go to the black Anderson, but the black goes via the thermal cutout; this is a definite clue they are wired in series. On the LH battery the red wire will go to the black Anderson on the black wire side, the black wire from the battery and the red one from the black Anderson will go to the red Anderson. If you want to be 100% sure, measure the volts at the red Anderson - it'll be 24v for sure as the paperwork says!
flagman1776 wrote:I haven't been following your posts so I have no idea what's been done here. .........
The thing is the polarity must be correct and we can't tell from here if is it. Or if a mistake has been made.
EDIT: Irving and I agree... I didn't see the thermal breaker. He posted as I was typing.
Yes to grey SB50 --- XLR .
Since XLR is limited to 12A ,it will be easier to use the output poles at the front .
Cut a XLR charge lead from any spare charger. Strip the +/- wires . CHECK POLARITY .
Connect to power poles .
Set amp to 8 ---- 12A , and go .
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