Burgerman wrote:I looked, and read. Dont see anywhere that tells you anything actually useful other than it makes pretty pictures on your phone? What does the charger do? In detail. And can that phone app change it?
Blue Smart Chargers – Customizable charge profile
These chargers have a six or seven-step charge algorithms which is optimal for all common Lead Acid and Lithium Batteries. There is no need to tweak or update settings – in fact in many cases tweaking could result in an inferior charge performance for the batteries than with the default settings.
However, in some situations more specific settings are required, and these are now available. The new settings are configurable Absorption, Float and Storage voltages. As well as the Recondition setting and configurable temperature compensation value.
For even further tweaking there is the Expert mode; once enabled, the app allows changing practically all parameters and time limits used by the charge algorithm. Such as Bulk time limit, maximum absorption time and more.
Burgerman wrote:It controls the BLUE chargers right? I just downloaded the tech sheet for those. They seem to have a set of preset setting for various things. But as usual not enough details or specs to say if they are any good or not. If you can find the chargers spec sheet (not a phone ap that supposed to work for many of their solar/non solar chargers I can take a look.
Can that app control the actual charge, float voltages to the ones we need on the specific charger you will use it with? And more importantly can you set the CV time limit, the CV current termination point, and so on?
Burgerman wrote:But how is this any simpler than the PL8?
steves1977uk wrote:Well that's a well thought out program! See screenshot...
Both the Absorption and Storage voltages cannot be set below 48v! The only thing I could set properly was the Float volts to 27.20. Maybe it allows you to change them if the charger is connected.
Steve
c500user wrote:
John, could you have a look and see if a proper 73Ah MK Gel charging setup can be made?
Thanks,
Albert
c500user wrote:Burgerman wrote:But how is this any simpler than the PL8?
Once setup it is connect-and-forget.
jefferso wrote:I don't know yet if the update will be able to change anything on the IP22.
jefferso wrote:I have yet to find something small and light that can do 20A or more, at least at the right voltage.
The Victron IP22 does have a 16A model which is the same size/weight (1.3kg 235 x 108 x 65 mm). I think some have 3 outputs, some have 1.
I found it here for £186.90, not cheap. (The 24v/12a is currently £162.00)
https://www.batterymegastore.co.uk/prod ... 241642002/
They have 10% off right now. Still not cheap.
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Burgerman wrote:I use, my van as I drive. Anything up to around 60 amp, soon falls below 25.
2 different 40A adjustable bench supplies next to my computer. Just set to 28.2V and 40A and plug in.
Shirleys 50A supply, set to the right volts.
My old 30A charger thats been used for years.
rover220 wrote:They do a 30a 12v model aswell.
jefferso wrote:Burgerman wrote:I use, my van as I drive. Anything up to around 60 amp, soon falls below 25.
2 different 40A adjustable bench supplies next to my computer. Just set to 28.2V and 40A and plug in.
Shirleys 50A supply, set to the right volts.
My old 30A charger thats been used for years.
When I travel, it's by public transport, and the charger I take is competing for space and weight in a backpack. If I ever got a van, I'd definitely want a setup like yours to charge as I drive.
The bench supplies I've seen are all fairly heavy, bulky and often in sharp cornered metal cases. Not to mention upwards of £300. (More financially painful if stolen, lost or damaged while travelling.)
I think someone said Shirley's excellent ZXD2400 based charger is 4 or 5 kg (I saw a photo which said 3.8kg, 134mm x 87mm x 318mm). Great for home use, but a bit too heavy and bulky for travel for me.
So far, the Victron IP22 is in the sweet spot for my needs, for weight, size, voltage, amps, cost and ability to monitor via bluetooth. The cost is high, but shaving off a kilo or two over the course of a trip is worth a lot to me.rover220 wrote:They do a 30a 12v model aswell.
Wouldn't it take 2 of those (one for each 12v battery) to deliver 30A to a 24v system?
Burgerman wrote:I charge my chairs at 12v in parallel, and 24v in series. So tha my van can charge directly.
But if you take your 2 lead batteries and connect in parallelthen you double the Ah and so you need to double the charge amps too. So theres no gain.
Rover means http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/faster- ... arging.htm
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