Gnomatic wrote:The X5 is a good climber. It can go up pretty steep grades, but it loses traction before it can reach a point that it'll tip backwards. Much easier to tip backwards with my previous RWD chairs, even with the anti-tippers on the back when climbing steep grades.
I have tipped it on its side while traversing a steep grassy hill sideways. I was leaning to the upside of the hill while going across, and did not see a hole on the downside of the hill I drove my downside drive tire into. Over I went, not fun. Compared to other chairs I've had, the Frontier is relatively more difficult to tip over. Believe me, I've tried. Sometimes, those heavy lead bricks come in handy as a nice ballast, keeping the chair's center of gravity low.
Its one f my concerns going lithium. I'll probably put a heavy steel plate under my pack once its in my chair, so the CoG doesn't change too much.
you need the chair you have now - or an off road chair - if i had to pick a different chair than what i have now - if i had not choice - i would consider the V4 - unless i have choice for other models with higher speeds etc, -
and your concern about the lithium is correct - my chair felt great with the lithium - but since the day i crashed - i realized it had some what something to do with it besides me just going too fast in a spot where - some bikes get off and walk them down and around the curve - - that should have been a wake up -
being that i done it haft dozen times already - that one time - things went wrong - and i crashed - i realize how dangerous that area is and wonder why i even went that fast - i was so excited over this lithium and speed and range - i was high all summer with it
i been back after and will always - but i SLOW it down in that area not only with joystick i slow the speeds down so i cant go faster till i clear it and then i can speed it up -
the few times i used the chair with the extra ADD ON pack also - it added more weight on the rear and felt better - more traction - etc, between my tires going bad - low grip on them - the speed - myself - down hill on a curve sideways leaning - bit damp also - less weight on rear - and i crashed -
i though i only bent the sidearm post - but i noticed i bent the upper frame also - you dont feel it at all - and hard to even notice it - i only recently noticed it when i added the breaker - i noticed it in the photos i took for the breaker - i realized its bent in the photos -
but now i know - its limits more or less - and mines also - i hope i learned my lesson - if i make another ADD ON over the winter - i may just connect it and leave it there - dosnt harm me leaving it there connected -
i guess 50 lbs less makes a difference
finally got my new PL 8 - just updated with presets and ready to use it for a bit to test it -