Muslims and why Trump is right

[Lord Chatterley]

http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/267300-trump-boycott-isnt-about-kelly-its-about-fox-being

Donald Trump is the first alpha male to run for president since L.B.J., but his opponents think it's clever to claim that he's "scared" of Fox News Channel's Megyn Kelly because he's said he's skipping this week's Republican debate. This is like attacking 2012 Republican nominee Mitt Romney for being a libertine — or President Bill Clinton for being boring.

In addition to being the only candidate who will build a wall and deport illegals, apparently Trump is the only candidate who knows how to land a punch.

Whenever you hear someone say Trump is boycotting the debate because of Kelly, remember that he didn't pull out until Fox issued a juvenile press release, saying it had heard from "a secret back channel that the Ayatollah and Putin both intend to treat Donald Trump unfairly" and "a nefarious source tells us that Trump has his own secret plan to replace the Cabinet with his Twitter followers."
Wow — where did Trump ever get the idea that Fox was treating him badly?

Fox has made a habit of insulting Trump — provided he's not there to respond. After the first debate — which, incidentally, all the polls say Trump won — Fox let it be known that the moderators had been prepared to forcibly remove Trump from the debate if he failed to follow the rules. Brett Baier even revealed their cute little speech before they would escort him to the elevator: "We don't want to have to escort you to the elevator outside this boardroom. But we're locked and loaded."

Trump has gotten along well enough with bankers, unions, mafia dons and New York City bureaucrats to make himself a billionaire. Why him? Why not Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas)? And why leak it after it was obviously not necessary?

It's true that Trump has focused his complaints about Fox News's coverage of him on the network's star anchor, Kelly. I assume he's using Kelly as a cat's paw for an attack against the entire Rupert Murdoch enterprise, which is implacably pro-open borders, pro-amnesty and, consequently, anti-Trump.

No one thinks Kelly was up in her office alone, furiously scribbling her questions for Trump. Before that first debate, there were stories all over about the whole Fox News team working on the debate questions.

But most people don't know who Murdoch is. Kelly is a star. By attacking her, Trump anathematizes the entire, pro-amnesty network.

One of the biggest problems facing the nation is that viewers think of Fox as the "conservative" network. If NBC or ABC were this spiteful to Trump, everyone would see it for what it is: political bias. Your enemies can never hurt you; only your "friends" can.

Fox News's bias is more insidious. The hosts avoid stridently attacking Trump. You simply never hear from any pro-Trump guests — unless they're completely ineffective. Immigration-opponents have been aggressively shut out — just as they were when Mr. Amnesty John McCain was running for president in 2008; when the Senate was debating Sen. Marco Rubio's (R-Fla.) amnesty bill in 2013; and when congressional Republicans were trying to defund President Obama's executive amnesty last year.

Are you seeing the pattern? When it comes to immigration, Fox News is indistinguishable from George Soros.

After each of the six debates, Fox News commentators, hosts, analysts, focus groups and body language experts all crapped on Trump and proclaimed pro-amnesty Rubio "the winner." (By the fourth debate, I began playing "Carnac the Magnificent" on Twitter, predicting "Marco Rubio" to the question, "Who will Fox News claim won the debate?")

Then all the polls would come out showing Trump the resounding winner.

But with every other news outlet screaming that Fox News is the extreme right-wing network, most Fox viewers are completely clueless. Surely, Fox News is giving us the best anti-immigration case you're going to find anywhere, since Fox News is "our" network.

For the "conservative" network to be pro-open borders is like secretly switching a diabetic's insulin with sugar. The false labeling is lethal. Millions of people watch Fox News and think they're getting the conservative antidote, when in fact the open borders corporatists have found a new way to package their open borders poison.

One of the hardest things to notice is what you're not being told. Immigration is the issue shaking up this entire election and driving Trump to the top of the polls. But at Fox News, immigration is Issue No. 22 — after Iran, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Russia, Russian President Vladimir Putin, Benghazi, Hillary Clinton's emails, ISIS, ISIS, ISIS, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the Export-Import Bank, entitlements reform, ISIS and everything else.

This week, we found out that Fox News plans to have "YouTube stars" at this week's debate asking regular, ordinary man-on-the-street questions that are on the mind of every Republican primary voter. One of the "YouTube stars" is an illegal alien. Another is an anti-Trump Muslim.

You won't read about Fox News's open-borders philosophy in National Review. You won't hear about it on almost any "conservative" webpages, magazines, radio shows, Twitter feeds or blogs. Fox News is the only game in town for conservative commentators and politicians. That's why no other candidate would dare cross Fox.

It took the first alpha male running for president in half a century to stand up to the Fox cartel on "conservative" opinion. Viewers beware: The only "conservative" opinion allowed on Fox News involves dissolving the nation's borders.

Judging by Donald Trump's astonishing rise in the polls, any cable network that took America's side on immigration would end the Fox News monopoly — and make America great again.

[Sully]

You do understand that Faux News is Rupert Murdoch don't you? Need we say anything more? You booted him from GB and Australia said good riddance to him as well, so he Applied and got US Citizenship on the fast track and now owns many news, sports and entertainment outlets (News Papers, magazines, computer and TV communications networks. He has even bought the National Geographic magazine.

He and Trump are just like tornado's they wreak their havoc and disappear until they strike again.

[Lord Chatterley]

See the woman on the left Huma Abedin - her family are members of the Muslim Brotherhood whose constitution calls for the destruction of the USA.

“The process of settlement is a ‘Civilization-Jihadist Process’ with all the word means. The Ikhwan [Muslim Brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers…”
“[W]e must possess a mastery of the art of ‘coalitions’, the art of ‘absorption’ and the principles of ‘cooperation.’”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/02/01/foxs-rupert-murdoch/

So, as BM said, Trump is right.

LC

[Burgerman]

I completely agree.

The problem however is not muslims.
Its ALL irrational thinking and subsequent imaginary freinds.

I find all of them weird. If you ask them if they believe in bigfoot, fairies, elves, etc they laugh. They want *evidence* before they would even consider the claim. Yet as soon as it comes to their specific gods they change the rules! Suddenly that specific god is perfectly credible. Yet theres is *exactly* the same amount of evidence for all.

All the violence and problems, and abused children and all the rest all stem from a mix of "magical" thinking, and the inability to think in a rational logical way.

At least in this country its all basically ignored, the majority of people under say 60 are all sane rational athiests. Apart from the imigrants.

[Sully]

Quote; "Al-Resalah TV’s stated goal is to “present true Islam” If in fact what the Islamist's are presenting to the world is not true Islam, then what is true Islam? Is that being hidden behind some mythical door? No Mr Al-Resalah what we see is "TRUE" Islam presented by true Islamist's. What I have to hope is following the intent of my Nation and its sympathetic response that we either can defeat the scourge of this "True" Islam without eliminating the individuals who practice a "live and let live" philosophy, while still believing in their faith. This is the challenge of every nation on earth.

[Burgerman]

we either can defeat the scourge of this "True" Islam without eliminating the individuals who practice a "live and let live" philosophy, while still believing in their faith. This is the challenge of every nation on earth.

Therin lies the problem of ALL religion.

IF they actually BELIEVE their book, and do as it says, (like all religions and their evil books) then we have all the death and destruction and guilt we see for centuries, slavery, cutting up genitals, wars, conquests, abuse of women, stoning your children to death, hatred and slavery, murder of homosexuals, giving your youngest daughter to your male guiests regardless of age, and the abuse of disabled and destruction and guilt over sex etc etc. Much as we saw for centuries.

Or they DONT really believe it or read it all as metaphors and bulshit themselves and are the "live and let live" ones you refer to. But then they no longer believe their book/and so what "faith" is left? If their book is all full of bullshit to be ignored then thats it. So "live and let live" philosophy, while still believing in their faith is an oxymoron - it simply makes no sense. They have to throw out all the bits they dont like, and just believe cuddly bits of it and cherry pick at it, turn it and twist it to mean something else, and then their only "proof" of their god is now in tatters.

So as I said. Rational thinking, and so no "beliefs" at all are then possioble. Because once taught how to use loigic and reason it wouldnt be possible to believe in any of this garbage. And so no more problems.


EG... 1 tiny example.
"Though shalt not suffer a witch to live". That alone killed thousands of innocent people all over europe for 800 years... Until they stopped believing so strongly and chose to ignore that nasty bit... Some education made them realise it was bollocks.

Right now in Africa, the desperate are "helped" by christian missionaries who push their crap on them. So now we have a problem with (other than wars between muslims and xstians and massive torture) ignorant black people literally banging nails into littler girls heads while chained to trees to "drive out" witches... And worse. We wont mention condoms, and aids. Or child molestation. Or any of the other garbage. And thats because they are not ignoring the majority of the xstian bible. They are being "good" true xstians as taught.

[Lord Chatterley]

Starbucks bans women. More pandering to religion. Shrill feminists oddly silent. Go figure.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/261722/starbucks-bans-women-store-saudi-arabia-daniel-greenfield#.VrO8vbQPx-c.facebook

LC

[Sully]

Under the listings of StarBuck's I say; "Who Cares"? I bought one cup of that swill once, took one sip and dumped it ! Dishwater has to taste better.

[Burgerman]

I dont drink coffee. But I still think religion should not have the right to dictate what sane people do.

[Lord Chatterley]

Keep Sunday special!

LC

[Sully]

Keeping religion out of all this, in keeping with a 40 hour work week presumably Saturday and Sunday, it is quite handy to have days like that for keeping you mind and body straight.

They are days when the majority of folks can get together, go fishing, or get involved in all sorts of recreational efforts together or apart whatever trips your trigger. For me Sunday was the family kind of day with Saturday being the "Honey do" day. Of y'all who don't have the experience of having a spouse who pretty much governs your free time, probably don't give much credence to such things.

[Burgerman]

If society wants a weekend off and shuts everything sundays thats fine. Majority rules. But not whan religous nuts dictate it!

[Lord Chatterley]

On the anniversary of the attempted massacre in Garland.

http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2016/05/03/anniversary-first-islamic-state-attack-american-soil-war-just-begun/

LC

[Burgerman]

And all the lefties and other non sane (religious) people just ignore it.

[Burgerman]

And all the lefties and other non sane (religious) people just ignore it and cannot say religion is the cause. Its only extremists. They dont get that all religion is extreme if you actually believe it!

[Lord Chatterley]

If society wants a weekend off and shuts everything sundays thats fine. Majority rules. But not whan religous nuts dictate it!

It ain't fine by me - if I want to buy a bacon sandwich and a bottle of plonk on a Sunday morning and someone else wants to sell me a bacon sandwich and a bottle of plonk on a Sunday morning where does any majority get the right to intervene?

LC

[Burgerman]

Because thats how societies rules come about. We vote in polititions to make these decisions/laws for us.

Where I disagree is when its done because of some fruit cakes religous belief.

[Burgerman]

If I got into power tomorrow I would shut all churches and allow them to be opened up as pubs.

And ban religion, football, deport all muslims in 28 days...
Next would be child support/benefits, and housing benefit.

[Lord Chatterley]

Because thats how societies rules come about. We vote in polititions to make these decisions/laws for us.

And where do the laws of reality fit into this equation?

Suppose the voters elect politicians who decide to make laws at odds with laws of supply and demand, for example.

Is that okay?

LC

[Burgerman]

It is if they dont get voted out...

[sacharlie]

Laws at odds with supply and demand result in many peasants.

[Burgerman]

Yes true. But those in command are given the power to do that by the ignorant masses. We allow them to do this.

The fact that most do not make the right decisions to produce the strongest economy is unfortunate. To me its black and white. You need a relatively free capitalist economy, with a well controlled safety net for those that deserve it. And not the rest. You must manufacture or increase value and sell to the countries around you to get richer. And not the opposite! Likewise, having the bulk of working people all selling things to each other doesent make the country richer. Its just running around swapping stuff...

A country thats rich has no problem helping the disadvantaged. A comunistic socialist government is fairer on the face of it to the ignorant masses, but makes everyone poor. So the dissadvantaged actually do less well in the end when theres nothing left like all the communist countries, east germany, etc.

[sacharlie]

having the bulk of working people all selling things to each other doesent make the country richer. Its just running around swapping stuff...

That is the great service economy which the WEST has become. Anyone up for a hamburger?

[Burgerman]

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nati ... /85785254/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kwuYVU2zBE bbc news
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qST2203TGIU

Its not an act of terrorism. Its not "extremists". But nobody in the west will really say it. Its an act of the muslim religion. As instructed by every koran.

Vote trump. Kick out muslims.

The gun lobby say the answer here is MORE GUNS!

Trump: I was right about attacks

In an emailed statement, Mr Trump criticised Mr Obama and Mrs Clinton for not saying the words "radical Islam" in their respective statements.

He even called for Mr Obama to step down and Mrs Clinton to leave the presidential race over it.

The presumptive Republican nominee also alleged that hundreds "of migrants and their children" were "implicated in terrorism" since 9/11.

"If we do not get tough and smart real fast, we are not going to have a country anymore. Because our leaders are weak, I said this was going to happen – and it is only going to get worse."

Trump says he will add comments on the Orlando shooting to his previously scheduled speech on Monday

[Lord Chatterley]

Yes true. But those in command are given the power to do that by the ignorant masses. We allow them to do this.

This was one of the biggest differences between Ludwig von Mises [the 20th.c. greatest economist] and Ayn Rand [the 20th.c. greatest philosopher] .

Von Mises said - like Plato - that ordinary people were too thick to understand the truths of economics whereas Ayn Rand said the truth was a species of the real and ordinary people COULD discern and act in accordance to the laws of reality providing they were not forcefully mislead.

On economics Von Mises and Rand are almost identical but Rand was an optimist - not a pessimist like Von Mises.

It is interesting to me that ordinary people in this country favour Brexit and view religion and global warming as a hoax.

LC

[Burgerman]

Real scientists will tell you that global warming (and cooling) is very real.
The real question is:

1. Is any of it caused by us, and if so how much?
2. Is it a bad thing? Theres a LOT of evidence to show quite the contrary.

Right now theres been 12 to 14 years of no change, contrary to all the "models" prediction. And contrary to all the models we are not under water as predicted 15 years back, or close to it. So the truth is somewhere in between the bullshit exadurated hype, and that its all a hoax.

But since we are powerless right now to do anything anyway, without causing masssive problems with food production, heat etc then we should be more worried about if its really a bad thing. Because it appears that its quite the opposite.

[Sully]

I will not discuss Trump, except to cay he epitomizes everything I despise in a human being. and for another thing he is a Real Estate Salesman, they never tell anything resembling the truth, just what suits the moment. OK I got that off my shoulders. NOW----

Global Warming, Back about 30 or so years ago, there was a bunch of "so called" scientists were pushing the idea of an imminent Ice Age! Why ? Well--for the same reasons the current herd say is causing this Warming. I do understand that something is happening, in fact this planet and its atmosphere is always in some sort of flux. The entire galaxy is as well. If in fact "we" humans are to blame, we are likely 100 years, or more, too late to effect a reasonably effective change.

If we look at the earth at its life span, civilization of Humans has been here just a moment or a blink of that time. And it there have been more than a few ice ages as well as warming periods. Alaska was in a temperate zone for quite a few millennium. How do we suppose that came about? The Sciences were developed because certain facts were proven reproduce able. Most of the facts around this phenomenon haven't been reproduced to my knowledge, it is all conjecture.

[Burgerman]

Its actually all computer models. Using the exact same software, and exact same input variables that cant predict the weather a week away.

And 15 years ago these models predicted that by now we would be much warmer, and flooded, and all kinds of catastrophic problems. Which hasnt happened... Which should have proven that the models dont work. But that is ignored. It doesent fit what the envoiromentalists want to see.

Weather and climate is a massively complex intereacting system. Look up chaos theory. A seemingly unimportant miniscule inaccuracy in one of the input parameters or input data results in a wildly disproportionate change in the end results. And we dont even know what the parameters really are, or what inputs we need.. The only way a computer model can tell the real future is if:

We understood the exact affect of every different thing on everything else. For eg gamma rays on clouds... And we really dont! And we ont even know what things we actually need to consider.

In chaos theory the infamous butterfly flapping its wings really can cause a huge cyclone. So we would need to know about evey butterfly. Or rather every atom and molecule. In order to give a reliable prediction. And thats just not possible.

And who says warmer is bad?

Then theres this: http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/warming.pdf

[Lord Chatterley]

Saudi Arabia - wikileaks exposes the source of global terror-

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/22/world/europe/how-the-saudis-turned-kosovo-into-fertile-ground-for-isis.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0

LC

[Burgerman]

Summary of very long page. Religous people are crazy and the result of the desease is suffering and death and way. Wipe it out.