PINNED - Info on PROGRAMMING PGDT and others

[pollyandralphie]

Hi there.
I am VERY new to this fantastic ALADINS CAVE of information and hope my input can help someone.
The dynamic software is called WIZARD 5 and can be freely downloaded.
The problem then is getting the right DONGLE to work with it.
I was lucky enough to buy a dealer version from someone on Ebay but as yet, not used.
Hope this helps.

MY REQUEST PLEASE...........
Is there anyone on this site that can send me a OEM version of PGDT software for scooters and Powerchairs.
I have a DEALER version which I purchased but to be honest it is pants and does not give you much info at all.

Any help and direction would be much appreciated. I am happy to leave my Email address but not too sure if it would break any site regulations.

Thank you all.
pollyandralphie

[woodygb]

Check P.M.

[Burgerman]

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00QUZY4TW/ ... B00QUZY4R4

I tried 4 different types of adapters USB to Serial. Inc Prolific, etc and they are all hit and miss on different computers.

The FDTI cables like in the link above, just work, in every case on every machine reliably and fast. Dunno what the real differences are, but save yourselves a lot of greif. For all software we use. So if you are having problems seeig ports, recognising the chair, etc use this FDTI cable! https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00QUZY4TW/ ... B00QUZY4R4

[DSmidgit]

I am looking for the PGDT I-drive programmer OEM software. Can anyone provide this?

[Jer]

well my first shot at making a cable for my VSI was not successful
joined USB TX/RX lines together connected to pin 3
USB black GND to 2
connected and powered on chair
fired up program
COMMS INACTIVE (verified port is set correctly in programmer)

this is a prolific TA chip with 3 wires
red is usb tx
white is usb rx
black is usb gnd
its on the PCB so that was a no brainier
I have verifed the wired connections are sound using a multi meter

anyone have any idea how I can proceed from here to fix or test or where I can get a cable that 'just works'

Thanks

[woodygb]

Follow this guide for having the correct PL2303 DRIVER...http://www.miklor.com/COM/UV_Drivers.php

If that doesn't help try this.

Put a diode in the TX line and add in a 47k resistor from the USB plugs 5v.

[Jer]

Is there such a cable i buy that i can just plug in and it just works
Somewhat tired with messing this i just want to work
Any suggestions here

[Burgerman]

Sometimes in life you need to put a bit of effort in to get anything out.

Woodygb may make and sell you a cable, but while the cable may work the usb/serial/connection in windows may be problematic and to get it to work may require that effort again...

Even the official adapter and cable is a pain to make work, and needs some thought and care.

And from my experience the FTDI cables are way more repeatable and reliable.

[woodygb]

I changed over to using an FTDI cable TTL-232R-3V3-WE as the basis for ALL my programming leads maybe 3 years ago....
viewtopic.php?f=1&t=5488 ...please scroll thru the thread for current pricing.

@ B.M. ....You might consider altering the start of the pinned thread and removing any references to the Prolific / KPG cables and their variants....replacing any references and pics with the current FTDI Lead.

@Jer ...You could post it to me and I'll play with it FREE of charge ...other than £1 for postage.

[Jer]

I have know how to do so being a ham op but living on a farm with no car depending upon others in a small town makes getting those kind of components difficult since it would be a good drive i'd be ordering them online anyway I've already racked my as to what I can pull a part to find those bits without success so if I'm going to place an online order I might as well go all out and get the entire cable ready to go

[woodygb]

P.M. me and I can help.

[Jer]

PM sent

[woodygb]

Replied.

[wheels]

Hey guys,

R-Net PC Programmer (OEM edition) has just been updated to version v6.0.2 in Dec 2017, so if anyone wants the updated version, feel free to PM me and I'll send you a download link : )

And I've just uploaded the latest versions of all the R-Net programming and technical manuals for anyone to download if they so wish:
http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7541

All the best, Joe

R-Net PROGRAMMER Generic OEM RELEASE NOTES:

• Dec 2017 V6.0.2
  - Minor bug fix for IR Configurator Installation
• Dec 2017 v6.0.1
  - IR Configurator Upgrade
• June 2016 V6.0
  - CJSM2 support

[expresso]

Hey guys,

R-Net PC Programmer (OEM edition) has just been updated to version v6.0.2 in Dec 2017, so if anyone wants the updated version, feel free to PM me and I'll send you a download link : )

And I've just uploaded the latest versions of all the R-Net programming and technical manuals for anyone to download if they so wish:
http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/board/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=7541

All the best, Joe

R-Net PROGRAMMER Generic OEM RELEASE NOTES:

• Dec 2017 V6.0.2
  - Minor bug fix for IR Configurator Installation
• Dec 2017 v6.0.1
  - IR Configurator Upgrade
• June 2016 V6.0
  - CJSM2 support

PM sent

[Burgerman]

I think only the IR config thingy has any changes, but best to have the latest anyway.

I am looking for the latest OEM Sunrise version. Already have 6.1.1

[rover220]

I think only the IR config thingy has any changes, but best to have the latest anyway.

I am looking for the latest OEM Sunrise version. Already have 6.1.1

That's the latest one on the sunrise server.

[Burgerman]

OK fair enough. Thanks!

[expresso]

OK fair enough. Thanks!

Can you PM me the latest you have ?

thanks

[Burgerman]

PM!

[expresso]

PM!

got it thanks

[Burgerman]

Just been running through the defalt settings for my new chair in programming. Motor compensation 45 mOhms. Same as my BM3 motors. And same as my BM2 4 pole motors too. 3 different sets of 4 pole motors, all set to 45. So it beats me how expresso is managing with his set to a really low figure. Maybe in summer you should test it at 30, 35, and up to 45. See if it becomes more controllable.

[expresso]

my chair came stock at 30 for motor comp. on the Rnet 646se chair - maybe because its a faster motor 8.5 vs 6 ?

my other chair was set much higher at 65 - which was way too jerky - but i didnt know back then and since talking about that - its at 40 now and much better smoother

once i start using it again in the warmer days - i can set it higher and test it - i didnt touch it because it feels fine - but maybe i am missing out on something and will never know unless i try it at 35 , 40 etc

they are different motors - mines from yours - ? besides the speed - are they the same motors you think ?

[Burgerman]

If yours are 4 pole linix motors or AMT motors, or EMD, Electrocraft etc in fact every modern 4 pole they are the about the same 40 to 45 mOhm. 6 or 8 mph are the same. Only the gearing changes.

This is the older linix motors. These are about 40. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1403/ ... 1485439638

4 pole linix https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUICKIE-JIVE ... Sw2gxYpyMi

More https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUICKIE-JIVE ... SwIWVY-MsD

This is the newer smaller ones, about 40 to 45. 4 pole looks the same but 2 extra brush holders. http://www.sunrisemedical.co.uk/Sunrise ... 48ac74.jpg

AMT are german, also 45. http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images- ... r-side.jpg

[expresso]

mines are the linix motors - smaller than my previous chairs 4 pole which is the first link - thats my 222 se larger electrocraft motors - those work good at 40

but where stock at 65 -- once it was set to 40 was smoother to move around for others also -

now the sunrise linix are the smaller ones - stock settings for motor comp. was 30 -- i will try 40 and see what the difference is -

[shirley_hkg]

Does it turn better than Xplore ?

[Burgerman]

Dunno yet. I expect it will be massively better. Brushless hub motors just draw way too many amps for a very limited amount of torque. Great when rolling. Terrible under a load. And vague and innacurate at slow speeds. I still have a Storm 3 here to play and test.

[Burgerman]

Dunno yet. I expect it will be massively better. Brushless hub motors just draw way too many amps for a very limited amount of torque. Great when rolling. Terrible under a load. And vague and innacurate at slow speeds. I still have a Storm 3 here to play and test.

[rom88ve]

Hi guys, could someone make the software work with the ftdi 232 chip?

I do not know what to do anymore, where I live it is very difficult and expensive to get the cable that you have used

My converter is like this

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Please I NEED your help

[woodygb]

Modify the USB adapter like this.... 5v should be selected NOT 3.3V.

NOTE:- The PGDT Programming software requires YOU to select the Comms Port number assigned by Windows to the FTDI USB ....and this number MUST be in the range 1-8.


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