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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby shirley_hkg » 13 Jan 2017, 01:41

OK
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby shirley_hkg » 13 Jan 2017, 02:43

The diameter is 168mm , if mechanics' memory were right .

Bolt is M8 .
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby rollingcowboy » 13 Jan 2017, 07:19

my measurements were the same as shirley's
the screw is 16mm long - it has a wider dia head and lower profile.
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby shirley_hkg » 13 Jan 2017, 08:20

THANKS .
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby Burgerman » 13 Jan 2017, 09:33

Thanks both. That means I can get some 200mm OD, 155mm ID diameter spacers cut, say 40 to 60mm thick from black or blue HMDP and a rubber sealing ring groove added each side. And then add longer M8 low profile bolts. Allowing 90/90 or 110/80 or 120/70 x8 tyres o be used.

Or a set of 10 inch rims...
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby Burgerman » 13 Jan 2017, 09:51

One of the reasons I ordered the Storm X-plore chair other than the new brushless motors (38 miles on lead!) is that I no longer have a chair with a seat riser. And cant reach the top of my van to wash, or shelves to clean.

I never drive about or even use that when out and about. I have no feeling of being 'left out' or hard to communicate etc. So no real need. Usually prefer compact lighter smaller chairs for easy access and use. But tilt as on a couple of my existing chairs is nice. This new one has leccy everything. Power (Center) footplate, recline, tilt, riser, etc. Probably overkill and heavy as hell... :lol:

I just wish the arms were more substantial as if they are like most invacare chairs they will be wobbly and weak. So much so that once reprogrammed so it goes/stops/steers properly you just *can't* do exactly that! But I can weld! And its way too nose heavy with overloaded casters. We will know in about 6 weeks when its built/delivered. Apparently REM550 and center footplate etc is a special build! You would think it would be the stock setup. But its an old design so maybe they lost interest.
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby Seajays » 14 Jan 2017, 18:50

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Here is what I got for $100 CDN

Sorry don't know how to rotate
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby Burgerman » 14 Jan 2017, 19:56

Brushless? How fast? Bargain even if not!
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby Burgerman » 14 Jan 2017, 20:11

http://www.ebay.com/itm/M6-M8-M10-A2-30 ... ETx8MzKSDA

Low profile head stainless cap head bolts for those needing them...
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby steves1977uk » 14 Jan 2017, 20:24

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gearless-Brus ... Swf05XOz1r

Pity Curtiss-Wright don't make a Brushless plug-in module for the R-Net as I would've been tempted to buy these.

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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby Burgerman » 14 Jan 2017, 20:38

There are brushless modules on eBay... And many rem joystick modules too. Cheap. And the programmer is ahem, dongle free...
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby rover220 » 14 Jan 2017, 20:51

Buy my whole storm chair then you have the lot ;)
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby steves1977uk » 14 Jan 2017, 21:05

I'd only want the PM, joystick, wiring loom and motors rover as there's no space here for another whole chair :oops:

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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby Seajays » 15 Jan 2017, 17:55

Can my DX2-Rem 551 joystick controller work with the DX-GB power module to run the brushless motors?
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby Burgerman » 15 Jan 2017, 18:07

Yep! And the rem550 I will be getting on my new chair. In fact all of them.
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby Gnomatic » 15 Jan 2017, 18:24

Burgerman wrote:Yep! And the rem550 I will be getting on my new chair. In fact all of them.


What do you like better about the DX2 vs R-net?
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby Seajays » 15 Jan 2017, 18:48

BM Thanks, Now that I can use my Rem551 I just need to find the DX-GB controller and cables. I have the Wizard OEM dongle
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby Burgerman » 15 Jan 2017, 19:11

Well sell it, to pay for your new controller, as you no longer require it...

We have a way!
And whats more it is a level higher than OEM... So lets you mess about with battery meter voltages and stop voltages etc. Meaning you can use lithium with a battery gauge... Or a volt meter. And a cut off at a safe level. And some other things.
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby Burgerman » 15 Jan 2017, 19:15

Dynamic v PG drives v Curtis stuff?

PG is more widely used here. All equally good. But PG no does brushless... And I cannot stomach another decade of stone age brushed motors. Meaning invacare/dynamic is the only option. I always say get whatever one you can get a oem programmer for.
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby Seajays » 15 Jan 2017, 19:18

Will your new way also let me mess with my DX2 stuff ?
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby Burgerman » 15 Jan 2017, 19:19

All DYNAMIC stuff.
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby ex-Gooserider » 17 Jan 2017, 04:35

What about going into the wayback pile and messing with Invacare MKIV stuff? I have the hand-held programmer for MKIV, but it's pretty limited.... Not sure if that is because of what it lets you get at for options, or because the controller itself is that limited....

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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby Burgerman » 17 Jan 2017, 08:41

All...

And many more options than your handheld I expect. But you may need a blue DWIZ adapter...
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby shirley_hkg » 17 Jan 2017, 10:08

MOST WANTED will be to unleash the speed limit . :)
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby Burgerman » 17 Jan 2017, 11:06

Do you want a copy?
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby shirley_hkg » 17 Jan 2017, 11:40

I'd rather see what you can do .

No rush . ;)
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby Burgerman » 17 Jan 2017, 12:07

I think max RPM is fixed to 220 or less. But there's a lot of settings that change torque or brake settings so they don't bug you like a 5 sec delay. Or steering and turn accelerations/deceleration or speed of response etc. Max amps, boost level and duration etc. Take a look. Choose service.
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby shirley_hkg » 22 Jan 2017, 12:42

Burgerman wrote:Are they all usable with the Wizard programmer and all motors?

(The 3rd version motors are actually called 2 plus or TT Plus, but look the same externally I think)

More info, the motor cables are longer on rear drive ones. So buying a mid drive will not fit a rear drive...


I don 't have the dongle , so never tried the Wizard .

However , I do use my old programmer on all controllers , MK 4 _ _ _ MK 6i .
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby Burgerman » 22 Jan 2017, 20:01

Then the UNLOCKED wizard will work. It allows 4 access levels. And can fix your battery meter!
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Re: Storm 4 Xplore retrofit

Postby shirley_hkg » 23 Jan 2017, 01:50

A dongle is still needed , itsn't it ?
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