Q logic/Curtis Cable end

[laoshanren]

I need reverse the joystick's forward and backward.

...what about left and right turn ...is that also reversed?

Adam,

Could you please answer this question..... as the solution may be to simply swap wires around at the MOTORS.

Cheers Woody

Hi woodygb thanks,

The turns are OK, joystick moving same as chair.

Best
Adam

[Burgerman]

Then swap left side for right side connectors, and ALSO swap the wires inside the motor connectors themselves, to the opposite positions (polarity) and you are all good to go.

[laoshanren]

Then swap left side for right side connectors, and ALSO swap the wires inside the motor connectors themselves, to the opposite positions (polarity) and you are all good to go.

Thanks Burgerman,
I'll try it.
I just not sure that I saw some where in the powerbase's parameters has 'direction' words?

Best
Adam

[woodygb]

Adam,
You can load your par file into the later 1314 pc programmer and get a MUCH better look at the parameters as it has a a clearer menu/interface AND HELP...so you should/will get a better understanding of the displayed parameters.

BUT ... You can only save any changes that you make as a later file type which is NOT backwards compatible with the early 1314 version. ...Just use it as a learning tool.

Woody in G.B.

[laoshanren]

Adam,
You can load your par file into the later 1314 pc programmer and get a MUCH better look at the parameters as it has a a clearer menu/interface AND HELP...so you should/will get a better understanding of the displayed parameters.

BUT ... You can only save any changes that you make as a later file type which is NOT backwards compatible with the early 1314 version. ...Just use it as a learning tool.

Woody in G.B.

Thanks woodygb,
Its a good idea. I saved the .par file and opened by par file edit tool, edit and save but can't send to chair.

I try to remove the red light on my second Q6 EDGE, seems no that lucky, the power base parameters didn't show up the items be able to modify as picture 'seat navigation', its just '?', don't even have any actuators item, guess may because when the chair power up, shown error #225 the aam is missing?

I gained lot of:
1) the small 4pins connector to motor I mentioned before is for the encode, yes, they do have encodes for speed calibration see 'speed calibration'.
2) nearly all parameters of the motors are available to modify see 'polarity inverted' , 'motor swap', even 'gear ratio' these three pictures make one page as 'motor par' for the number limit, I really don't understand how can 'gear ratio' be changed ?
3) the voltage to brakes and actuators all are changeable.

Best
Adam

[woodygb]

Make the M1 and M2 motor Polarity Parameters and Motor swap =1

[woodygb]

I assume that the later 1314 program will not allow connection to your chair?

[laoshanren]

Make the M1 and M2 motor Polarity Parameters and Motor swap =1

Thanks woodygb,

All my three chairs Q1, connection ok, just this one powerbase may wrong some where?
do you have any clue to the error #225 aam missing?

I didn't change any parameters on the motor yet.

Best
Adam

[woodygb]

Adam,

Sorry to be a pain.

BUT

Can you please confirm that the A1 USB-CANBUS works on the LATER 1314 version.


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I'll see what I can find up on the error code.

[woodygb]

The error code received when the failure happens is #225 (and sometimes #117) : according to the user manual, this error code means "Advanced Actuator Module Missing or Defective".

[laoshanren]

Adam,

Sorry to be a pain.

BUT

Can you please confirm that the A1 USB-CANBUS works on the LATER 1314 version.


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I'll see what I can find up on the error code.

Hi woodygb thanks,

Yes, the #225 is AAM missing, just wonder, my last chair had the same error, I disconnected the AAM and programmed the powerbase, fine, this one there are no parameters in the powerbase.

I try to use later version to connect the chair, and got this:

Best
Adam

[woodygb]

Have you tried cloning the working powerbase and uploading to the defective one ....I doubt that it will work ,but worth a try.

The later 1314 Software is looking for a specific Vid and Pid that identifies approved or genuine Curtis leads...I think from memory that the A1 USB-CAN use a CP2102 Chip .
It MIGHT be possible to rewrite the VID/PID and drivers to make the A1 USB-CAN appear to be a genuine Curtis lead.


A USB device that is plugged in identifies itself by its VID/PID combination. A VID is a 16-bit vendor number (Vendor ID). A PID is a 16-bit product number ...

[laoshanren]

Have you tried cloning the working powerbase and uploading to the defective one ....I doubt that it will work ,but worth a try.

The later 1314 Software is looking for a specific Vid and Pid that identifies approved or genuine Curtis leads...I think from memory that the A1 USB-CAN use a CP2102 Chip .
It MIGHT be possible to rewrite the VID/PID and drivers to make the A1 USB-CAN appear to be a genuine Curtis lead.


A USB device that is plugged in identifies itself by its VID/PID combination. A VID is a 16-bit vendor number (Vendor ID). A PID is a 16-bit product number ...

Hi woodygb thanks

Actually how to clone is what I am looking for, I tried load my last chair's parameters file, it becomes same as the new chair's. do you know how to clone?

the A1 USB-CAN is used a CP2102 Chip. are there any new products?

Best
Adam

[laoshanren]

Have you tried cloning the working powerbase and uploading to the defective one ....I doubt that it will work ,but worth a try.

The later 1314 Software is looking for a specific Vid and Pid that identifies approved or genuine Curtis leads...I think from memory that the A1 USB-CAN use a CP2102 Chip .
It MIGHT be possible to rewrite the VID/PID and drivers to make the A1 USB-CAN appear to be a genuine Curtis lead.


A USB device that is plugged in identifies itself by its VID/PID combination. A VID is a 16-bit vendor number (Vendor ID). A PID is a 16-bit product number ...

Hi woodygb
I found this link, see any thing useful?

http://www.diyelectriccar.com/forums/sh ... 53597.html

Best
Adam

[woodygb]

On page 2 you will find a post from ......ME !

Note ...The Curtis 1309 has been successfully cloned.

[woodygb]

Adam,

The 1314 HELP file contains info on "Cloning".
What version of the earlier 1314 do you have? ...I have build 36 update patch 6...which came with a configuration .ini file that contains this.

[Options]
AdvancedCloningDefault=1

You can find the version info by clicking on Help then About

[laoshanren]

Adam,

The 1314 HELP file contains info on "Cloning".
What version of the earlier 1314 do you have? ...I have build 36 update patch 6...which came with a configuration .ini file that contains this.

[Options]
AdvancedCloningDefault=1

You can find the version info by clicking on Help then About

Hi woodygb thanks

The version I used as picture:

Best Adam

[woodygb]

To enable the Advanced Cloning Option.

Open up the computers registry using regedit ....to do this ...find the Run command and type in regedit.

Search for AdvancedCloningDefault ( It will be under Curtis Instruments -1314 V4 - Settings ) and alter the number from 0 to 1.

Oh! ...please use Woody NOT Woodygb ...the gb is simply added to make the user name "unique" to me and denotes my location...G.B. = Great Britian.

[laoshanren]

To enable the Advanced Cloning Option.

Open up the computers registry using regedit ....to do this ...find the Run command and type in regedit.

Search for AdvancedCloningDefault ( It will be under Curtis Instruments -1314 V4 - Settings ) and alter the number from 0 to 1.

Oh! ...please use Woody NOT Woodygb ...the gb is simply added to make the user name "unique" to me and denotes my location...G.B. = Great Britian.

Hi Woody thank you,

firstly sorry about the name, my poor English knowledge.

I'll find out the par cloning to solve my chair's error now.

Is the final use a USB or RS232 after cloned of 1309 ?

Best
Adam

[woodygb]

The 1309 is a USB-SERIAL interface based on the FTDI chip and not a CAN-USB.

It gets complicated ...but it MIGHT be possible to alter the vid and pid of the A1 CAN-BUS to make it seem like it is one of the approved Curtis interfaces and work with the later 1314 version.

NOTE:- It took 3-4 years to solve the 1309 cable.

[laoshanren]

The 1309 is a USB-SERIAL interface based on the FTDI chip and not a CAN-USB.

It gets complicated ...but it MIGHT be possible to alter the vid and pid of the A1 CAN-BUS to make it seem like it is one of the approved Curtis interfaces and work with the later 1314 version.

NOTE:- It took 3-4 years to solve the 1309 cable.

Hi woody thanks

Am I understand right?
the later version to Q1:
Software + USB-SERIAL interface based on the FTDI chip (and driver)

I found a 1309 USB-SERIAL interface based on FT232RL:

https://www.ebay.ca/itm/FT232RL-3-3V-5- ... SwrklVMjIp

is this one OK?

Best
Adam

[woodygb]

Seems that the regedit option AdvancedCloningOption may only be available in V4 not V3.

Should you wish my version ... SetupExe_OEM_1314-4401_mit_allen_Updates-Bis_31_08_06 .... drop me an EMAIL.

[laoshanren]

Seems that the regedit option AdvancedCloningOption may only be available in V4 not V3.

Should you wish my version ... SetupExe_OEM_1314-4401_mit_allen_Updates-Bis_31_08_06 .... drop me an EMAIL.

Yes Woody thank you.

I changed the AdvancedCloningOption seems no much change.
My email is: GONE -- Burgerman.

Best
Adam

[woodygb]

I have copied your email...
I suggest that you edit your post and remove it IF you can.

[laoshanren]

I have copied your email...
I suggest that you edit your post and remove it IF you can.

Hi Woody,
I don't know how to delete it.
Best
Adam

[woodygb]

Cheers John,

Here's a Magnet / Torrent link for the SetupExe_OEM_1314-4401_mit_allen_Updates-Bis_31_08_06

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:4cc64edf3a6cee5c08f002b7aa1c5c0e9184dbb3

[Burgerman]

I did it already...

[laoshanren]

Seems that the regedit option AdvancedCloningOption may only be available in V4 not V3.

Should you wish my version ... SetupExe_OEM_1314-4401_mit_allen_Updates-Bis_31_08_06 .... drop me an EMAIL.

Yes Woody thank you.

I changed the AdvancedCloningOption seems no much change.
My email is: GONE -- Burgerman.

Best
Adam

Thank you Burgerman.
Best
Adam

[laoshanren]

Cheers John,

Here's a Magnet / Torrent link for the SetupExe_OEM_1314-4401_mit_allen_Updates-Bis_31_08_06

magnet:?xt=urn:btih:4cc64edf3a6cee5c08f002b7aa1c5c0e9184dbb3

Hi Woody,

The "Allow advanced clone" coming at Options menu, I checked it, I don't know how to next, I load the file from one chair, how to transfer to another one?

Best
Adam

[laoshanren]

progress:

My second chair's red LIGHT is gone, the reason of AAM missing is a wrong jumper location, as long as the AAM recognized, simple.
next step, I'll make a remote control joystick to control my project, open to any suggestions please.

I'll attach some pictures next time.

Best
Adam