PGDT Serial interface cable ...USB Alternative :D

[woodygb]

To get a link between the Curtis/Q-logic controller and the program running on the computer you need a Canbus interface lead.

This lead needs to be compatible with the "language" spoken between the controller and the computer programme.


There appears to be 2 manufacturers leads supported by the 1314 programming station and an interpreters are supplied in the form of DLL files for IME-Actia and Sontheim Canbus leads.

IF you want a PGDT interface lead ... ggo to the first post of the thread .... which has wandered of topic...this shows how to make one.

[woodygb]

It may seem a little odd that Curtis ... an American firm ... should list European / German interface cables until you find out that their R&D / research and development division is in Switzerland.

In 1996 Curtis strengthened its leadership in motor controllers by creating an additional R&D center, Curtis Instruments AG, in Biberist, Switzerland

You access updates to the software via http://www.curtis.ch/patches/oem/update1314_2.inf ... this requires a Password... NO I don't have it!

[gologen]

How to get access ? A lot of updates.
http://www.curtis.ch/patches/changelog.txt

Change Log
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** V4.1.0 (Build 529) **

General
- Minor bug fixes

Wheelchair controllers
- Added: Better communication support when running on slow PC



** V4.1.0 (Build 527) **

General
- Added: Installer now installs MTAPI for Windows 2000 and XP, too
- Added: Read/Write access level of a parameter is now contained
in program export file
- Improvement: Stop update thread during saving to file
- Bug fix: Check if focus can be set prior to setting it
- Bug fix: Removed memory leaks
- Added: Check if leaf nodes in the menu already exist. If yes,
append node id to the menu name to be able to distinguish the menu.
- Added: MRU support when loading file from second instance
(double click in Windows Explorer)
- Added: Do not show menu entries in menu tree when display as table view.
- Added: Now the filename is also added to MRU when loading by command line
- Bug fix: Table view parameters are now exported and printed correctly
- Bug fix: Adjust limits after cloning
- Added: Check if parameter is in valid range every time when user clicks on parameter
- Changed: Automatic check if parameter is outside valid range
only in developer edition anymore
- Items in default access level combobox in the settings dialog depends
now on the specific edition of the 1314
- Added new sorting of watchlist. Sort order is now the position in menu tree.
- Added online help file for all 5 languages
- Added showing all limiting parameter
- Added sorting of Error Histroy by timestamp if date code is the same in print out
- Added support for "OEMData" copy to install dir
- Added update thread feature to update changes of values
- Added: Show all dependencies and display the active one in a different color.
- Autosave programs are now saved in 'my documents' area of windows.
Vista does not allow to write in program files area.
- Bug fix: Change color of parameter tree if value changed
- Bug fix: If no com port is present on the PC then no error occurs anymore
- Show IME hardware selection only when IME driver is installed
- Bug fix: Now the height of dependency list labels is calculated correctly.
- Bug fix: Only start updateThread when object exist (e.g. offline system)
- Bug fix: Removed exception when no COM port exists in the system
- Bug fix: Set OEMData source files as optional
- Bug fix: Set visible of action items
- Changed 'device software' path to my doc directory, due to writing
rights limitation under Windows Vista
- Changed path for OEMData to be Vista compatible
- Minor bug fixes


Wheelchair controllers
- Added: Support for Binary Menu Display Options (MDO)
- Added: When setting default value, it's checked if within min/max range
- Bug fix: Fault entry structure had wrong data type
- Bug fix: Due to bus overload en error #2 occurred on HC after some time
- Added: System properties are now imported when importing master device
- Added: Added for battery statistic view (not supported by all Powerbase)
- Added: Support of data sections for MC-2 system
- Changed: When parameter value is out of range with MCP, then it's set
it to its default.
- Changed: Incremented Firmware update timeout to support 8MB flash
- Changed: Refresh timing improvement when switching off system
- Bug fix: Works now correctly with I+ME PCI card
- Bug fix: When reading from cache file, the device number in output
items was not set to actual device number.
- Bug fix: Reset "ShowAllParameter" state when connecting to a system
- Bug fix: Only clone data sections which are present in the destination system.
- Bug fix: "Devicenumber" was get with wrong index.
- Added some checks to prevent impossible configurations in AAM configuration dialog
- Added some waiting time after saving config data to allow devices to save it into eeprom.
- Added waiting time to prevent error #2 on device
- Bug fix: Check for already used actuators now works correctly
- Bug fix: Do not display lastest SW version when connected to a MC-2 system
- Bug fix: Save the data length before sending the semaphore token. The length
member in SDO struct will be initialized to 0 by waiting task and therefore a
wrong value was returned as length.
- Changed images of N.O./N.C. MIO
- Changed menu priority of root menu for MC-2. Device config is now at
the same position as e50
- Check if data are refreshed in a online system when retrieving config data
- New texts


Material Handling controllers
- Bug fix: Cloning from .PAR files now works correctly
- Bug fix: When multi configuration is present, now values of all configurations
are updated prior to saving a file
- Bug fix: Advanced cloning is not allowed for SERIAL protocol
- Bug fix: Now COM ports > COM9 can be used.
- Added additional infos to create cache file name with S protocol
- Added exponent normalization when using dependency parameters
- Added improvements for S protocol controller support
- Bug fix: Added exponent normalization when using dependency parameters.
- Bug fix: Dependencies are now working correctly with S protocol
- Bug fix: Dependencies for ES/S are now handled correct
- Bug fix: Reset dependencies in case it already exists from a
previous parsing (e.g. P or Q command)
- Bug fix: S protocol uses now AltAddress as ID - Added support for write protection with S protocol

[woodygb]

You could try looking in the program.

http://www.heaventools.com/

[gologen]

Did you see Sontheim CAN-bus devices for sale?

[woodygb]

Sontheim has an online shop.

http://www.sontheim-industrie-elektroni ... -shop.html

Register and you can see prices ...CanFox is around 110 Euro's .. plus p&p and tax probably!

[gologen]

CanFox is around 110 Euro's .. plus p&p and tax probably!

TOTAL rip off ..I was quoted £125 ( trade ) direct from Curtis
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1256&start=20&st=0&sk=t&sd=a#p16423

So price of Sontheim device is close to original Curtis device. It seems the cheapest is NetPorty ~ 30 Euros.

[Seajays]

I ordered one of these.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/330721908764?ss ... 062wt_1141

[woodygb]

You have ordered Gologen's solution...with his support..it WILL work fine!

[gologen]

I ordered one of these.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/330721908764?ss ... 062wt_1141

Try to use dll from this post
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1965&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=298

[woodygb]

Gologen...I've already guided John thru downloading and replacing your DLL .

[Seajays]

Thanks to Woody & Gologen, hope it works for me. I am sure I will need more guidance.

[malamar]

dear woody,
yesterday new chair arrived in a pallet and transporter wanted to leave it in the street for me (i was alone and already perspiring to reach down to that level) to unpack and push up home discharged.I called factory, stated de case and they will come back on thursday, hopefully, but probably will, so ithink i will need soft and your hardware to program the controller.
Write me please about what you need to know further, if anything, and where exactly must go your expense remboursement.
I still have to learn how to do all that ...so no terrible hurry

Cheers and obrigado in advance








































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[woodygb]

The PGDT cable I can make and supply for under £30 ... I charged Nick £27 for the last one posted and delivered in the UK.

Cheers Woody

[malamar]

Perfect woody. i have a laptop with windows 7, 34 bits .What is the best way to regulate the bill, Pay Pal, bank transfer or else? just tell me and please add whatever needed, like postage to Spain, handling etc.
Giordano (malamar)

[woodygb]

Paypal ...
After you recieve the cable AND your happy it works.

You have a P.M.

[malamar]

perfect then Woody: you are hired ! iGO TO SEE pm...AT PRESENT RECOVERING FROM TOO MANY COLLISION WITH THINGS IN THE WAY - --
From what i see and learning the hard way personally taylored programming is sheer necessity as no two humans have the same reflexes, time of reaction and hand dexterity: i'm still scared at switching the machine on: it hurts....
best and thank you so much pal.

[malamar]

Now,i 've seen woody's message, great! thanks also to the pletora of files received kindly from the boss (BM) BUT HERE MY COMPUTER OR THE INCIPIENT GERMAN FRIEND aLZHEIMER ARE CONFABULATING TO BRING UP ERROR 1311 OF MISSING FILES ¿?¿?¡
(Forgive me the capitals, but they appear at the screen every time i strike or release block cap ) But i'm stubborn and will investigate the complot to good ends.
cheers...i'll overcome, some day, now retiring to tea and sandwhich...

[Burgerman]

>>>From what i see and learning the hard way personally taylored programming is sheer necessity as no two humans have the same reflexes, time of reaction and hand dexterity: i'm still scared at switching the machine on: it hurts....

I have set up about 100 chairs for others. Only 3 wanted it any different from my "all accellerations off" or 100 percent" settings. All found it easy and controllable. Does every car need different steering control? No. It simply works as advertised!

[malamar]

BM, i don`t question at all your programming: i can't for "too YOUNG" driver :don't know what it should be like...
But the comparison with a car steering system doesn't fit, I fear, and there i'm ultra qualified ( racing pilot up to F III ).
As i have now seems like at Quickie w'd make plenty of handicapped people (clients) the fast way: smashing them against a wall!
Suspect they fitted the 10 km/h motors requested but didn't bother program it accordingly...i' have a slow, unsteady hand but not to the extent of striking a wheelie whenever i touch slightly that damn pod (resorted to pull the clutch lever at home and drive by pushing with feet as with the manual !! ) but teething problems, I hope: i'll be brave and with some more flying hours tomorrow i 'll defy the street, or brake a leg !

Cheers all

[Burgerman]

You miss understand. You remove all the delays, and make it totally linear. Like a car steering. We are talking about steering (turn) accelerations and decelerations not "chair" forward and reverse acceleration (wheelies). And then your steering is linear. Ie it does what you tell it, and it does it when you tell it to. And it STOPS turning when you say so as well rather than later on....

Now if its too sensitive for you you adjust the turn RATE not the acceleration. And you set forward acceleration to whatever you prefer.

[malamar]

John,
gonna be what you say on delays..

Push the stick ...nothing happens; push a bit more and hold there waiting for something to answer my movement, but no sir, then when distracted and forgot where were I, the malicious thing strike hard all of a sudden sending me against something also hard !!When able to do it I think too to prefer drivig to the imput of a continuous, proportional datastream, as with cars...

But the less I would is to annoy people with my newbee stupidity, sorry pals...but old dogs don't learn new tricks easy.
Have a good day

[Burgerman]

Dont worry. When you get a cable you will soon be able to adjust and test to see what effect different settings have. Its simple really!

[malamar]

Thanks to you John for all the benevolent assistance and to that willing soul who gifted all us with the hardware solution !!

[woodygb]

Malamar .... Check your P.M!

[malamar]

sorry woody tried to send my data couple of times already...i go immediately"!!

[woodygb]

The address you've given me seems incomplete... I only have your name and post code in Madrid.

[malamar]

YES WOODY you are right; think that unless i'll pay something to microsoft for using his WORD will suffer plenty of retaliations and errors
sorry

[ex-Gooserider]

No need to pay Microsoft... Instead of MS Orifice, check out Libre Office or Open Office - completely free of costs, open licensing, and can read / write MS Orifice formats if necessary... (Though their own ISO Standards compliant ODT format is preferred)

ex-Gooserider

[Burgerman]

Office is free...