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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby robert97 » 15 Nov 2017, 19:50

i have two PL8s and also avoid running windows on my workstation.

rdesktop talks to a 7 year old win7 laptop for an outside PL8 ,
and virtualbox/win7 for my inside PL8.

both work great.
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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby steves1977uk » 16 Nov 2017, 02:46

A new model of the PL8... http://www.revolectrix.com/PL8T_description_tab.htm Might be worth a look :)

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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby Burgerman » 16 Nov 2017, 02:49

I saw. But its for dummies with pre programmed bump stickers (presets) and no PC option, or PC CCS software I think. Aimed more at the flying site.
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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby expresso » 16 Nov 2017, 02:57

it does say about software on the first page of the item if you click it - go to the store - click and read on the bottom last line

http://www.store.revolectrix.com/Produc ... owerLab-8T

reading it more - i think is for mobile OS bluetooth control of the software ----- dosnt charge with balance wires only -

is it a good time to buy another PL 8 that we have now as a spare ? what if this replaces them - maybe worse
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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby steves1977uk » 16 Nov 2017, 02:59

It has CCS according to the features page :eh: czy

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Postby Burgerman » 16 Nov 2017, 02:59

Its super basic, for a phone only. Think flying site.
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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby Burgerman » 16 Nov 2017, 03:04

Windows 10 app is coming in 2018


And a bought APP from windows store (that I ripped out of 10) is available in 2018 maybe. But UNLESS its as capable as what we have now, not interested. As a company they are dumbing down everything to suite the typical, dummy! :fencing :worship

So unless you want a stupid bump controller, and a dumber charger, buy a few spare PL8s as they may stop doing them...
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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby expresso » 16 Nov 2017, 03:09

Burgerman wrote:
Windows 10 app is coming in 2018


And a bought APP from windows store (that I ripped out of 10) is available in 2018 maybe. But UNLESS its as capable as what we have now, not interested. As a company they are dumbing down everything to suite the typical, dummy! :fencing :worship

So unless you want a stupid bump controller, and a dumber charger, buy a few spare PL8s as they may stop doing them...



i was thinking that myself - do you think they will replace this one with the ones we use now ?

maybe will give them a call and ask - if they are honest - maybe they will upgrade ours ?
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Postby Burgerman » 16 Nov 2017, 03:10

Define upgrade?
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Postby expresso » 16 Nov 2017, 03:15

well keeping the same features we have now - or better in some way - not removing features and changing the case color etc,

i am not sure what upgrade can we need from the current PL 8 - it does what we need - what can be improved ?
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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby Burgerman » 16 Nov 2017, 03:21

It could have even more options, less safety nazi stuff, wider limits, bluetooth, allow charging without balance on Lithium ion, and a few other things. But they wont let that happen.

Instead they are taking away all the fine tuning that I can do now, and saddling us with their flawed and quite unusable presets. With only a few options. So this is I think much worse than what we have now. Unless its all still there behind the scenes. Which I doubt! Wont know till I see this windows app... Which we now have to buy. So its no upgrade as I can see it!
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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby expresso » 16 Nov 2017, 03:27

what if they stop making what we use and just make the news ones - would we still figure out a way to use them for our chairs ?

i mean - what would we do if that happened ? whats the wrong around if any ?
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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby Burgerman » 16 Nov 2017, 03:29

Well theres always a way.
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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby expresso » 16 Nov 2017, 03:34

maybe should get one more for a spare - would they repair ours if they break even in a year or more down the road ?
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Postby shirley_hkg » 16 Nov 2017, 11:15

It's off the shelf already . Can't get any spare now .

We are in trouble .
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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby Burgerman » 16 Nov 2017, 13:06

I just got another spare. Just in case the new one if more restricted. Which it looks to be.
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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby expresso » 16 Nov 2017, 16:53

I just got another one also - 2 extra cables to connect to PC also just in case -

on the new charger - the cables would be the same - balance - etc, - we dont need to stock up on them ?

but the cable to connect to the PC - thats important to have one extra at least ? i hope they will continue to supply these cable parts -
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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby Burgerman » 16 Nov 2017, 17:08

Who knows hobby stuff changes fast. The 36 inch balance cables are now different and so ordering a couple of those is a good idea. Cheap anyway. Save making any.
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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby steves1977uk » 16 Nov 2017, 17:11

The new PL8 uses the more common JST-XH plug for the balance plug instead of the JST-PA which we use now. So better stock up on balance cables for future use!

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Postby expresso » 16 Nov 2017, 18:08

shit - i already placed an order - i have to make another order maybe from progressive site - i like to get more balance cables - 36 inch and 12 inch - maybe a few more of the PC cable also - i got one extra now -

but will they not service our units if we still have them for many more years ? how long do they have to or should be stocking the parts for them - along with cables ?
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Postby expresso » 16 Nov 2017, 18:51

steves1977uk wrote:The new PL8 uses the more common JST-XH plug for the balance plug instead of the JST-PA which we use now. So better stock up on balance cables for future use!

Steve


they did that on purpose - i just ordered half dozen more both 3 feet and 12 inch cables - and two more PC cables - now i have to worry about making mistakes when i solder - concerned about wasting a cable on top of everything else

6 extra cables should be enough you think ? i want to make a few more charge cables for spares - and in case i need to replace any on the pack itself -

would you have a link to the correct JST-PA connector end - i woulnt know if its correct even if i see it :) we can always make it if we had too ?

woke up to this - didnt expect to spend $500 first thing in the morn.
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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby Twinpanther » 18 Nov 2017, 06:26

Burgerman wrote:http://www.store.revolectrix.com/Cellpro-PowerLab-36-Extension-Cable?ext=F 36 inch cable

http://www.store.revolectrix.com/Cellpr ... 2566?ext=F charger

http://www.store.revolectrix.com/FUIM3?ext=F PC USM connection Although mine will be bluetooth soon.


Each of those links come up for me here in the US as:
This page isn’t working

http://www.store.revolectrix.com is currently unable to handle this request.
HTTP ERROR 503
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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby Burgerman » 18 Nov 2017, 11:53

http://www.store.revolectrix.com/Cellpr ... able?ext=F 36 inch cable

http://www.store.revolectrix.com/Produc ... Lab-8_2578 charger

http://www.store.revolectrix.com/FUIM3?ext=F PC USM connection Although mine will be bluetooth soon.

Works fine from the 6 countries I tested just now on my VPN. Inc USA.
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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby Gnomatic » 18 Nov 2017, 18:32

Other than ordering a couple extra cables, I'm not going to panic just yet. There's much we don't know about the PL8T, and it's yet to be released PC CSS.
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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby Burgerman » 18 Nov 2017, 19:41

True. And nobody said they will stop the PL8 yet? But who knows. But I suspect it may be dumbed down as far as users are concerned.

The CCS is pretty much essential to us, for spotting problems on build, in use, etc. It would be a great loss too in setting all the fine parameters that I currently have access to to suit lead, as well as large lifepo4 setups.

But I never used windows store. And it goes against the grain to do so. Esp when we dont know what we are getting. It will be the same as the Android version. Maybe someone with a smart phone could look at that?
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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby Gnomatic » 18 Nov 2017, 20:00

Burgerman wrote:Maybe someone with a smart phone could look at that?


You don't have a smartphone?
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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby Burgerman » 18 Nov 2017, 20:11

Hate the damned things.

Its a phone with 1 day battery life.
Mine does months.

It has a "camera" that I dont need as I have a proper camera, and 4 lenses. Worth about 6k. So its camera output is to me a fuzzy noisy, point and shoot junk file maker.

Its a computer... But I have a REAL far faster, better computer, with a 55 inch screen, 3840 x 2160 deep.

Its got aps... Non of which are much use on a stupid battery hogging tiny screen.

If you drop it its knakered. New screen, much cost. Its always got a dead battery. Every time you touch the screen it goes off doing something you dont want. Its impossible to see in the sun. Etc etc. You are all sheeple, that are falling for the marketing bull.

I have 4 phones, all brand new in boxes, for 90 pounds the LOT... One is in use. My total phone bill was 15 pounds as a self serving pay as you go user for the last 12 months. INCLUDING the cost of the phone.

Complete with 4 chargers as spares, that I never need for 90 days battery life at a time! It does calls, has a clear screen you can see in sun, in large bright letters. It does SMS. But I dont. If I throw it at a wall it bounces off. If I drop it down the toilet, I just open another box. Thats all a phone needs to do. I have way better solutions for all the rest.
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Re: PL 8 - Q and A section - How to Set up - Use etc,

Postby Gnomatic » 18 Nov 2017, 20:16

FUTURE FEATURES:
- PowerLab options/settings management (like Windows CCS for PowerLab)
- PowerLab preset creation and configuration (like Windows CCS for PowerLab)


Seems like they're focused on bolting their Bump controller on a PL8. Hope they follow through on the above. It doesn't always happen.
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