Quickie Q700 or Q710

[hobie1dog]

Is the Q710 model the one here in the US?
Or what is the difference between the two?

[expresso]

i believe its just the motor - speed is the difference

710 is 8mph

700 is 6 mph

[hobie1dog]

Thanks, I'm getting confused on the Sunrise Medical site which one is the current one. I'm not due till April anyway. How soon should I contact my rep before then to get things started?Did you say that they now come out and inspect your current chair? If they do, I'm in trouble.

[Burgerman]

why?

[expresso]

make your chair look old and broken somehow - cant hurt - dirty etc, and complain about seating or problems that come and go - JS etc,

motor noise etc, i would think what ever is on the sunrise site is what can be had - i heard they are discounting the 636 - it may still show up but not sure -

you can call Sunrise and ask them - get all your facts in order etc, before you do a new chair -

[Burgerman]

I dont think it has to be sunrise does it?

[expresso]

https://www.sunrisemedical.com/power-wh ... ive/q500-h

this is the latest in there so called RWD chairs -

[Burgerman]

The QUICKIE Q500 H brings you a unique blend of rear-wheel drive and mid-wheel drive technology, delivering impressive outdoor performance coupled with indoor maneuverability.

The Q500H (for hybrid) isn sold as rear wheel.

Thats the Q500R and 700R.

[expresso]

i am talking about sunrise here in the states -

we dont have those models here that you have there -

[Burgerman]

I Know. But you keep refering to it as rear drive. It isnt. Its a hybrid. That is why its called H as its a hybrid. Because its a cross between a mid drive and a rear drive. Its not a rear drive chair as the thing has the rear wheels located further forwards, and 6 wheels.

There are FOUR chairs. Each has the drive wheel in a different position. And all use different chassis.

Q500R is rear drive. Small anti tips, drive wheels at rear. 4 wheels and raised anti tips.
Q500H is a cross, a mix between the rear and mid drives with the drive wheel someplace in between and rear casters. 6 wheels.
Q500M is a mid drive. 6 wheels.
Q500F is a front drive. 4 wheels.

The fact that you dont have the rear drive chairs in the US never entered into it!

[expresso]

i refer to it as RWD - because its under the RWD section of chairs on the website here in the US


it says H for Hybrid -

soon it will be only chair to get from them - if they get rid of the 636 models - and P222se models - i bet they will in the future - the cost of the p222 is alot more than the others thats a RWD chair - 636 is also - works great for me - if this new H model didnt have the little wheels on the ground all the time

it may not be too bad either - and i am sure many will like it -

[Burgerman]

They had to put it somewhere and they only had sections/pages for front, mid and rear drive. I am frankly amazed that they actually make 4 versions of that chair and only some of them are sold in the US. That must be costing them sales. And the same with every other manufacturer. They are for reasons I dont understand - avoiding selling rear drive powerchairs in the US and canada.

I would like it. Because I would get out mr grinder and mr hammer. After a couple of hours it would be a great rear drive chair.

[expresso]

no one knows or wants to say why they push all MWD and FWD chairs here -

no one else but you would do that with a new chair - many just cant do it - i wouldnt be able to do that level of work - i would be tempted to do something with those little wheels in the rear -

i have a long time now before my next chair so - i see whats around by then - and hope at least one good RWD is around that will be covered

V4 RWD if had to redo today and if they didnt have the 636

[Burgerman]

I think it might make a decent alternative if the rear tyres were replaced with 120/70-8 as on my salsa. For daily use. More wear and battery range freindly. And around 2 inches less overall width. Be better indoors etc.

[expresso]

it dosnt look that bad - yes if rear tires get changed and anti tippers are off the ground - then it can be ok also - its the little rear tires on the ground that would bother me

[hobie1dog]

with my Quickie 636 chair being almost like a new one then as long as they don't look at that one, I'm only interested in getting the 710 model as I want a mid wheel drive that will spin around on a dime inside our small condo. I've had my 636 in here before and it really is a pain in the ass for me, as it just doesn't have the small turning radius that I am used to with my Invacare pronto m61

[expresso]

you have to just say its not working for me in my home - cant use it - cant turn inside etc,

shouldnt have a problem getting one - given its at least 5 years - i have a chair that looks new and its 15 years old i think

[Burgerman]

Ditto.

[hobie1dog]

So expresso, I may have asked you this before, but how soon before your date for getting one did you start the process of contacting your rep and filling out the forms?

My first obstacle is living a long enough to get one

[hobie1dog]

So expresso, I may have asked you this before, but how soon before your date for getting one did you start the process of contacting your rep and filling out the forms?

My first obstacle is living long enough to get one

[expresso]

i dont know for sure - i believe its at least 5 years since your last chair - now it depends also on if your condition changes and current chair just not working for you anymore because of a change in your condition - etc,

you can try that way - a Clinic therapist and ATP would need to be involved i am sure - i guess first step is getting a RX from doc. for wheelchair evaluation - then go to the Clinic with the vendor of your choice or which ever vendor the clinic uses - you can ask for Numotion if you want them etc,

and take it from there - you have to stress at that appt. the need for a MWD chair - stress you cant use the RWD you have in your home -

etc, etc, make a good case - prepare your story before hand in your mind - - see what they can do about it - how old is your last chair that was covered by insurance ?

[hobie1dog]

- you have to stress at that appt. the need for a MWD chair - stress you cant use the RWD you have in your home -
- how old is your last chair that was covered by insurance ?

4 years. My 5 years is up next April.

[Burgerman]

Set light to it outside. Tell them it did it to itself...

[expresso]

you should be fine by then - the main reason is you cant use your chair property in your home - having a MWD chair for you works better because of your home layout etc,

they wont stress it - and being you want a MWD - they be happy - why i have no idea - if you pick a pride or permobile - they be very happy to get you one of those


i bet if you wanted another RWD - they would have reasons not to get you a new one - you have a good chance - just stress it that you can move it around good in your home - you hit the walls etc,

[hobie1dog]

you should be fine by then - the main reason is you cant use your chair property in your home - if you pick a pride or permobile - they be very happy to get you one of those

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the only brand I'm interested in would be the Quickie as reliable as it has been. I couldn't ask for a better chair, at least from the small selection of chairs offered through Medicare.

[expresso]

i agree i been with quickie for over 20 yes - all RWD chairs - a friend of mines has the 720 or 710 he loves his -

what ever works - bounder was the only chair different - i gave it a shot -

[hobie1dog]

my dealer either loves me or hates me as they have never heard from me since they sold the chair, as there has been zero issues with it and I have never in the four years that I've owned it requested new batteries. The batteries really are working fantastic for me with no signs of degradation..... but they probably are a little bit disappointed that they are not able to make any money off of me in the service department.

[Burgerman]

The batteries really are working fantastic for me with no signs of degradation

I woud expect that after 4 years of very mild use you will actually have around half the original Ah remaining. Your 74Ah batteies are probably 35 to 40Ah ones now. So long since beyond the point of replacement.

Since technocally they are said to be end of life when they are at 80% of original capacity.

Of course you would need something like the PL8 to actually measure this. And the time to replace them is when YOU notice that they dont do what you would normally do.So if you dont go far then your batts will seem good to you for many years. If you do go far though you would find that they are no longer capable 9 months aftr you fitted them new

Horses for courses.

[ex-Gooserider]

According to the stuff I've read, Medicare rules don't actually have a 'time' standard that entitles you to a new chair - although they are supposedly more inclined to say yes after a certain number of years (I've heard 5 from some sources, 7 from others) - the two MAIN factors that they are supposed to consider are the practicality / cost of repairing your existing chair - are parts available, what is the percentage cost to repair vs. replace, what is the condition of the parts not needing repair, etc. and whether your medical condition has changed to the point where it is not practical / cost effective to upgrade the existing chair vs. replacing it...

Private insurances, Medicaid, etc. may have slightly different rules but most are fairly similar to Medicare's.

So if your existing chair doesn't need any repairs, and your condition hasn't changed much, it seems unlikely that they will be willing to replace it just because you've hit a 'magic' number of years since you got the last new chair.

My manual chair is going on 10 years old, and they are still repairing it, not replacing it - but it hasn't needed a lot...

ex-Gooserider

[hobie1dog]

According to the stuff I've read, Medicare rules don't actually have a 'time' standard that entitles you to a new chair - although they are supposedly more inclined to say yes after a certain number of years (I've heard 5 from some sources, 7 from others) - the two MAIN factors that they are supposed to consider are the practicality / cost of repairing your existing chair - are parts available, what is the percentage cost to repair vs. replace, what is the condition of the parts not needing repair, etc. and whether your medical condition has changed to the point where it is not practical / cost effective to upgrade the existing chair vs. replacing it...

Private insurances, Medicaid, etc. may have slightly different rules but most are fairly similar to Medicare's.

So if your existing chair doesn't need any repairs, and your condition hasn't changed much, it seems unlikely that they will be willing to replace it just because you've hit a 'magic' number of years since you got the last new chair.

My manual chair is going on 10 years old, and they are still repairing it, not replacing it - but it hasn't needed a lot...

ex-Gooserider

You just ruined my day