masks

[Burgerman]

There are certain people...

Just watched 3 in cars driving alone all masked up. Pink hair etc so lefties. And some in the town centre.

They dont work anyway, like throwing flour hrough a goal net.

[ex-Gooserider]

I've seen folks wearing masks outdoors, that take them off when going inside...

I don't wear them unless required to, and don't go places where they are required unless I HAVE to... I like doing strange things like breathing and seeing where I'm going w/o my glasses fogging up....

ex-Gooserider

[Burgerman]

But here in he UK masks were forgotten about 2 years back. Nobody other than some certain lefty virtue signaling types wear them.

[martin007]

In Spain masks are mandatory again in some medical centers and hospitals.
Sheep clap.

[Burgerman]

Theres zero scientific evidence that they do anything at all positive. Since a virus is about 50 times smaller than any holes on the masks. And of course it goes around them anyway or you couldnt breath.

Theres a fair bit to say the opposite, because people touch and adjust them as they are uncomfortable, getting any virus concentrated on their hands that they touch surfaces, door handles, others directly with. And they introduce an incorrect sense of safety, meaning people get closer etc so actually spreading any virus much better!

In any case theres no problem with the current weak virus. Its no worse than a cold. And spreads natural immunity while doing so.

Theres no manditory mask wearing in the UK, and people would never take any notice of it again anyway here.

[martin007]

In Spain more than 50% of the people are sheep.
They are a losing battle.
People don't want to reflect and think.
I feel like a weirdo myself.

[Burgerman]

I will see if I can find you one!

[thamesmud]

In Spain masks are mandatory again in some medical centers and hospitals.
Sheep clap.

Crikey, I don't want Sheep Clap, sounds nasty.

[Burgerman]

Not sure that he will understand either of those funnies!

[LROBBINS]

No, masks can not physically block virus particles. BUT, viruses are propagated by aerosols (micro droplets that are invisibly small, but much larger than the virus particles) and/or droplets (larger and visible as condensate). Both droplets and aerosols are stopped by decent masks, not only because some are large enough to be physically blocked, but because being mostly water they are adsorbed on the surface of the masks fibers.

[REPARACIÓN SILLAS]

Hello everyone, here in Argentina, although there are cases, they are few and are controlled. More than half of the population has between the fourth and fifth dose administered (which doesn't mean much...), but the masks are seen often, it seems that we learned something.

Gabriel.

[martin007]

we learned something.

Does the virus stop being dangerous by using the mask?

[Burgerman]

Colour me unconvinced. I watched a demo of someone outside in the cold where the water vapour and droplets that were very tiny make clouds of "steam" as you breath. They tried half a dozen masks. If the material was fine enough it stopped the steam coming from the front. And instead it all came from the sides and the edges and the eyes and steamed up glasses. In huge clouds. If they tried to seal this where it leaked around the edges with tape it came straight through all the masks inc the fancy medical ones. You gotta breath right? And these let your hot breath through only to produce visible water particles as it cools. This happens indoors too, you just cant see it. And yes it stopped a small amount of the water droplets leaving the masks damp. And thats right where all the people mess about with it to stop it itching or falling down. Thereby adding the virus to the hands...

So sorry but I see no gains at all from wearing them. If it was a big filter, with no leaks that you couldnt touch like a car air filter, they may do some good. But they are not. And they actively contaminate hands... Which then do the same to surfaces, door handles etc, making the spread worse.

No, masks can not physically block virus particles. BUT, viruses are propagated by aerosols (micro droplets that are invisibly small, but much larger than the virus particles) and/or droplets (larger and visible as condensate). Both droplets and aerosols are stopped by decent masks, not only because some are large enough to be physically blocked, but because being mostly water they are adsorbed on the surface of the masks fibers.

[hotwheels_75]

I’ve seen someone wear a mask then pull it down every time they had to cough or sneeze. I’ve also seen tons of people driving alone or walking alone down a deserted sidewalk wearing masks. And as burgerman mentioned even if they were effective on any level, that effectiveness stops the minute you start touching them, adjusting, scratching your nose under them. I’ve watched people literally every 5 or so seconds lift their mask up and readjust it. Like they had an uncontrollable tick.

[slomobile]

Some people have always worn masks outside and taken them off inside. Because some people are severely bothered by pollen and the buildings they live and work in have filtration. Or maybe they work or live with someone hard of hearing that needs to read their lips. Or maybe they have cold induced asthma.
If you see someone driving alone in a car wearing a mask, they may be an Uber driver on the way to pick up a lefty, or the car stinks and they are trying not to smell it, or they just visited someone in the hospital and are so creeped out by all the sick people that they feel comforted keeping it on.

Masks are simply more available and acceptable now. Like guns. Why does that bother anyone? If you don't want to, don't wear one. If you don't think anyone should be wearing one, why do you care if they are doing it wrong? Probably no one should be mandated to wear one unless they have a job where that is necessary equipment.

There is no evidence that diapers stop babies from shitting or that diapers reduce your chances of contracting a shit borne illness. Shit is smaller than leg holes in diapers. There is no law mandating that babies must wear diapers. But it still works a lot better for everyone when babies in public wear diapers rather than random unnoticed piles of shit everywhere. Now I understand that in England people spent many years throwing their shit in the streets and in the Thames, so you got used to a certain standard of living. I get it if you want to continue your traditions. Maybe let it go if some folks feel like starting their own traditions.
I don't think pink hair signals party affiliation. I think it signals they don't give a fuck what you think.

[Burgerman]

That shows pretty obviously that you dont live here. Londons not really even british or recognised as such by most of us any longer! Baby shit? Check you meds.

[slomobile]

Yeah, I was trying out a metaphor. They can't all be good.
I guess a lot of what we Yanks think we know about the UK is really just about London.
It wasn't until my kid had to do a report on England that I learned there is a difference between England, Britain, and the UK. Like pounds and quid, I think we assume they are all the same thing and you guys just like having multiple names for stuff. Like Scotland is just Ireland with kilts and whisky instead of potatoes and . And apparently Welsh is a thing. And narrowboats somehow exist. Basking in American ignorance.

[Burgerman]

I guess a lot of what we Yanks think we know about the UK is really just about London.

Londonistan is gone, fallen.

It has 2 massive problems. And in no way represents this country as a whole.
Biggest issue is that while when I was a kid it was almost all white british traditional people that had a long history here going back to much longer than the UShas existed along with most of the housing and buildings etc, it no longer does. It was infiltrated by 2 types of people during my lifetime, to the point where most of the londoners have moved out to the rest of the country. Guess where most of the crime, stabbings, single parents, and drug or other undesirable problems are?

It is now a dirty, 3rd world shit hole that has a minority of white british in some areas and practically non at all in others. These predomanantly black african (note that these are not the same as your blacks but sub saharan african - many are extreme muslims too, with all the culture and IQ problms that come with it) or middle eastern muslims that build mosques and try to change all the laws and agitate to change the way we live to their ways... Whats more the few that are white british can be pretty much lumbed together as lefties. In general they are EU loving remainers. London is full of them. They love anything that wants to destroy the western rich capitalist world, and so green, net zero, socialist and marxist nonsense, and so on. This stuff all seems to be highly predictable just by appearance. I can tell a lefty from london by appearance (a mile away) pretty much garanteed. Nose rigs, green or blue hair is their uniform. It shouldnt be but it is.

Scotland and london all vote socialist. Love net zero and anything else that goes along with socialist or marxist values. The rest of the country voted to LEAVE the EU, which meant border control, immigration control, taking back control of our country and our laws. The political classes also hated this and still have not really done it.

A massive country wide divide. If anything bigger than you see between your conservative texas, and that californian left. In the UK london, and scotland are socialist voters. The red bit is normal england... Leave and white british.

[Burgerman]

Lets put it this way.
If you met the girl (probably has a penis?) below, I can tell you from a glance that she will be highly likely to support gaza (and probably protest and cant actually explain why). She will be a remainer, vote labour (your liberal party) and love the likes of pakistani sadiq khan of london. She will also be very socialist, love any cause that is anti capitalist, anti british, and wants oen borders. She will love marxst and green anything. And agrees with net zero.

I shoudnt be able to tell this from a pic, but I would be approx 90% + correct. This is their uniform. If theres somene blocking a road for net zero anti oil, or wrecking a peice of art with pain, they always look like this.

So in this country I can tell you all this by one look at them. Londonistan is ram packed full of these and is highly socialist and so self destructive. London doesent represent the rest of the country. Its already fallen and too late.