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AGM mini fuse block with lever nuts

Postby slomobile » 31 Jan 2024, 00:44

AGM mini fuse block with lever nuts

Do they exist? My google fu seems to be on the fritz. I'm looking for one to add circuits to my chair.
I picked up some of these manual resetting circuit breakers https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CMT3L2ZZ which I would like to use in place of regular fuses. They are taller than the regular mini fuses so the fuse block cover would need to accommodate them.

I'm trying to avoid crimp on connectors except for the one big input ring terminal.
I've been using these lever nuts https://www.amazon.com/Zorhsgee-Transpa ... B09B1QW1FB to distribute 5v power and ground from a DC-DC regulator to various stuff and I like them. Want something similar for 24v properly fused, or broken, breaken, breakered?

And I want to add a circuit with no tools other than what is needed to strip the wire.
Like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0C72GYF9R/ but for AGM mini fuses, and with lever nuts built in instead of screw compression terminals.
Or even something prewired if it is nice like this https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BM9WFJKL but tall enough to fit the manual reset breakers.
or https://www.amazon.com/Blue-Sea-Systems ... B00WM2MWQ4 but mini, and taller, and with wago, lever nuts, or weidmuler type terminals.
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Re: AGM mini fuse block with lever nuts

Postby martin007 » 31 Jan 2024, 21:12

Does your powerchair have no fuses by default?
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Re: AGM mini fuse block with lever nuts

Postby Burgerman » 31 Jan 2024, 22:57

Powerchairs mostly have just a main power fuse between 100 and 150A which are good for intermittent loads of double that on a rehab chair, and the low power stuff such as actuators are current limited instead by programming (user and max limit 12A/15A on r-net for e.g) in the seating module. Dont know what permobils do. Probably big old style fuses.

But he wants to limit current to protect wiring on an external bus for 5v items or small 12v / 24v items individually. Or the main fuse wont blow but the wiring will... I might just add self resetting polyfuses in the loom under heatshrink for space reasons.
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Re: AGM mini fuse block with lever nuts

Postby martin007 » 31 Jan 2024, 23:08

Burgerman wrote:But he wants to limit current to protect wiring on an external bus for 5v items or small 12v / 24v items individually.



If he has modified the original wiring structure...
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Re: AGM mini fuse block with lever nuts

Postby slomobile » 01 Feb 2024, 03:09

I already have extra wiring for a set of motorcycle lights and a computer directly to the batteries so they can be on when the chair is off. 5v 10A DC-DC supply plugged into the ICS bus so it turns off whenever the chair is off. I want to add a 13.8v supply for a relay board. Its getting a bit absurd, so I want to rewire and consolidate the accessory power into one place where I can troubleshoot without removing any panels.

Permobil has a big breaker on the link that connects the 2 batteries together, so when that is off, everything is off including all the stuff added directly to the batteries because + is on one battery and - on the other. I'm not too concerned about upgrading the link wiring because that wire is already sized for that breaker and it has never popped. Id rather have individual breakers pop to help me track down where the fault is.

Oh, all of the Permobil actuators and the entire ICS bus are protected by a single 20A ATC fuse in the master module. I managed to plug an actuator in backwards once and blow it. Reversed connector, replaced fuse and everything was fine.
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Re: AGM mini fuse block with lever nuts

Postby Burgerman » 01 Feb 2024, 03:27

Whats an "ics bus"?
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Re: AGM mini fuse block with lever nuts

Postby slomobile » 11 Mar 2024, 02:55

ICS bus is the 3 wire LIN bus that the Permobil ICS system runs on. It includes all actuators, the Master module, and the ICS switchbox.
B+ red, LIN brown, B- black.
There is usually one passive hub(Multi-Link-Connector) with a bunch of places to plug stuff in, or you can just plug things into the extra ports on the master module if there are only a couple.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Permobil-Junct ... 3196714534
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