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Seen in a shop today...

PostPosted: 25 Oct 2025, 15:21
by Scooterman
At least they had thought about wheelchair users, but couldn't see the point leaving narrow steps in middle, not much use to an adult, maybe a toddler.

Re: Seen in a shop today...

PostPosted: 28 Oct 2025, 02:42
by ex-Gooserider
Cute, proves some architects don't really think that well... I wonder what happens if a person in a chair hits that ramp on an angle and drops a wheel onto the steps? hanged

ex-Gooserider

Re: Seen in a shop today...

PostPosted: 30 Oct 2025, 12:33
by Scooterman
If a wheelchair user has the ability to hold onto both moving handrails I don't see how it would be a problem.

Re: Seen in a shop today...

PostPosted: 30 Oct 2025, 12:37
by Burgerman
No problem to me I would drive straight up that. But the strength of the thing might not be adequate for a 110kg user on a 190kg chair... Its a conveyor belt under that floor.

Re: Seen in a shop today...

PostPosted: 30 Oct 2025, 17:41
by martin007
I've seen similar things.
It's the result of a solution devised by someone without mobility problems and little experience.

P.S. The average IQ is declining very rapidly.

Re: Seen in a shop today...

PostPosted: 30 Oct 2025, 19:17
by Burgerman
I think average IQ is 100 by definition. And is actually increasing very slowly over the decades. However education sucks. The left destroyed both the education system and the ideology and now we have a world full of idealistic garbage, lawlessness and laziness because them rich folk will pay for it all...

Re: Seen in a shop today...

PostPosted: 30 Oct 2025, 19:47
by Scooterman
And according to the sign fully loaded shopping/grocery trollies/carts which haven’t any brakes are fine.

Re: Seen in a shop today...

PostPosted: 04 Nov 2025, 02:39
by ex-Gooserider
To my eye, that looks like about the ADA 1:12 pitch, so if you can do a manual ramp, I don't know why you couldn't do it in a chair, even w/o holding on (just ride on it while keeping the chair still... I also didn't see a non-powered ramp, and the sign did NOT have directions for where to find one, or an elevator...

I suspect that mostly the prohibition is legal arse-covering, where if someone gets hurt they can say :ak47 "No lawsuits because we told you not to do that..."

It shouldn't have any problem with the weight of a chair and user either, as those things are supposed to be designed to still work when fully loaded w/ passengers plus a safety margin...

I know that I have done regular escalators in my manual wheelchair (and was taught how to do them by the folks in rehab....)

ex-Gooserider

Re: Seen in a shop today...

PostPosted: 06 Nov 2025, 01:00
by biscuit
I think the ramp in Scooterman's first picture is for clothing rails, not mobility access.