shirley_hkg wrote:
I really wish you were right , but sadly it itsn't.
The other PL8 shows the right things.
https://www.wheelchairdriver.com/board/ ... 52#p182252
shirley_hkg wrote:
I set the charge volt a bit lower and raised it to 3.6V when it is partially balanced, to avoid prolonged exposure to over voltage of the high cells .
My PL8 cannot read cells 2&3 correctly. They should read as the average of their own.
Glad to have alternatives , when PL8 is impossible.
Burgerman wrote:YES
Burgerman wrote:I am using this to charge at 40A.
https://www.wheelchairdriver.com/BM3-co ... DCABLE.jpg
And the other half on the chair.
Burgerman wrote:If they have bare ends, fuse them. Or you will pull them out and forget. Or they will get pulled by mistake and theres a battery on the other end...
LROBBINS wrote:Instead of a fuse I'd just use some GOOP to glue the banana plugs to the charger. You won't easily pull them out, but if you need to it's not hard to peel off.
LROBBINS wrote:That's one of many very similar formulations. I prefer the industrial formulation E6000 (has a different solvent) from the same mfr, but there's really very little difference once the solvent's evaporated. Of late I've been buying a Chinese copy, six large tubes every 6 mos. or so.
Burgerman wrote:I do it all the time. Not how he does it. That will result in dry joints. Tin wires, use flux, then Fill with solder. Push wire in while you heat.
Burgerman wrote:Soldering is definitely fast if you do it right. Seconds. If its taking longer then its already too late/too hot, oxidised and a fail. Crimping first just makes it easy as it holds wires in position. But sometimes I dont bother. Crimping alone is definitely useless. Most of the time. Esp on larger connectors and for different electrical reasons on balance wires.
You can learn to solder small stuff with a good iron, right flux for the job, and the right solder in mins. Clean unoxidised surfaces, correct temp say thermostatic 350C iron, and 3 or 4 goes on scrap and you are done. Practice all day. Bigger connectors like andersons same thing. But with a turbo lighter.
fishinjunky wrote:Burgerman wrote:I am using this to charge at 40A.
https://www.wheelchairdriver.com/BM3-co ... DCABLE.jpg
And the other half on the chair.
I don't think I'm going to fuse the charge cable. I plan on leaving the 4mm plugs always plugged into the iCharger and just connect and disconnect at the sb50 connector.
I have my db9 balance cables separate from my charge cable with sb50 connectors
by doing that be sure you'll burn your 4010duo.
ou must follow the exact procedure mentionned in the user manuel
you must follow the exact procedure mentionned in the user manuelo
i know and use this charger since a decade so i think i can say i know it well or very well. IT's a fantastic charger mucho more than PL8 for example or other brande, very stong with 10 cells capacity but if you don't care it could be ''dangerous'' too
fishinjunky wrote:After reading the manual I think it will only allow the discharge voltage to be set down to 3.0v but I'm not sure
Wavedy2 wrote:fishinjunky wrote:Burgerman wrote:I am using this to charge at 40A.
https://www.wheelchairdriver.com/BM3-co ... DCABLE.jpg
And the other half on the chair.
I don't think I'm going to fuse the charge cable. I plan on leaving the 4mm plugs always plugged into the iCharger and just connect and disconnect at the sb50 connector.
I have my db9 balance cables separate from my charge cable with sb50 connectors
by doing that be sure you'll burn your 4010duo.
you must follow the exact procedure mentionned in the user manuelo
i know and use this charger since a decade so i think i can say i know it well or very well. IT's a fantastic charger mucho more than PL8 for example or other brande, very stong with 10 cells capacity but if you don't care it could be ''dangerous'' too
Wavedy2 wrote:i well know PL8 too. check the user manual it's the same way or viry similar to connect it
you can;t say 4010 is fragile or you never used it to say that. also who is still alive ??? PL8 or 4010
you can't say that about 4010 as i can't say PL8 is not god just 4010 is stronger but (as for many equipment) you must folow wome rules
to close this, why do i use 4010 instead of PL8 ? why do I and many guys too ?
because of the 10 cells capacity of the 4010 !
difficult to campare a Twingo and a RR V8 ....
ciao !
Wavedy2 wrote:fishinjunky wrote:After reading the manual I think it will only allow the discharge voltage to be set down to 3.0v but I'm not sure
no ! for life it is 2 volts
ciao !
Burgerman wrote:by doing that be sure you'll burn your 4010duo.ou must follow the exact procedure mentionned in the user manuel
Because its electrically fragile. Correct sequence matters or smoke. Not so with the PL8, it is not important what order you connect everything. Because its electrically far more well designed.
Fuse?
The fuse is for the battery charge cable protection and the charger cant tell if it fused or not.
Although the ichargers are much more electrically fragile than the PL8. For e.g the ichargers can be damaged by connecting a battery first instead of the supply. Sometimes by connecting the power/balance in the wrong order. They even include a warnng on the website that warranty is void if used for non hobby sized packs. Because with heavy use they are much less reliable than the PL8 is... And too many warranty problems. The PL8 does not suffer from these issues.
And they also cant do all the graphing, configuration detail etc by PC etc that the PL8 allows. Also they cant allow you to set a termination current in any sensible way. Only by way of a percentage of charge current. Yes a iCharger will work. But its certaily not superior to the now discontnued PL8 in a bunch of ways.you must follow the exact procedure mentionned in the user manuelo
i know and use this charger since a decade so i think i can say i know it well or very well. IT's a fantastic charger mucho more than PL8 for example or other brande, very stong with 10 cells capacity but if you don't care it could be ''dangerous'' too
In what way? Because the charger doesent use intrinsically safe connectors (like the PL8 does) then you should fuse the cables. Because they may have a battery at the other end and the unsafe 4mm connectors can be shorted together and thousands of amps may flow destroying the charge cables. On a PL8 with proper safe connectors, that cannot happen.
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