PINNED - Info on PROGRAMMING PGDT and others

[Burgerman]

Theres many types. What are you programming?

[11ydy]

Theres many types. What are you programming?

I need Mobility Programmer_OEM_Std_14_6_0 Thank you


Programming VR2

[Burgerman]

See PM.

[Darrell_LeRoy]

Well, partial success. I added the 47K resistor to my cable, plugged it into my chair, turned on the chair, loaded the program (Mobility Std 14.06.0 OEM), and the comms went active finally.
Now the problem is that I can't change the turn acceleration above 80. I can't make the recommended changes to the chair settings.
Do I need higher-level programming software?

[woodygb]

check your messages

[Darrell_LeRoy]

Why do I get this message and how can I bypass it and set acceleration higher?

[rover220]

Program.jpg

Why do I get this message and how can I bypass it and set acceleration higher?

Further down the page should be oem factory settings iirc, check what they are set at.

[Darrell_LeRoy]

I don't find any OEM Factory Settings.
How do I find them?
My chair is a Jazzy 1121 and I am using Mobility Programmer OEM Std 14.06.0

[Darrell_LeRoy]

I was using the wrong program. I was using Mobility OEM Std 14.6.0. I should have been using Mobility Programmer Man Std 14.4.3.
Now I have all of the settings.

[miniman]

Hey all,

Just stumbled on this fantastic resource. Wish I'd found it years ago to be honest when I made some project items using wheelchair motors.

Currently I'm trying to program a PG controls s-drive to make a used controller compatible with my partners Mobilty Scooter (a monarch mantis which is branded as other names by other companies)

I'm confident I can make the cable, my background is electronics but at the moment I'm struggling to find the correct software, or a programming API or similar so I can code my own.

I see that maybe some pointers are available from this thread, is anyone able to help me out?

Thanks..

[woodygb]

Check your P.M.

[miniman]

Just for info, in case it helps anyone...

Talking to a S-Drive

Used a cheap USB/TTL converter from ebay
"FTDI USB to TTL Serial Converter Adapter FT232RL Module 5V and 3.3V Arduino ARM"

Cost me a whole 3.10 GBP

Already had a 47k resistor and 1N5711 Diode

Wired as per previous images, set to a 5V signal (via jumper on the converter)

The only Issue I had is that being a scooter it didn't have the molex connector fully wired (and I was connecting via the XLR as I had a spare plug for it). I bridged pins 3&4 on the molex and all worked fine.

Does anyone know if there Is there any reason I shouldn't permanently bridge 3&4 on the Molex connector? or does that put it into some form of programming mode?

[woodygb]

There should be no problem in leaving the pins bridged.

[11ydy]

Ask for help I encountered an unstable programming software connection after connecting some VR2 controllers to the computer. Where is the problem? It cannot be solved by replacing the resistor with a different resistance value.

https://youtu.be/W5CYuZFDoFI

[YouTube]https://youtu.be/W5CYuZFDoFI[/YouTube]

[woodygb]

Ask for help I encountered an unstable programming software connection after connecting some VR2 controllers to the computer. Where is the problem? It cannot be solved by replacing the resistor with a different resistance value.

https://youtu.be/W5CYuZFDoFI

[YouTube]https://youtu.be/W5CYuZFDoFI[/YouTube]

I recommend a 47k resistor.

What USB lead /adapter are you using and have you tried a Schottky diode?

[izzy84075]

I've recently come into ownership of a Hoveround MPV5 with a VSI controller that seems to have been programmed oddly, and I'm looking to get it into a more usable state. I believe I have the programming cable made correctly, but I'm now in need of the software. Would somebody be able to hook me up?

[woodygb]

Check your messages.

[EricSJ]

Hi, I am a newbie to Forums so please forgive me if this is wrong in any way.
I have recently obtained a used Pride Apex Rapid mobility scooter with a PGDT S Drive D51270.06 controller which I think may need reprogramming
I have assembled the necessary leads as kindly described on this forum, but I don't have the software to proceed, can you point me in the right direction.
I believe that pin 4 of the molex plug is assigned to inhibit, will this have any effect on the connecting of the programming cable. Thanks in anticipation.

[woodygb]

The programming cable connection to the inhibit pin is required.

[EricSJ]

Thanks WoodyGB for that confirmation of pin connection.
Very much appreciated. Thanks again.

[EricSJ]

Hi, Does anyone know if there is a full Schematic wiring Diagram for the Pride Apex Rapid mobility scooter 54LX out there for download. I've searched and searched but had no luck.

[woodygb]

I doubt that you will find one.... BUT the wiring is fairly universal.

What exactly is your problem ?

Note that an ON/OFF link is shown in this first pic .

[radredgreen]

I just got a used Pride Mobility Jazzy Jet with a PG Drives VSI Controller. It pulls badly to the right. I think I can build a cable but could use some help with the appropriate software. Thanks for the help and I love the forum.

[woodygb]

I just got a used Pride Mobility Jazzy Jet with a PG Drives VSI Controller. It pulls badly to the right.

Your description suggests that it is more than likely a mechanical problem , rather than a programming issue.

[radredgreen]

I thought so too but haven't turned up any mechanical issues. The tires seem to be inflated to the same level. I thought one of the motors or gear boxes might be dragging, but neither seem to get warm after several hundred yards of driving. When I put the joystick straight ahead it seems to make a full speed 10 ft diameter circle. I then move the joystick to about the 20 degree left, full forward position and it runs straight, but seems to slow down, maybe 60% of full speed - like the controller must think I'm turning. The other symptom I've noticed is that if I let go of the joystick from full forward motion, as it motor brakes it turns to the right maybe 30 to 45 degrees. Sitting still and spinning seem to turn left and right at roughly the same rotation rate without forward motion. I was concerned someone programmed the left/right trim way off. Are there any other mechanical things I can check? Thank you for your help.

[Burgerman]

That surely cant be progammed like that. Its got different speed motors each side or theres a brake not releasing or something.

[EricSJ]

Thanks for the drawings WoodyGB I was looking at the possibility of using the charging port as a programming port. On my Apex Rapid there is a green wire connected to pin 3 of the molex and I wondered where it is connected to. It joins the loom and connector to the tiller but without taking everything apart I can't identify that part of the circuit. I don't want to dismantle everything and so the request for a detailed circuit diagram. If one is not available then I will just continue using the molex plug direct. Thanks again.

[woodygb]

It is normal to have the programming pin connected to the pin 3 of the Charging Socket.... and YES , you can use it for programming.

You can see this on the right hand side of the pic.

Did you obtain the software?

[woodygb]

there is a green wire connected to pin 3 of the molex and I wondered where it is connected to.

Use a multimeter and perform a continuity test between the Molex Pin 3&4 and Pin 3 of the charging socket..

[radredgreen]

Its got different speed motors each side

You were exactly right. Now I know why it was so cheap. The left has a high speed motor (DRVMOTR1114) and the right has a high torque motor (DRVMOTR1119). Will any amount of VSI programming trim correct for this? I'm going to use this as a robotics platform using ardurover, so I'm not too concerned about the user experience. I was planning to tap into the joystick ribbon cable. Ardurover can probably correct for the wheel speed /steering error, but I'd like to give it a better starting point. Can some one point me to a link to the appropriate version of the programming software? Any other suggestions?

Thank you!