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Pride Fusion Power Chair Info

Posted:
06 Jan 2015, 09:43
by terry2
Sorry to be a pain in the ass people, but at the moment I just can't concentrate.
I want some new tyres(black) and I think I've found the right ones but I'm not sure.
My rear tyre says 3,00 X8 and the manual says "35.5 cm (14”) (pneumatic)"
The front tyre says 2.80/2.50-4 the manual says "23 cm (9”) solid (front)"
Are these ok for the rear
http://www.mobilitysmart.cc/impac-pneum ... is306.htmland front
http://www.mobilitysmart.cc/impac-pneum ... -4225.htmlI know I will have to buy inner tubes for the front, but will the ones I have be ok for the rear?
Again I apologise for being a bit dumb.
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Posted:
06 Jan 2015, 10:23
by greybeard
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Posted:
06 Jan 2015, 10:50
by terry2
Thank you very much. I'll get my carer to order them today. No more WHITE tyres

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Posted:
06 Jan 2015, 12:24
by greybeard
Just be aware that black tyres may slightly mark any carpets when they're wet/damp. It cleans off easily though, however, because of this, I've just changed the other way - from black to grey!
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Posted:
06 Jan 2015, 14:28
by Burgerman
Been using black for 17 years. There's no marks in my house. Because my entrance hallway carpet is quite long and (carefully chosen) black... As I come in this dries my tyres.
Kitchen grey tiles. It leaved tyre marks from back garden if wet but so does grey. Mostly muck. Mops up once a week as new. Other rooms grey or dark colours as they do leave some dark colouring over time. But again only if tyres or carpet are damp/wet.
I also keep a hose (reel) connected so that down the side of my house I can blast all the salt, black road crap or mud /dog shit etc off as needed. Quick blast with a hose and then up the street and back to dry off the water...
http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images- ... /tiled.jpg grey tiles. Because I am organised! I wanted grey because of wheelchair muck. Nothing fancy, cheap disabled accessible kitchen and everything easy clean. Walls removed to make space! You gotta be organised.
http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images- ... -dirty.jpg needs a shine, dirty 2 weeks... Quick mop, and a carer with a towel and shuffle about using feet and it shines again.
http://www.wheelchairdriver.com/images- ... carpet.jpgBlack/grey carpet, same reasons... 7 years old.
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Posted:
06 Jan 2015, 17:49
by greybeard
I had a new pale mud coloured carpet that is a good match for our local sandy soil that the dogs can't mess up too much, throughout the house just weeks before I had to start using a chair. It's still too good to replace and I don't have the cash anyway, so the cheapest option was to go grey on the powerchair tyres. They don't look as nice as black though but, for me, they're more practical at the moment.
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Posted:
06 Jan 2015, 20:33
by terry2
I've got black carpet and grey kitchen floor tiles so all is ok

Just spent a good part of a £100

But it's got to be worth it. Thanks for your help guys.
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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 09:58
by terry2
My new tyres have just come. But they're both 1-1.5 inches taller then what I have on now. And the back one is thinner.
We this cause a problem with torque\speed? I'm feeling useless at the moment

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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 10:16
by Burgerman
Are you sure its not because they are deflated and squashed?
Because the sizes are correct.
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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 10:35
by terry2
Burgerman wrote:Are you sure its not because they are deflated and squashed?
Because the sizes are correct.
It could be BM. I've going to a tyre garage because I haven't the tools for the back tyres.
They want £10 a tyre to change them. Fook that. Going to buy a socket set at £10

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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 11:38
by terry2
My mate put a front tyre on and it's to wide, scrapping on the side

and a good inch taller.
Back to the drawing board.
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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 11:52
by terry2
Picture of them together.
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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 12:27
by terry2
Can anyone suggest what front tyres I need and where I can buy them from.
Not looking forward to trying to fit the back tyres.
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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 12:57
by hank
Try
www.petrolscooter.co.uk Tarmac tyre 3.00-4
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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 14:13
by terry2
The black one in the picture is a 3.00-4 mate
http://www.mobilitysmart.cc/impac-pneum ... -4225.htmlAnd the back tire doesn't fit either

it's to high and hits the mud\rain guard.
Looks like I've got to stick to light color tyres. And close on £100 down the drain. Oh well you live and learn.
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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 15:30
by Burgerman
Black tyre is 3.00 x 4 as your first post said was correct. That's a 3 x 4 tyre.
The grey tyres are 2.50 x 4 -- which is 2.5 inch x 4.
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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 15:42
by terry2
Burgerman wrote:Black tyre is 3.00 x 4 as your first post said was correct. That's a 3 x 4 tyre.
The grey tyres are 2.50 x 4 -- which is 2.5 inch x 4.
I did put "2.80/2.50-4 the manual says "23 cm (9”) solid (front)"

no matter they can go in the bin.
But why the back one won't fit is beyond me. Looks like another one for the bin

oh god I hate power chairs.
They should change the name power chair to boat, which means Bring Out Another Thousand
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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 16:17
by calabash
Not sure what chair you have but mine is a groove, I just took off the mudgards to fit the back ones.
Sure someone on here will buy the front ones off of you.
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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 16:25
by tnt
Supplier may exchange--Impac15309---MS22342 at £9.75--250x4 ? .tread pattern different,but worth a try!
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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 16:38
by greybeard
Don't bin them. eBay them.
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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 16:39
by Sully
If you have your heart set on the "black" tires then maybe you should consider making the accomodations necessary to use them. You're front tires caster forks will need made to fit the tires you think you want to use. The back angle also might have to be made to accomodate the motor length. Check on that because if will be higher it will be equally larger in all directions, make sure what ever you do accomodates everything in its swing diameter.
Your drive wheels "sounds" a bit easier. The difference in speed will be minimal but traction "I think" will be better, especially off the Tarmac or concrete, if this is something you want to do. Will they rub on the back side because of any added width or if they become underinflated. A shim similar to what the Burgerman has might become necessary. This will add to the overall width of your chair. You have to decide on that. The fenders probably can be adjusted or simply eliminated again tha'ts your decision/
Power wheel chairs are constructed to make ANY home grown modifications difficult, if not impossible without taking many other things into consideration.. You are restricted to using the more expensive grey wheelchair tires, they obviously have made them in fractions of normal sizes, so you run into this sort of grief no matter what your desires are.
Are these things stuff that is worth your efforts, to fill your desire to modify your ride? I think the rear tires will soften your ride. The added diameter to the front should make going over some objects easier. The marking of floors is a small issue except for the misses, and overall you make your ride better. But it is your choice. Perhaps you are comfortable with what you have otherwise.
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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 16:42
by terry2
Thanks guys for your help.
@tnt I will order them MS22342 tomorrow and inner tubes. Thanks dude.
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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 16:48
by terry2
Sully wrote:If you have your heart set on the "black" tires then maybe you should consider making the accomodations necessary to use them. You're front tires caster forks will need made to fit the tires you think you want to use. The back angle also might have to be made to accomodate the motor length. Check on that because if will be higher it will be equally larger in all directions, make sure what ever you do accomodates everything in its swing diameter.
Your drive wheels "sounds" a bit easier. The difference in speed will be minimal but traction "I think" will be better, especially off the Tarmac or concrete, if this is something you want to do. Will they rub on the back side because of any added width or if they become underinflated. A shim similar to what the Burgerman has might become necessary. This will add to the overall width of your chair. You have to decide on that. The fenders probably can be adjusted or simply eliminated again tha'ts your decision/
Power wheel chairs are constructed to make ANY home grown modifications difficult, if not impossible without taking many other things into consideration.. You are restricted to using the more expensive grey wheelchair tires, they obviously have made them in fractions of normal sizes, so you run into this sort of grief no matter what your desires are.
Are these things stuff that is worth your efforts, to fill your desire to modify your ride? I think the rear tires will soften your ride. The added diameter to the front should make going over some objects easier. The marking of floors is a small issue except for the misses, and overall you make your ride better. But it is your choice. Perhaps you are comfortable with what you have otherwise.
Thanks sully. Mug guard off it is then

I've got a pride(spit) Fusion. In every other country you can update the motors and have lights. But NOT in the UK

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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 17:02
by terry2
I've already bought these inner tubes
http://www.mobilitysmart.cc/inner-tube- ... -x-85.htmlwill they fit these tyres I'm about to order? Sorry about all this guys.
I'm going to write an email to Richard Branson to see if he want in on power chairs.
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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 17:16
by Sully
Quote;"I've got a pride(spit) Fusion. In every other country you can update the motors and have lights. But NOT in the UK."
Is that Brit Law, or rules of your National Health insurance, that paid for your chair? Noone could have ever updated a power chair more than the Burgerman so there is some flaw to your blanket statement. Or have you missed some qualification to it?
In the States you can modify just about anything to suit yourself. But on some occasions you run afowl of the law, like the clean air act which has nothing to do with power wheelchairs. But more often you run afowl of the Warantee conditions when you purchase the item, that misrepresents the law, but it does legally nullify the warantees.
I know nothing about the Fusion !
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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 17:16
by calabash
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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 17:28
by terry2
Sully wrote:Quote;"I've got a pride(spit) Fusion. In every other country you can update the motors and have lights. But NOT in the UK."
Is that Brit Law, or rules of your National Health insurance, that paid for your chair? Noone could have ever updated a power chair more than the Burgerman so there is some flaw to your blanket statement. Or have you missed some qualification to it?
In the States you can modify just about anything to suit yourself. But on some occasions you run afowl of the law, like the clean air act which has nothing to do with power wheelchairs. But more often you run afowl of the Warantee conditions when you purchase the item, that misrepresents the law, but it does legally nullify the warantees.
I know nothing about the Fusion !
Not a law but if you want a chair to do 8mph, then have a BIG bank account as they are £5,000+ I've seen them for £10,000
I paid for my power chair out of my own money £1,700. I lived in Florida for some years(gulf coast). I miss the sun

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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 19:17
by Burgerman
Mine cost me about 2.5k and goes 16mph for 45 miles or so...
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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 22:58
by terry2
Burgerman wrote:Mine cost me about 2.5k and goes 16mph for 45 miles or so...
Told you I want first dibs on that chair when you come to make a new one

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Posted:
12 Jan 2015, 23:41
by Burgerman
you wont want it after I finished with it...