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Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby Burgerman » 30 Nov 2017, 21:11

Ordering a cross between a Jive R2 and a Salsa R2 with power everything. Mostly 90% salsa. Same thing pretty much with only seating and 8mph option that I dont want as a difference. If you want to have a more rearward CG the Salsa with canvas plain back is better. And an aftermarket back added later.

Some BUILT FOR ME options...
Some tech not available option not on the forms but they are if you insist.

Power centre footrest (will need reduction in size probably to allow seat to move back)
Power recline but with canvas back (to allow sitting further back to aid CG) for now, then replac sling with http://www.medicaleshop.com/comfort-com ... -back.html
Power tilt with 6 degree start, +30 tilt on top of the 6 starting position.
Power lift.

4 pole 6mph motors for adequate torque, better range. Esp if I fit wider slightly bigger wheels and tyres.

Single vertical arms, - no flimsy lift up... Stronger.
Black - not available stock but it got to be black.
grp 24 batts, soon to be lithium
Rnet newest colour controller and 120A power module as per 8mph for torque.
Sensible price...
Should do for washing van and pressure sore fixing!
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby hank » 30 Nov 2017, 21:40

Hope this time everything works out for you John
You deserve a bit of good luck. :thumbup: :dance
Sounds a good spec.
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby Burgerman » 30 Nov 2017, 22:10

Its only for say 2 days a week. But it would be nice if it actually works!
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby hank » 30 Nov 2017, 22:18

Shouldnt be a problem with delays on this one.
With your knowledge be a walk in the park. :dance :clap
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby Burgerman » 30 Nov 2017, 22:35

First I got to do this with the seating.

Before
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After
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Or it will be hopeless...
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby hank » 30 Nov 2017, 22:58

Done same with my groove brushless build
Have you got to swap front forks to take 4 inch wheels.
Or is that pic just a demo one.
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby Burgerman » 30 Nov 2017, 23:07

It comes with 4 inch rims, both jive/salsa?
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby hank » 30 Nov 2017, 23:13

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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby shirley_hkg » 01 Dec 2017, 00:33

With steel frame , not aluminium , I recall .
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby Burgerman » 01 Dec 2017, 00:49

Yep.
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby Burgerman » 01 Dec 2017, 03:04

Of course it wont be 10kph. 6.2mph. It will have the extra 3 volts of lithium, turned up in programming from 22V max to 25.5 to match, and will likely end up with 120/60-8 tyres on tubeless rims. Which are bigger diameter. So about 12 or 13kph but without the loss of torque due to gearing that the 8mph motors give. So about 8mph AND torque.
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby Burgerman » 04 Dec 2017, 21:03

It will have godawful grey tyres. So I will be fitting some black ones.

Rear wheels will be tubeless 3.50 x 8 alloys supplied via Shirley, since he offered at a very good price!
Stock rims will be thrown away, complete with stock 3.00 x 8 inch tyres. Stock width is 24.44 inches.
I intend to fit much wider 120/70 - 8 tyres, on wider rims. Overall diameter is .6 inch greater. That will mean a gain of 88mm in total with. 3.4 inches. So it will end up 27.9 wide, or tha same as an X5/V6. Except I can space the tyres in slightly as clearances allow, and gain a little probably. But it will then be tubeless, have better ride, and look better too! I cant help myself. I was going to leave it stock. Then a lithium pack of course.
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby Burgerman » 04 Dec 2017, 21:10

Image

These. Wheels in stock. Tyres ordered. Programmer Rnet OEM aquirred...
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby hank » 04 Dec 2017, 21:45

Mine on Groove with brushless motors John with 110/80-8 tyres
3.5 inch wide rims measure just under 28 inches max width.

So your about right with 120 tyres. Cant remember now a std width of
a groove R.
Yours might be narrower std.
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby Burgerman » 04 Dec 2017, 21:46

Same. Salsa, Jive, are Grooves... Its all just fashion and options and marketing! Except your motors will change that.

I wanted to not pay for fancy comfort seating that positions me too far forwards and makes CG position needed impossible. And didnt want 8mph. So ordered Salsa with some jive options, 4 pole, 120A, black, centre footplate, and single post arms, with the "mini" versions arm/controller swingaway, positioning built inwards to get correct joystick and arm top positioning. And a sling back and ugly scafolding headrest! To be thrown away. And replaced with something prettier and more comfortable that doesent push me forwards! Then bin the battery, tyres, rims, and reprogram. Thats the plan...
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby hank » 04 Dec 2017, 21:51

Correct Yeap spaced them as tight as possible as they are
close to sides of frame not like on F55 frames.
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby Burgerman » 04 Dec 2017, 21:55

Pics?
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby hank » 04 Dec 2017, 22:00

Only got the ones on my post.
Will get some more tommorow for you if it helps you
to get the idea.
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby elryko1992 » 04 Dec 2017, 23:00

Yes Hank make some pics :D
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby Burgerman » 04 Dec 2017, 23:06

Only got the ones on my post.


Where?
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby Burgerman » 06 Dec 2017, 18:12

Couldnt get the Duro tyres, out of stock... So now have a similar construction, 120/70-8 tubeless set of these. Thats same 14.3 diameter, 5 inches wide, 4 ply, tubeless and so very stiff/strong construction and so no worries about punctures and long service life:
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby hank » 06 Dec 2017, 18:14

Nice tyre :clap
at least you can buy fronts same make to match :dance
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby Burgerman » 06 Dec 2017, 18:25

On a pair of these wide 8 x 3.5 inch tubeless alloy rims. I bought 4 of them, at about £10 each via Shirley.

Where do I get matching fronts again? :cussing
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby hank » 06 Dec 2017, 18:32

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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby Burgerman » 06 Dec 2017, 19:13

Ordered :thumbup:
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby Burgerman » 06 Dec 2017, 19:15

Now I got the stupid wheel adapter/spacer thing to make again! hanged

And lithium all over... And a back/headrest.
And make smaller footplate.
And 1000 bolts to swap for stainless, and then find matching front casters!
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby hank » 06 Dec 2017, 19:30

I wonder if groove Amt hubs are same fitting. If so you have a hole centre to work with
If you mean alloy castor forks use groove ones. Like on my groove/brushless
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby hank » 06 Dec 2017, 20:42

hank wrote:I wonder if groove Amt hubs are same fitting. If so you have a hole centre to work with
If you mean alloy castor forks use groove ones. Like on my groove/brushless

Castor wheels. trampaboards.com
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Re: Jive/Salsa R2 mixture

Postby shirley_hkg » 07 Dec 2017, 02:45

Burgerman wrote:On a pair of these wide 8 x 3.5 inch tubeless alloy rims. I bought 4 of them, at about £10 each via Shirley.

YOU may love these mud guards . cheers
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